It’s really terrible but toxic fans don’t cause schizophrenia. That said, fans were not kind.
John Boyega implies Kelly Marie Tran was "not mentally strong" for how she dealt with fans (update: response and apology, see threadmark)
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Oh did you miss the GAF threads after the Charlie Rose interview when TFA came out? George was the first one in.
Yea the off-topic forum here is very very toxic. Gotta try to avoid here and Twitter.
Guess people are just taking the narrative in that tweet and running with it.
This should apply for every thread here. Thanks for describing my thoughts.
Essentially being a minority means people generally won't care about your feelings enough to do anything. Look at the number of people who defend blackface every time it comes up, or the constant micro-aggressions / "casual" racism that makes up a lot of minority experience. "Man-up" might be a clunky way of saying it, but you do eventually have to sort of compartmentalize a lot of stuff.
Now, In the case of KMT I'm not sure how much compartmentalizing one can do in the face of a harassment campaign.
He’s a black man, who was the face of the Star Wars revival and the first full face you saw in the reveal trailer.
The amount of insane vitriol he faced as a “black stormtrooper” is seared into my mind. He knows more than anyone how crazy people wanted a n*gger like him out of their beloved franchise.
He’s clearly speaking from his own experience and lacked the foresight to see how the story would be contextualized in the current Star Wars climate.
Did he fuck up? Yea. Does he need to apologize/clarify his statements? Yea I think he should.
But this attempt to twist his answer as actively dunking on Tran is fcking stupid
I've still got the image of BB8 as a "cuck ball" and Rey's staff as a BBC in my mind.
first part of the quote (interviewer) references the good and bad of fandom (the bad uses Tran as a specific example).
Then moves to a new topic about negative fandoms and some people in these situations being weak minded (does not use specific example here). Then moves to example of strong minded person in the same or similar situation (and uses himself as a specific example).
edit: and for clarification because I know this will be brought up, the state of mind describes the persons “will” to actively read and believe all vitriol online about them as the quote states.
you could conclude both ways 1. That he was piggy-backing off this first mention of Tran to use a her as a reference for a weak minded person, or 2. That he excluded anyone in that example to show thoughtfulness (to not call out anyone). I think it’s more likely the second one as has been pointed out, he was one of the individuals to defend her against harassment. Also, the interviewer mentioned Tran, so if boyega wanted to specifically talk about her negatively he literally could have just mentioned her again in the next breath but didn’t. Of course he could’ve clarified in that moment as well and said “not talking about Tran here.” Either way we could get further clarification from boyega, but I’m just not seeing it. Poorly worded, and definitely less controversial than the daisy interview excerpts, but also she didn’t have malice so I don’t even know why the outrage was the way it was when education is an answer in that context, but I digress.
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None of that has anything to do with the dumb shit faceless was posting.
People conveniently forget the sheer magnitude of hatred John Boyega faced, when he joined Star Wars as a lead. He’s been so resilient so people think, “it probably wasn’t as bad as I remembered”.
It was worse than anything I’ve seen for any character.
Mods should close this thread. Some clickbait bullshit. And that person who tweeted it should be ashamed.
yeah for real what a weirdly insistent tone that thread had compared to this one. can't figure out exactly what the difference is here thoughI'd ask where all this condemnation was in that Daisy Ridley thread but I know what it is lol deuces.
honestly I really liked John before that article. His quotes in that article really rubbed me the wrong. As if he’s so much better than Pedro Pascal, Carl Weathers, and Giancarlo Esposito and he wouldn’t sully himself with something so far below him. I found it insulting. And I find these comments to be insulting and it just further proves what I thought about him after the previous article.
I mean you can tell a hell of a lot of members have been looking for a reason to snipe at him, some have said as much in this thread.I'd ask where all this condemnation was in that Daisy Ridley thread but I know what it is lol deuces.
ITT most people just look at title and post. Boyega didnt say anything like what the tweeter claims nor the TC. But so many people are jumping at him.
like take a minute to honestly think about it, even it we were to take this interview at face value why in the hell would someone who was one of the few people from the cast to even defend Kelly turn around and call her weak?? Literally just the smallest bit of common sense would tell you...that comment isn't directed at Kelly for godsakes. Y'all stay looking for something to jump on this dude's back for while none of his white co-stars get NEARLY the same treatment.
No. Hah. Even George huh.
Well, the night's still young. Maybe Mark Hamill will tweet about the most inspiring Hitler quote he's memorized.
He was already upset about Luke's direction in TLJ and people immediately brought up some bad ideas he had during RotJ as a reason for why Mark should "stick to acting" and let the professionals handle character building.
Not using it as bait against TLJ, I'm just saying that many already thought bad of him long before TROS.
The multiverse really needs to stop bleeding into each other like this.
All of the following are true:
1). Boyega has stuck up for Tran in the past, and himself has been the victim of harassment, including of the racist variety.
2). In all likelihood, he and Tran are on very friendly terms, and he has a deep respect for her.
3). In responding to a question about the double edged sword that is social media, which specifically invoked what happened to Tran (harassment leading to her leaving social media), Boyega leaned on a toxic framework separating mentally strong people from mentally weak people. That was misguided on multiple levels, including in the sense that he inadvertently implied Tran’s response to her harassment indicated weakness.
Why is it difficult to process all this? Why are #1 and #2 being used to discount #3, and vice versa, when these ideas aren’t mutually exclusive whatsoever?
At the very least, his wording was bad, and it would be nice for him to clarify. No one should “cancel” him, this is hardly strong evidence that Boyega is garbage, and hopefully this controversy will pass soon enough. But this was a rather unfortunate misstep, and it shouldn’t be hard to admit that.
I don’t get the feeling at all that he’s saying Kelly is mentally weak. But by the transitive property, he actually is implying it, and I don’t think that was his intention, and I’d assume he’d apologize for the implication. The amount these folks are forced to talk, something imperfect is bound to slip out. I’m not personally going to crucify him for this slight faux pas.
Hahaha god I love him, smart of him to start showing his range as an actor before this mess was over
Are you trying to cancel cancel?
Sorry sorry couldn't pass that opening up
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Nice job singling out Black People as the group that chucks out Racist commentary.
Surprised no actions been taken on this racist remark
Yeah, fuck John Boyega for this. Glad Finn got dealt a shitty hand in TLJ now.
Bonus “fuck you” for Pacific Rim: Uprising too.
Bonus “fuck you” for Pacific Rim: Uprising too.
Oh look, white person trying to start something up between two minorities. Who hasn't seen this before.
Sounds like the way men view their experience on social media as not feeling that threatened and apply it to how women react when they get death/rape/assault/etc threats in much greater numbers for doing so much as existing on the internet. Very stupid and ignorant thing to say about others' experiences.
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