Oh, yeah, I wasn't referring to this specifically, just the dudes that came in after the fact guffawing at the idea people would want representation. Dimaggio took the best step he could and demolished this loser.
... I don't doubt that at all in retrospect
kept smiling, too, I hope it was out of utter embarrassment
what does it mean for a question about a fictional character's sexuality in a narrative that doesn't deal with their sexuality to be "genuine"?this was a slight overreaction I think. What if it was a genuine question? Not like it may not be an important narrative point.
do we know it doesn't ? i didn't, for example.what does it mean for a question about a fictional character's sexuality in a narrative that doesn't deal with their sexuality to be "genuine"?
this was a slight overreaction I think. What if it was a genuine question? Not like it may not be an important narrative point.
This.Oh, yeah, I wasn't referring to this specifically, just the dudes that came in after the fact guffawing at the idea people would want representation. Dimaggio took the best step he could and demolished this loser.
In my head I'm imagining Jake the Dog saying all this.
Bless you, John DiMaggio.
"As someone who wants to see more representation in-game media, does Kate character identify as LGBTQ?" vs what that guy asked. The video is very telling.
In case there's any confusion, some of us talking about representation mattering are doing it in response to the people who say that this doesn't matter. The dude asking this question at the panel clearly doesn't actually care about representation.
It's Gears of War. It's a reasonably safe assumption that a character's sexual orientation isn't going to form a significant narrative thread and doesn't need to be asked about in a panel for nearly the same reasons it's unlikely to be a major plot point and doesn't need to be asked about at a Pokemon Sword and Shield event.
One of the biggest cutscenes in 2 was a character breaking down over losing his wife. BUt that doesn't count because its hetero and normal.It's Gears of War. It's a reasonably safe assumption that a character's sexual orientation isn't going to form a significant narrative thread and doesn't need to be asked about in a panel for nearly the same reasons it's unlikely to be a major plot point and doesn't need to be asked about at a Pokemon Sword and Shield event.
An argument could be made than having a first female protagonist gives the new game a tint of "progressiveness" which extent could be matter of interest.It's Gears of War. It's a reasonably safe assumption that a character's sexual orientation isn't going to form a significant narrative thread and doesn't need to be asked about in a panel for nearly the same reasons it's unlikely to be a major plot point and doesn't need to be asked about at a Pokemon Sword and Shield event.
Yeah you should chill the fuck out. It's not that serious, it's a damn video game. Your literally arguing against people that make the game, even they don't care. If they WANTED The story to focus on her sexuality or include it in some way, they would, but they didn't. I don't think she's going to be fucking any swarm dudes or females. Again, take a break off the internet and CALM YOUR ASS DOWN. Your acting like I'm saying there can't be any representation and devs shouldn't strive for it. Never said that, the dude that asked the question to the gears crew wasn't asking them because he "cared" so again for the final time, calm the fuck down. Honestly watch the vid again because I don't think you understood his answer. It's just not that type of story for Kait, I seen you brought up Dom. Well that's asnt the case for literally every other character, his backstory was rooted in that. Marcus was rooted in his fathers history and so on. Each character has different goals and ideals, coalition shouldn't bend over backwards to change a character for something they didn't already plan for. And if she IS gay or bi or whatever, then congrats, they'd tell you. I don't see why they'd hide it, but I honest to go belive that's just not isn't their plans as of now.Obviously not, jesus, but if I had no interest before and hear theres good gays in something, then it's immediatly put on my radar and likely buying it because I support that shit
No, fuck off
One of the biggest cutscenes in 2 was a character breaking down over losing his wife. BUt that doesn't count because its hetero and normal.
it kinda does - but we don't think of it as significant because heterosexual relationships are often seen as the 'norm'. zacmortar isn't arguing that the man asking the question in the video was doing so out of genuine concern about representation (they've clarified this in an earlier post) - there's just been more than a few replies in this thread that implies that representation in games like this is an unimportant topic.Well if that counts as sexual orientation being a significant part of the overall narrative and a "genuine thing we need to be asking about characters in all future panels" this dude skipped a step and forgot to ask if that character was straight or bi.
I'm sure that's a genuine oversight and he didn't have a specific agenda for specifically and only asking about Kait's sexuality 🤔
To be clear, I think representation is completely important. I also don't think it's helpful to conflate anything that happened here with representation issues because this guy was obviously completely full of shit and representation-positive attitudes had nothing to do with that question. It was a question driven by titillation and stereotypes about military womenit kinda does - but we don't think of it as significant because heterosexual relationships are often seen as the 'norm'. zacmortar isn't arguing that the man asking the question in the video was doing so out of genuine concern about representation - there's just been more than a few replies in this thread that implies that representation in general is unimportant.
Everyone was laughing because John said it in a funny way. If he had said it in a serious tone, I doubt people would've laughed.The fact that everyone was laughing really took away from what DiMaggio was saying. Made everything feel more like a joke when clearly it wasn't.
i know - and i think the few people arguing for representation in this thread aren't trying to claim that the question was asked in good faith (the poster you had quoted had already clarified as such in an earlier post). there were just some posts early on in the thread that suggested wanting to know if a character was lgbtq in general was silly.To be clear, I think representation is completely important. I also don't think it's helpful to conflate anything that happened here with representation issues because this guy was obviously completely full of shit and representation-positive attitudes had nothing to do with that question. It was a question driven by titillation and stereotypes about military women
This ^^
i know - and i think the few people arguing for representation in this thread aren't trying to claim that the question was asked in good faith (the poster you had quoted had already clarified as such in an earlier post). there were just some posts early on in the thread that suggested wanting to know if a character was lgbtq in general was silly.
How about both?Last post I swear...then im out for real for real.
But say Game X plays really well....but we have no indication of characters orientation. (like Kait, JD and Del)
Now say Game Y is horrible, utterly trash....but we know a number of characters orientation and it aligns with your preferences
Do you get Game Y over Game X?
My sexual orientation is in fact actually a large part of who i am, and many others. Sexuality doesnt define you but its still a large part of who we are.
We arent a "preference" or a choice.
Yeah, he's done some great roles. I love his Aquaman. Outrageous!!He's the voice of Marcus Phoenix? Had no idea, that's awesome 😆
this was a slight overreaction I think. What if it was a genuine question? Not like it may not be an important narrative point.
What the fuck does this even meanYeah but you can't judge for sexual preferences, you can judge about actions tho. Maybe sexuality defines you, but is not the case.
i'm not saying otherwise (although there's a large disparity between a character's favourite colour and their sexuality). and i know the guy wasn't being genuine.Asking it in this context is silly. Just like asking what Kait's favorite color is. It's silly. You can argue there is no harm in wanting to know but good lord why would you ask that in this situation.
Granted the guy was obviously trying to do some weird troll.
a lot of people DO judge others by their sexuality though, and often not fairly if they aren't straight - which i'd imagine contributes to the underrepresentation of lgbtq people in media.Yeah but you can't judge for sexual preferences, you can judge about actions tho. Maybe sexuality defines you, but is not the case.