Foreword:
(These posts contain some information on the manufacturing of drugs. There is enough information missing that I don't think there is anything you could really do with this info, but I'll put a warning up here just to be on the safe side.)
Awhile ago, I was talking with someone about the "Gringo" documentary about John McAfee and the gang/cult/drug operation he was running down in Belize. I remembered an old thread on the Joe Rogan message board from 2012, that happened before he turned himself in the police, and a lot of that information they found never really made it in the documentary. Apparently, sometime in the last year or so the Rogan message board closed down and all the posts were lost, but I found a backup copy I had saved on a old HD.
Anyway, I thought I would repost it for prosperity's sake. (I had to change the formatting a bit)
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This might be the craziest Bath Salt story you ever read. Warning: Long Post
The story begins when a man named, John McAffee goes to college, gets a degree and launches a handful of successful technology startup companies in the early 90's when the market was hot. One of those companies -McAffee Anti-Virus, eventually sells for roughly 100 million dollars and he is set for life.
He then "invents" a new "sport" which mostly involved rich white guys with way too much money and time on their hands flying high speed experimental aircraft very close to the ground. Not surprisingly, one of these old white rich guys dies doing this and the family decides to sue John for 5 million dollars.
John sells all of his US assets and moves to Belize, where they coincidentally do not recognize US law and anyone seeking any sort of compensation from John as a result of any US ruling will probably never see that money. Also, the age of consent in Belize is 16, so he wastes no time in shacking up with a girl 50 years younger than him.
So far, this is all a fairly normal "white guy problems" story. But this is where it gets weird.
Apparently, while in Belize John discovers something called, Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV) which happens to be the active ingredient in what is now commonly known as "bath salts" and he likes it. Sadly though, at some point the market shifts and the quality of commercially available MDPV deteriorates -so John sets out to make his own high grade MDPV.
That's right... he begins freebasing bath salts... the same shit that makes people eat your face off... he starts making the "crack" version of it. In his quest to make the ultimate face eating zombie powder, he begins posting on a drug forum asking for tips and advice.
Naturally, members of the forum are skeptical that he has found the Holy Grail of bath salts -especially, considering John freely admits that his freebase method is a bit sloppy, rudimentary, very time consuming and rarely produces the desired drug. Hence, his coming to the forum and asking for advice in the first place.
What do you do when you are a millionaire living in a third world country who has discovered a means to produce the ultimate sex drug and you have a harem of 17 year old girls addicted to it?
Buy better lab equipment and start passing the shit out like candy.
(These posts contain some information on the manufacturing of drugs. There is enough information missing that I don't think there is anything you could really do with this info, but I'll put a warning up here just to be on the safe side.)
Awhile ago, I was talking with someone about the "Gringo" documentary about John McAfee and the gang/cult/drug operation he was running down in Belize. I remembered an old thread on the Joe Rogan message board from 2012, that happened before he turned himself in the police, and a lot of that information they found never really made it in the documentary. Apparently, sometime in the last year or so the Rogan message board closed down and all the posts were lost, but I found a backup copy I had saved on a old HD.
Anyway, I thought I would repost it for prosperity's sake. (I had to change the formatting a bit)
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This might be the craziest Bath Salt story you ever read. Warning: Long Post
The story begins when a man named, John McAffee goes to college, gets a degree and launches a handful of successful technology startup companies in the early 90's when the market was hot. One of those companies -McAffee Anti-Virus, eventually sells for roughly 100 million dollars and he is set for life.
He then "invents" a new "sport" which mostly involved rich white guys with way too much money and time on their hands flying high speed experimental aircraft very close to the ground. Not surprisingly, one of these old white rich guys dies doing this and the family decides to sue John for 5 million dollars.
John sells all of his US assets and moves to Belize, where they coincidentally do not recognize US law and anyone seeking any sort of compensation from John as a result of any US ruling will probably never see that money. Also, the age of consent in Belize is 16, so he wastes no time in shacking up with a girl 50 years younger than him.
So far, this is all a fairly normal "white guy problems" story. But this is where it gets weird.
Apparently, while in Belize John discovers something called, Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV) which happens to be the active ingredient in what is now commonly known as "bath salts" and he likes it. Sadly though, at some point the market shifts and the quality of commercially available MDPV deteriorates -so John sets out to make his own high grade MDPV.
That's right... he begins freebasing bath salts... the same shit that makes people eat your face off... he starts making the "crack" version of it. In his quest to make the ultimate face eating zombie powder, he begins posting on a drug forum asking for tips and advice.
You see, somewhere along the way while John was trying to freebase bath salts he seems to have stumbled across an entirely new drug. At least, that's what he thinks. Every chemist and chemical company tells him what he has is still just plain old MDPV and that's not surprising -considering all he is doing is concentrating it, but he is convinced his freebase is still somehow "diifferent". Like the alchemists of old, he has magically transmuted the properties of the mundane to the truly divine... and by "divine" I mean after ingesting just 5mg of his magical bath salt zombie crack, he and his 17 year-old girlfriend had wild untamed monkey sex for 8 straight hours.Hello Everyone. I've been lurking here for years and just recently decided to join up. I'm hoping to get some help here.
I'm a huge fan of MDPV. Not the white hydrochloride - it's inconceivable that anyone on the planet would willingly put that into their bodies -- I'm talking the freebase form. I think many of you that don't bother to freebase it yourself have at least tasted the freebase version when it was widely available as "tan mdpv". I think it's the finest drug evere conceived, not just for the indescribable hypersexuality, but also for the smooth euphoria and mild comedown.
My question is this: How can I more easilly separate the oil from the precipitate using some mechanical means?
Here's the nightmarish process I've been going through so far:
First I precipitate and then place the container on a foot vibrator for 30 minutes to raise the first oil (the oil is heavier than water, by the way):
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Then I painstakingly touch each droplet with the point of a hyperdermic, which causes the oil to climb up the needle. Then I slowly extract the needle until the surface tension at the top allows the oil to float.
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I can only do a small amount at a time or else the oil collects into a ball large enough to sink again. I draw off the oil with a filed down needle point and then spend another 30 mitues of vibrating until the next batch rises. As I proceed, the droplets become smaller and smaller until they are barely visible. The complete extraction takes 5 to 6 hours.
For anyone who freebases mdpv, by the way -- the oil is dangerous beyond belief. When I first started doing this I accidently got a few drops on my fingers while handling a used flask and didn't sleep for 4 days. I had visual and auditory hallucinations and the worst paranoia of my life. It's all the bad aspects of white mdpv times a hundred. If you think the comedown from the white mdpv is bad, rub this oil into your skin. You'll be begging for a hundred milligram dose of the white in exchange. Use rubber gloves.
Anyway --- can someone tell me how I can mechanically separate the oil from the precipitate in less than 5 hours? I definitaely don't want to use a reagent. I'm not a chemist or any kind of scientist by the way, just someone who refused to accept the "new mdpv".
Thank you.
Naturally, members of the forum are skeptical that he has found the Holy Grail of bath salts -especially, considering John freely admits that his freebase method is a bit sloppy, rudimentary, very time consuming and rarely produces the desired drug. Hence, his coming to the forum and asking for advice in the first place.
The good news is, when you are a millionaire living in Belize freebasing bath salts you have plenty of time on your hands to make more bath salt crack to freebase with your 17 year old girlfriend and post about it on the Internet!If you do try it, here is what happens (the white HCL is on the right, the precipitate left out for 24 hours in water and air is on the left, the precipitate after 48 hours is in the middle. It continues to degrade all the way through dark brown over the course of a week. The color in the center is what you're looking for in terms of best characteristics. When dried it remains stable):
Note: The above posts are simply freebasing instructions for the HCL form of mdpv. To my knowledge there is no synthesis involved or transformation into any chemical other than mdpv.
P.S. DO NOT TOUCH THE OIL. Extremely dangerous. And never take more than 5mg of the tan colored form at one time.
Meanwhile, rumors begin circulating around Belize that the eccentric millionaire who lives in their neck of the woods is becoming increasingly... eccentric. He spends days on end and all hours of the night hidden away in his jungle compound with a small harem of teenage girls... just what the hell is he doing in there...?I just tried it with 10 ml of water, 200 mg of pv, 150 mg of soda, and no heating, and you can see the oil residue on the sides of the beaker, so 100 ml and cold solution should be no problem - (although to FULLY recover your pv you do have to heat it). I didn't wait for the powder to fully precipitate before I took the pic - you can see it just starting to form the slightly darker thin layer on the bottom - just wanted to see if the oil was produced and precipitate would begin.
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I can only assume that your pv is something other than pv.
If you do get it right, here's what it should look like after 72 hours of evaporation. (I scraped the lower half for drying for the next pic):
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Here's the lower half after drying and before grinding back into a powder:
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After 96 hours of evaporation you get the following. It's still very good, but not as good as the previous color:
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Both of the above colored forms are highly potent. Don't eyeball dosage. If you're used to the white pv, you will certainly overdose on this stuff because it is three times heavier by volume than the white stuff. If you achieve a color similar to the first one above, then it's potency is hard to overstate. Always weigh it and never do more than 3mg at a time. 3 mg of this is not much larger than a pinhead.
A side note: heat IS required to begin the transformation. For example, if you don't heat the solution at all during precipitation you will be left with a light yellow substance that has exactly the same poor characteristics of white mdpv. If you don't provide enough heat the same thing will happen. You'll know when not enough heat has been applied because after 24 hours of evaporation your mix will have a light greenish yellow cast, with no orange tint. There will be no tan hue. It will look like this:
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If the oil has a nice egg yolk color to it, then the heating has been perfect:
If the yellow-green color happens, don't worry, you haven't lost anything.. Add water, pour it back in the flask and heat slowly as described in an earlier post (two saucepans) for a couple of hours. Redo everything and the tan mdpv will appear.
There are dozens of things that can go wrong during this process - none of them irreversible. And there are a few possible end products that might look like the tan, but aren't (overheating the solution, for example, produces something, after evaporation and drying, that looks exactly like tan mdpv but merely gives massive, incapacitating headaches when bumped -- no euphoria, no high, no hypersexuality). If you run into problems I'll be happy to help.
Holy shit! This dude claims to have discovered a psycho-sexual drug so potent, you will rub your dick into a bloody stump after rage fucking the family dog after just one bump!
What do you do when you are a millionaire living in a third world country who has discovered a means to produce the ultimate sex drug and you have a harem of 17 year old girls addicted to it?
Buy better lab equipment and start passing the shit out like candy.
And this might be the place to talk about "Pure Tan". My first post in this thread alluded to the process, and visually showed some of the procedures. I purposely obfuscated a little, because, well, I did a lot of work to figure out how to make it pure, and it's not really necessary for the average user anyway. The quick and dirty, which anyone can do, is well explained above and produces, IMHO, the finest chemical ever to appear on this planet. I'm a perfectionist, however, and spent the better part of this past year honing a purification procedure. I won't talk about how to do, because it wouldn't be germane to the average kitchen cook. It requires, among other unwieldy implements, a rotovap:
An Airclean system:
A reasonably powerful microscope that will connect to a computer (so you can do detailed, microscopic measurements), and an incubator:
It's not a fun process. Five consecutive full 12 hour workdays will produce only this:
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A one milligram dose of this, whatever THIS is, is scary. A 10 mg dose, unchaperoned, would be unquestionable fatal, or at least massively harmful - mostly from the uncontrollable insanity it would bring into your life. Keep in mind that the end product of the "quick and dirty approach" that I outlined contains less than 10% of this substance (precipitate, unavoidable loss through evaporation, mdpv contamination, etc.), so a 5mg dose of the "quick and dirty" is a good time. A 5mg dose of the pure would be a time you would never forget, and probably never want to repeat.
What I do here, with my friends and acquaintances who, rightly, worship this stuff, is mix it 50 to 1 with ground up Excedrin, and wrap it in 25mg doses:
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Why Excedrin? First, large doses of the Tan is socially harmful, at the least, and people are people. They don't use the best judgment sometimes. Powdered excedrin, bumped or plugged in doses of more than 200mg in a single day, will cause massive pain, bleeding and discomfort. It is a deterrent to crossing the line into extreme danger. Second, daily use of the Tan causes a a slight background headache for some users after a few days (me included). 25 mg of Excedrin powder, bumped, removes it entirely. But.... since people are people, a number of folks have figured out how to remove the Excedrin by mixing the batch in a large quantity of water. The Excedrin remains in suspension for 10 or 15 minutes. The pure Tan falls to the bottom almost immediately. They siphon off the suspension and are left with an extremely dangerous substance. Dangerous because it is utterly impossible to measure a safe dosage of the pure substance, without possessing a scale costing thousands of dollars.. there have already been harmful events with people who have "purified" my Excedrin mix.
A local brothel owner (prostitution is legal in my country) talked me out of a large amount of Tan and provides it to his working girls and their customers. The idea was to simply increase business by having hornier customers and more authentic product. It worked for a while, and then girls started taking larger doses and giving customers larger doses. They began leaving and running off with customers - some after a single contact with the customer. Two of these men were married, had good jobs, and children that they loved. It has to be obvious, even to the most casual observer, that this is massively disruptive and borders on insanity.
If a person takes a large dose of the Tan and has the misfortune to have no partner at the time, then truly terrible things happen. A number of men, and women, have molested strangers after massive doses of the pure product (which is why I no longer provide it to anyone other than trusted friends - everything else is cut 50 to one). Twice, users on large doses have tried to molest my dogs. Again, even the most casual observer will see the danger in this.
I have distributed over 3,000 doses exclusively in this country. They call it SPT (I named it) and it is a seriously hot underground topic here. I know of at least a dozen people who spend virtually full time playing with this, and hundreds trying to get samples, which I dole out with meticulous care. Anyone caught sharing this with another without my consent doesn't get any more.
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