And I agree with you. But what I am saying is maybe lot of them could have been different if they grew up in todays society. Perhaps not racist, If you and I grew up in the early 1900s we probably would have been lot different than we are now.
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John Wayne - “I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility.”
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Perhaps. But your initial posts didn't seem to be getting to this. I think that's why you're being dogpiled
Sorry English is not my main language so maybe sometime its difficult to express my thoughts the right way. But that's what I meant. It is indeed a curious case for a man to be racist and then marry have many children with non white women. that is all I was thinking.
A lot of slave owners infamously raped their black female slaves. Their attraction to these poor women doesnt make the slave owners any less racist. Your mention of Wayne's Hispanic wives is akin to someone claiming they can't be racist because they have black friends.
Once again... that's. Not. How
Racism. Works.
What does him marrying latina women have to do with him not being racist? Nothing.
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Ok I see what you are saying. But comparing Wayne to slave owners is a bit too much no? He didn't rape his wives, he married them, built a family had children. Maybe he got divorced for personal reasons but I just found him being compared to a slave owner is extreme?
Latina.
The guy was a well-known right-wing lunatic and douchebag so this isn't surprising at all.
I don't think I said he was not racist. Nor was I trying to prove.
No I am from Bangladesh. I put Argentina flag there because of the FIFA world cup team support. Someone from ResetEra put the flag for me there because they were my favorite team. And what you mean by Explains a lot...?
A man who thinks both women and non-white men are sub-human has no difficulty marrying and having children with a non-white woman. Misogyny and racism often go hand in hand. Only white men are real people with agency -- everyone else is a resource to be used.
I mean on the one hand I believe we should judge people based on their time, people are products of their environment and upbringing and while we shouldn't excuse it we should still understand it in context.
But on the other hand, even for his own time he was a racist, draft dodging, chickenhawk piece of shit. Also The Dude took your best role and did it better than you did.
But on the other hand, even for his own time he was a racist, draft dodging, chickenhawk piece of shit. Also The Dude took your best role and did it better than you did.
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2018
What did you learn today?
John Wayne was a racist ass fool though his sentence about him saying that he supposes the population % of Blacks should be reflected in the workforce, is something even too progressive for the modern American lol.
What Wayne is saying about "The Blacks" is still a general attitude.
To add, since Black people were enslaved here in the 1600s there was always a minority White population of abolitionists with a majority of Whites being racist. White America didn't have a change of heart from within, outside factors were what improved some traditionally racist behavior.
All out Civil Warfare and the implementation of laws thereafter is what reined in White America's bloodlust. That prior hatred mostly evolved into dislike and "tolerance".
OJ Simpson was not all that misogynistic. He was married twice and both times were with women. What does that tell about him?
"Our company is all for diversity but what we're not prepared to do, is to lower our standards.". LOL.
What Wayne is saying about "The Blacks" is still a general attitude.
The US is still heavily segregated as hell. If John Wayne were a tech bro he still would have a problem with having a Black boss lol.
To add, since Black people were enslaved here in the 1600s there was always a minority White population of abolitionists with a majority of Whites being racist. White America didn't have a change of heart from within, outside factors were what improved some traditionally racist behavior.
All out Civil Warfare and the implementation of laws thereafter is what reined in White America's bloodlust. That prior hatred mostly evolved into dislike and "tolerance".
The secret answer is that they also grew up in a deeply racist society. People like to think that we've somehow evolved beyond racism, but that's ridiculous.
We've painted over some of the more obvious spots, but the systemic rot is still present in the entire structure.
Psh, MDC wrote a song about this all the way back in '82
It was public knowledge for a long time but Wayne had been given "American hero" status so the general public was quick to go all "We forgive you king."
It was public knowledge for a long time but Wayne had been given "American hero" status so the general public was quick to go all "We forgive you king."
For extra yucks, look up the beliefs his bestie and frequent co-star Ward Bond held. Dude made ol' John almost look tolerant, which might be why Wayne kept him around.
Whites playing Asians were common in that time. Obviously a super miscast. John wayne being John wayne being Genghis Khan. that movie is the reason he most likely got his cancer, it was shot near a heavily irradiated area. The crew used to joke about the Geiger Counter too. A lot of people ultimately caught cancer from that movie at least that's what it is believed now I think.
LOL "not all that Racist"
"I believe in white supremacy" is not canceled out by a spouse with melanin. Y'all know he also routinely cheated on his spouses? You think because a man puts a ring on a woman of color that's a free pass to say blacks shouldn't have rights?
Get the complete fuck out of here.
I'm gonna assume each of them was "one of the good ones" to him
Lol for some reason now I'm curious as to who were John Wayne's favorites among "The Blacks" and who he considered educated enough to compete with Whites.
I just wanted to point out that the saying is "Par for the course" Like in golf.
Huh, I definitely knew that. Wonder how I screwd that up. Maybe I was thinking of writing another thing and the signals got crossed.
What rumors? Rumors are a bit different from documented facts such as with Wayne.
Also, Audie Murphy had severe PTSD from his war experience in a time where there was zero understanding of it so a lot of shitty behavior could be blamed on it.
John Wayne ran in similar circles as Ronald Reagan.
Look up what happened to Rock Hudson (the did the film "The Undefeated" together) sometime if you really want to know who much of a shit lord Wayne (and Reagan) were.
Look up what happened to Rock Hudson (the did the film "The Undefeated" together) sometime if you really want to know who much of a shit lord Wayne (and Reagan) were.
True story: When I was a kid, my family had a huge painting of John Wayne in our living room and I used to have nightmares of it coming alive and getting me.
I don't really understand the "it's a different time" angle. I mean, I'm pretty sure not being racist was an option back then too. Hell, one of the most popular country musicians back then wrote a song about interracial love back in the 60s. It wasn't mandatory to be white and racist back then, even in a conservative milieu.
I've heard alot of rumos when I was in the army that he was a child molester...
2018
What did you learn today?
That everyone in this picture looks like the dickhead he most likely is. This is some Lombroso-validating shit. Look at this people, it's like they're assholes on a genetic level.
That's how I feel, none of this is surprising to me but I'll still enjoy his movies.
To all the people saying "we know about this" or "we've had threads on this before":
Who the fuck cares? People like this should be shamed until the end of time. Nobody should forget that people like this were incredibly common in the world.
In 50 years we better still be shaming Trump supporters for the shit they have done and said. It's unacceptable and it can't be repeated enough.
Who the fuck cares? People like this should be shamed until the end of time. Nobody should forget that people like this were incredibly common in the world.
In 50 years we better still be shaming Trump supporters for the shit they have done and said. It's unacceptable and it can't be repeated enough.