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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure ERA |OT| Stand Up and Pose
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I really like Aerosmith but i have a distinct feeling Aerosmith is not starting next week. Instead we get the introduction of the Execution Squad and their backstory
"Let's Go Eat Some Italian Food" is now my favorite Diamond is Unbreakable episode. It's just plain fun without anything bad actually happening and I love that so much. As I was watching it, I remembered hoping for Stand users that aren't villains and simply Stand users. Good ones who won't join the group and just go about their lives. I expected it would turn out that the chef was a bad guy, but holy shit, he actually was a good guy. It only continues to make me like Part 4 over Stardust Crusaders even more. I wasn't a fan of the "Stand user of the week" format the latter did, and while the former does it too, it's not the same "Stand user DIO sent to attack the group" thing again and again. It's way more interesting and enjoyable this way.
Joseph's finally about to make an appearance in the following episodes! Excited to see him, though it's also a little sad to see him so old and weak now. Looking forward to him and Josuke meeting...
Okuyasu almost beating Red Hot Chilli Pepper was awesome, and while Chilli Pepper ultimately won, I'm still happy that Okuyasu was able to put up a great fight.
Joseph's finally about to make an appearance in the following episodes! Excited to see him, though it's also a little sad to see him so old and weak now. Looking forward to him and Josuke meeting...
Okuyasu almost beating Red Hot Chilli Pepper was awesome, and while Chilli Pepper ultimately won, I'm still happy that Okuyasu was able to put up a great fight.
Wondering, what do you think of the Execution Squad's backstory
Also, i am going to make a prediction - David Productions are going to forshadow Polneraff much earlier then the manga did
Also, i am going to make a prediction - David Productions are going to forshadow Polneraff much earlier then the manga did
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I read both the botched translation and the good translation. Even after finishing the good translation, I can say Diavolo is still easily at the bottom of the antagonists list with Kars.
I'll put it this way - Diavolo is a fine villain and I'd much rather read about him than most other bad guys in manga, but in my books, he doesn't hold a candle compared to Dio, Kira, Pucci, and Funny Valentine.
I read the good translation he's still one of my least favorite main villains
From what I remember he has no personality or quirks. Coming after Kira and ranting about riding the eternal climax is such a downgrade.
Diovolo is about as interesting as if you combined all the pillar men into one character. a little better because of king crimson.
Let's hope that Diavolo gets a theme as hype as the Pillar men.
LITERALLY DOPPIO
Come the fuck on People, it's the same person.
The entire character is the dichotomy of a guy who is a total witless coward who also rides on the high of being untouchable and unidentifiable
Kira had fucking presence though. Maybe I just don't remember him too well I guess. I do tend to define most of how I like a villain by their anime adaptation though. Though I liked Pucci regardless.
I think the switch is pretty powerful. People expecting like a tough ass gangster and you get Doppio.
He should've tried to fight Giorno with an ice cream cone still in his hand.
This is fitting since this is the most violent part in the series. Who knows maybe I'll like Diavolo more the second time around. I don't exactly hate him he's just not one of my favorites.
Diovolo is sort of underwhelming for a couple of reasons. I think people forget that he also had a third form as a shadowy man in a suit, in my mind he looked like Giovani from Pokemon. Instead we get another androgynous guy with long hair.
I feel like we don't see him a lot. Pucci and Kira have their own adventures and back story they get into. With Diovolo there is something about a fire and the stand arrows. Otherwise he is like Dio in part 3. But part 3 Dio had the benefit of being fleshed out in part 1. It was still satisfying to have him behind the scenes.
I also feel like the final battle with Diovolo lacked the creative spark the other final battles had. Some bullshit happens and the heroes win. They don't really use their Guile to win.
I feel like we don't see him a lot. Pucci and Kira have their own adventures and back story they get into. With Diovolo there is something about a fire and the stand arrows. Otherwise he is like Dio in part 3. But part 3 Dio had the benefit of being fleshed out in part 1. It was still satisfying to have him behind the scenes.
I also feel like the final battle with Diovolo lacked the creative spark the other final battles had. Some bullshit happens and the heroes win. They don't really use their Guile to win.
Josuke purposely not using Crazy Diamond to fix Joseph's cane as an excuse to hold his hand was so damn heartwarming, holy shit.
On the other hand, holy shit Joseph, I sure as hell hope you'll pay your son back for all those diapers and stuff. Really loved that we had another episode that wasn't about an enemy Stand user, though. Diamond is Unbreakable continues to impress and make Stardust Crusaders almost look bad. At least the latter had a much better sense of camaraderie thanks to the journey format and all that.
On the other hand, holy shit Joseph, I sure as hell hope you'll pay your son back for all those diapers and stuff. Really loved that we had another episode that wasn't about an enemy Stand user, though. Diamond is Unbreakable continues to impress and make Stardust Crusaders almost look bad. At least the latter had a much better sense of camaraderie thanks to the journey format and all that.
He is and he isn't. He is, because he's heavily implied to be the what Diavolo was when he was younger, but he isn't because he LITERALLY splits off into a different character by the end. It's the implication thing that irks me a lot about Diavolo, because that's what half of his character is. Why did that "bad event" happen and how did that turn young Diavolo into mob Diavolo? Always why tf would a paranoid man such as Diavolo ever want to be mob leader, let alone world dominion?
Why would a guy who wants control of everything, go after a position that allows control of everything...
Come on now.
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I am glad to know I am not alone in thinking this lol
Also come off that "they end up as different characters"
No they don't. Doppio doesn't get an arc alone after the split. They split and he immediately dies. And for obvious reason. Because Araki established that Diavolo's not 100% in control of when either form is dominant.
No they don't. Doppio doesn't get an arc alone after the split. They split and he immediately dies. And for obvious reason. Because Araki established that Diavolo's not 100% in control of when either form is dominant.
I don't know if I buy that honestly. That's like if Kira ran for Morioh mayor to get over his insecurities. I get the the theming, but that's a huge leap for character motivations imo (which again, could've been fleshed out to connect the dots)
And are you sure about Diavolo not having control over Doppio? I distinctly remember him about to bring back Doppio during the Metallica fight because he was getting wrecked, only for Doppio to convince him otherwise. I'm preeetty sure Doppio was only dominant when he had to hide his real identity, i.e. they had a talk about who should be out whenever it's necessary. It's more mutual than being "out of control"
The entire Metallica fight was largely about them not having the capacity to swap on the fly and that fucking them over hard core.
Diavolo is not Kira.
Kira's paranoia stemmed from a sense that his world was going to be shattered. It was not a core of his character. Diavolo is always paranoid, because he feels everything is an obstacle to his desire to control eveyrthing.
They're coming from completely different places.
Wait is Diavolo the man who helped Girono as a kid. I haven't read P5, so my knowledge of stuff is scattered.
I'm looking at the newer translations right now. It's a distance thing akin to why Dio needs to get closer to get Jotaro "in range". Doppio also convinced Diavolo not to come out because of the few seconds it would take to transition. A disadvantage sure, but hardly something that states Diavolo doesn't have "control" of what form he wants to take
Fair enough. I just wanted to see more of Diavolo's past is all. Hopefully the anime does something with that.
I can't tell if king crimson is a good design or not. on one hand I think it's supposed to be strange and upsetting, but on the other hand I think it's too good at its job
Kira doesn't seek control at all. He seeks peace of mind. Kira isn't obsessed with deleting every trace of his past, in fact he is perfectly content leading a quiet, muted life where he doesn't bring attention to himself.
Diavolo doesn't want peace, he doesn't want a quiet life, he wants to be at the very top while making sure he will never be targeted, ever, and the only way to do so is by being ruthlessly thorough cleaning every hint of his presence.
This is easy to get. The King Crimson ability is making him someone who has the objective to remove himself from public eye. Like, it's an ongoing project of his to make sure that no one can trace back to him. His future with King Crimson is guaranteed, 100%, so he seeks to go back to his past to clean up the rest. He will not keep doing that, but this is what he wanted at the time.
No it's not. There isn't a single element of Diavolo's life that would lead to him saving someone. It's not the same kind of loose ends as part 4 with future Josuke helping past Josuke being dropped.
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Much like Diavolo having the unenviable task of falling between Kira and Pucci, King Crimson gets flanked by Killer Queen and Whitesnake, my second and third favorite Stands in the series, respectively.
Also, I only just remembered that Epitaph had its named changed, too. Emperor Crimson and Eulogy, here we come!
Also, I only just remembered that Epitaph had its named changed, too. Emperor Crimson and Eulogy, here we come!
Watching the anime reminds me that I don't remember SHIT about VA (never really went back to it like I did other parts), but I always saw Diavolo and Doppio as the same character. Couldn't remember if it was split personalities or what. Still one of the weaker villains in the series, but that's due to the insane competition rather than those two being a weak character. Doppio rules.
Yep, in the end I'm glad that they managed to subvert that expectation though.
Yep, in the end I'm glad that they managed to subvert that expectation though.
Vento Aureo and Pokémon were first releasing about at the same time as one another
OK...this is too much and they only altered like one thing there
OK...this is too much and they only altered like one thing there
The thing is part 5 is nothing but Bishie model looking guys except Polpo and the guy with Beach Boy. I sort of missed in part 4 when everyone had wildly different looking designs. A straight laced businessman could have been cool, but I guess that's sort of what Kira was.
Part 5 pretty much has a bishie pretty boy for every fetish genre.
Time stop don't do shit to Time skip and speeding up time.