Joker from Persona 5 announced for Smash Bros. Ultimate (DLC Pack 1)

Oct 25, 2017
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I am not sure how people can say Joker is not that relevant when he stars in a multi million seller that received endless rave reviews and cameos in loads of other games on all kinds of platforms with likely dozens upon dozens more happening in the coming years. I want characters like Captain Syrup to show up too (I really, really want more Wario reps in general), but trying to downplay this based on relevance is absolutely bizarre. Nintendo legitimately does not have very many notable characters left.

Also guys, you are forgetting Joker's other cameo on a Nintendo console.

He's also in PSO2, which is on Switch in Japan.

 
Oct 28, 2017
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The announcement of a cool new Smash character is almost enough to make me forget about the endless torment I endure as a Metroid fan!
 

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I audibly screamed at this. I was absolutely shocked, this is fucking awesome.

I was suspicious at first, seeing how Atlus would NEVER announce something that wasn't announced in Japan already at a western event. Almost always, Atlus announces things at their own events. The most recent exception I can think of is announcing what came to be known as SMTV at the Nintendo Switch Conference in 2017. I thought maybe this was something about Persona Q2, but then was thinking "Why would they take time at the Game Awards for that?!"

Then I saw the envelope with the Smash symbol and lost my goddamn mind.

Thats a big reason sure. But also i feel to put Persona leapfrogging SMT is such a wrong thing to do.
As someone who much prefers SMT to Persona, and wish they did either Jack Frost or Demi-Fiend, I totally understand them doing Joker and Persona instead, and it totally makes sense. Honestly it probably makes more sense. Yes, Persona's roots are in SMT, but Persona has popularized the broader MegaTen franchise and given the popularity of Joker, it makes sense. I would bet that Joker's moveset will have more than just Arsene for Personas, and those will of course be SMT demons, which while those are in Persona games, they would also pay homage to SMT. Also I would think there might at least be a music track or two from SMT, I feel like that would be appropriate.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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https://nintendosoup.com/rumor-persona-5-coming-to-nintendo-switch-in-2019/

Think you should all look at this. Apparently the person who tweeted these is reliable, buuut after today/yesterday, insiders aren't exactly looking good right now...

But I wanna belieeeeeve!
???: https://nintendosoup.com/rumor-persona-5-switch-official-title-is-persona-5-reloaded/

Sounds baseless and it's shoddy reporting. I know Mystic, and he is not a "longtime veteran in the industry" by any means.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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And I feel highly dissappointed as Smash should also give room for the smaller IP then. SMT getting more spotlight is a good thing to help push the IP worldwide.
It’s not Nintendo’s job to push obscure third party IP worldwide at the expense of the potential revenues they would get from their own product.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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And I feel highly dissappointed as Smash should also give room for the smaller IP then. SMT getting more spotlight is a good thing to help push the IP worldwide.
You do not feel highly disappointed. You are acting as if Nintendo personally betrayed you and are outraged that others aren’t screaming for blood.

And yeah, the demi-fiend probably is more known to people watching the game awards than the SMTIV hero who is so bland I don’t even remember his name.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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No, this makes no sense and I cannot process this.

But it's still cool as shit. When someone came and told me, I thought they were screwing with me because I happened to be in the middle of playing P5. He told me "you know I'm not lying cause I don't know who Joker is. That's who the Smash character is btw, its on top of reddit."

Truly unexpected.
 

HylianSeven

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Final Smash I think will be an All Out Attack joined by other party members. The difference being instead of the blood spray, it would be the clouds when someone is launched.
 

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So, that confirms a Switch port then. Given the DLC characters were chosen internally by Nintendo.
Not really. Persona has two main side series, Persona dancing (on PlayStation) and Persona Q, featured 3&4 characters, (on 3DS) persona q2 just came out in Japan on 3ds a week or two ago which features persona 5 characters.
 
Dec 7, 2017
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I audibly screamed at this. I was absolutely shocked, this is fucking awesome.

I was suspicious at first, seeing how Atlus would NEVER announce something that wasn't announced in Japan already at a western event. Almost always, Atlus announces things at their own events. The most recent exception I can think of is announcing what came to be known as SMTV at the Nintendo Switch Conference in 2017. I thought maybe this was something about Persona Q2, but then was thinking "Why would they take time at the Game Awards for that?!"

Then I saw the envelope with the Smash symbol and lost my goddamn mind.

I love this reaction.

Man, Nintendo had some AMAZING characters reveal for Smash. And for me this one is the most shocking since Snake for Brawl. I needed few seconds just to comprehend what was going on. My brain could not compute it.

Sakurai deserves a statue.
 
May 15, 2018
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Lol remember when people said "no third party because it's Nintendo picking the music".
Well there it is. Persona ain't even on the Switch lmao (I guess it's coming tho !!)
Now just imagine. The musics !!!!!!!
Can't wait.. Man this Fighter Pass is going to be good...
 
Oct 28, 2017
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As someone who's been wanting a Sin and Punishment character for ten years now, SMT can wait.
So now we are using whataboutism huh. Sure.

You do not feel highly disappointed. You are acting as if Nintendo personally betrayed you and are outraged that others aren’t screaming for blood.

And yeah, the demi-fiend probably is more known to people watching the game awards than the SMTIV hero who is so bland I don’t even remember his name.
I havent call other to boycott the game. I am expressing how huge my disappointment with this choice. I feel it ruined some part of smash for me.

Again you dont need to act like you are the standard of taste. I hate these moves. You like it. So you probably can leave me alone capiche?

It’s not Nintendo’s job to push obscure third party IP worldwide at the expense of the potential revenues they would get from their own product.
It is also not my duty to feel happy with this announcement as i feel it took over some possible character that i feel more worthy of those spots.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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If I'm not mistaken, didn't Sakurai say that the decision for the DLC characters were all made by Nintendo? Interesting choice by Nintendo.
 
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Dec 28, 2017
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I love this reaction.

Man, Nintendo had some AMAZING characters reveal for Smash. And for me this one is the most shocking since Snake for Brawl. I needed few second just to comprehend what was going on. My brain could not compute it.

Sakurai deserves a statue.
I honestly think this one beats out Snake for me tbh. Like damn, I still can't believe this is real lol. The fact that Joker is in Smash still hasn't sunk in for me yet.
 

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I honestly think this one beats out Snake for me tbh. Like damn, I still can't believe this is real lol. The fact that Joker is in Smash still hasn't sunk in for me yet.
Not to go into console war territory, but it's crazy to me that three characters that are most frequently associated with Sony (Snake, Cloud, Joker) are all in Smash.

More and more proof Smash is not a Nintendo crossover, it's a video game crossover.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Possible Spirit fights:

Morgana: Isabelle accompanied by the Kapp'n Assist Trophy
Ryuji: Roy with a baseball bat
Ann: Zero Suit Samus
Yusuke: Fox with the fan (is the fan still in the game?)
Makoto: Mii Brawler wearing the Makoto Mii Outfit that is totally coming because Sakurai knows the nerds will buy a Makoto Mii Outfit
Futaba: Inkling
Haru: Princess Peach probably
Goro: Marth
 
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Not to go into console war territory, but it's crazy to me that three characters that are most frequently associated with Sony (Snake, Cloud, Joker) are all in Smash.

More and more proof Smash is not a Nintendo crossover, it's a video game crossover.
Indeed, and that's honestly a great thing. Imagine Doomguy and Master Chief getting in, would be nuts! If not Chief then I'm hoping Banjo and Kazooie show up instead.
 
Nov 18, 2017
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Hopefully this means Persona 5 for Switch.

As a Xenoblade fan, it hurts that any hope I had has now been quashed. Three games in and all we have is Shulk.

I’m not here to rain on anyone’s parade, it just bums me out.

Still, maybe my Banjo dreams are now more likely. :)
 

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I'm just glad none of you can predict this shit. So happy hahaha! No one can predict Smash DLC anymore!!

Everyone I know that played P5 was freaking out about this. Can't wait to see the rest (and more importantly, play Ultimate tomorrow!)
 
Oct 31, 2017
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Hopefully this means Persona 5 for Switch.

As a Xenoblade fan, it hurts that any hope I had has now been quashed. Three games in and all we have is Shulk.

I’m not here to rain on anyone’s parade, it just bums me out.

Still, maybe my Banjo dreams are now more likely. :)
I don't think Joker de-confirms Rex by any means.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Of course it is all about profit. What are u talking about here?

Persona is more popular than Smt both in japan and WW. By putting Persona rep, it literally show that Nintendo put profit on selling their DLC first over representing title like SMT which have been staple on Nintendo platform for gods know how long.

Gone have the days where Smash actually promote games that actually is released on it platform or help promoting smaller games to be more popular. Nowadays it is just wanking toward popular IP for more profit.

Maximizing profit would mean to boost sales of SMT and Smash, not only Smash.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I'm just glad none of you can predict this shit. So happy hahaha! No one can predict Smash DLC anymore!!

Everyone I know that played P5 was freaking out about this. Can't wait to see the rest (and more importantly, play Ultimate tomorrow!)
I remember thinking that Joker would be a good fit for Smash, but I never actually thought he would make the cut. It's kinda unbelievable tbh.
 
Nov 18, 2017
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I don't think Joker de-confirms Rex by any means.
Forgive me I’ve just woke up (in jolly ‘o England), but didn’t Reggie say that the new characters will be surprises from series not yet featured in Smash?

If that’s the case, I think that’s the nail in the coffin.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Totally unexpected!! Today I'm getting my Smash copy, and I'm considering to purchase the fighter pass just because of this.

Does this mean Persona 5 for Switch as well? I don't mind buying it for the second time, that game is awesome.

And I thought Jack Frost would arrive to Smash and Persona characters would never make it,... Haha
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I wonder if joker getting in means kazuma kiryu has a chance? With the way thing are progressing, it seems he has a better chance here than in Tekken