"Joker" paying royalties to convicted pedophile Gary Glitter because it features one of his songs (UPDATE: Nope)

TheModestGun · Oct 12, 2019

Goodstyle said:
He isn't getting any royalties for this apparently:

This is amazing, and makes the moral panic over the movie even more hilarious. Gary Glitter is a piece of shit, but knowing he doesn't get a red cent pretty much confirms that many of the reactions out there from the press did very little research about it and was one last attempt to say "SEE! THIS MOVIE IS A BIG MORAL PROBLEM!"

Praxis · Oct 12, 2019

Good to see this cunt will get no money from this

Gustaf · Oct 12, 2019

Elderly Parrot said:
OP please do research next time, thanks

honestly this is on the "Respectable" media source,

like i saw this news on one outlet, it is a respectable outlet, but it was obvious that it was speculations.

the rest of the websites ran with the story anyways

Cantaim · Oct 12, 2019

Yams said:
The metaness of people trying to bring the Joker down and the movie getting away with it is hilarious

It's honestly pretty damn funny lmao

Lundren · Oct 12, 2019

I'm happy that he isn't getting money out of this.

It's pathetic that the people who also didn't know he wasn't are in here doing a victory lap as though the reason they didn't care was because they knew he wasn't getting paid instead of the fact that they didn't care.

Riboflavin · Oct 12, 2019

This discussion has run its course.

i am ORDERING all of you to stop posting IMMEDIATELY

ZeroX · Oct 12, 2019

Bahaha you just can't cancel this movie, this is so funny.

I also like how it had to be clarified he's a convicted pedophile, because you know every Hollywood film is financially tied to unconvicted sexual predators in some way.

Yams · Oct 12, 2019

Cantaim said:
It's honestly pretty damn funny lmao

It's like they all know how comic Batman feels now

I love it so much

KHarvey16 · Oct 12, 2019

Lundren said:
I'm happy that he isn't getting money out of this.

It's pathetic that the people who also didn't know he wasn't are in here doing a victory lap as though the reason they didn't care was because they knew he wasn't getting paid instead of the fact that they didn't care.

I think the reason people are laughing is most saw the effort as having dubious motivations at best.

Deleted member 20202 · Oct 12, 2019

ZeroX said:
Bahaha you just can't cancel this movie, this is so funny.

I also like how it had to be clarified he's a convicted pedophile, because you know every Hollywood film is financially tied to unconvicted sexual predators in some way.

What could we watch and enjoy if we considered that?

SJRB · Oct 12, 2019

Durden said:
I'm pretty sure Joker the movie was in my garage last night trying to steal my tools

I saw Joker the movie kick a puppy yesterday.

ZeroX · Oct 12, 2019

Cassidy said:
What could we watch and enjoy if we considered that?

Nice landscapes you film yourself

Deleted member 2109 · Oct 12, 2019

Lundren said:
I'm happy that he isn't getting money out of this.

It's pathetic that the people who also didn't know he wasn't are in here doing a victory lap as though the reason they didn't care was because they knew he wasn't getting paid instead of the fact that they didn't care.

For me it was more that people cared in this instance when I never recalled anything like this popping up before. Where were the articles or threads about Thor using Zeppelin? Or about any movie using music made or produced by problematic people. Where was your outrage then?

Border · Oct 12, 2019

Give me your best prediction for the next trumped-up controversy surrounding Joker:

"Someone on the catering staff was a racist!"

"Joaquin Phoenix sat next to George W. Bush at a baseball game once!"

"Todd Phillips yelled at a chihuahua on the set of Hangover Part 2!"

Lundren · Oct 12, 2019

KHarvey16 said:
I think the reason people are laughing is most saw the effort as having dubious motivations at best.

I disagree. I've seen a lot of these posters defending this movie who couldn't bother weighing in on the fact that we were being told that a pedophile was making money from this.

I'll be clear. Thinking that there is a problem with paying a pedophile royalties has nothing to do with whether you can enjoy a movie.

foggy · Oct 12, 2019

These culture wars are something else

Error 52 · Oct 12, 2019

Border said:
Give me your best prediction for the next trumped-up controversy surrounding Joker:

"Someone on the catering staff was a racist!"

"Joaquin Phoenix sat next to George W. Bush at a baseball game once!"

"Todd Phillips yelled at a cocker spaniel on the set of Hangover Part 2!"

Someone who saw the movie kills someone (with no indication that the incidents are related)

Lundren · Oct 12, 2019

Knuckle Sandwich said:
For me it was more that people cared in this instance when I never recalled anything like this popping up before. Where were the articles or threads about Thor using Zeppelin? Or about any movie using music made or produced by problematic people. Where was your outrage then?

Make one. I'll be right next to you talking about how shitty it is that people are paying pedophiles.

Deleted member 20202 · Oct 12, 2019

foggy said:
These culture wars are something else

If you read Iain M Banks you'd know their over really quickly and they always win.

Error 52 · Oct 12, 2019

Lundren said:
I disagree. I've seen a lot of these posters defending this movie who couldn't bother weighing in on the fact that we were being told that a pedophile was making money from this.

I'll be clear. Thinking that there is a problem with paying a pedophile royalties has nothing to do with whether you can enjoy a movie.

Honestly Gary Glitter's probably gonna die in prison anyway, he's never gonna make use out of any theoretical royalties so like, why sweat it

TheRuralJuror · Oct 12, 2019

Goodstyle said:
He isn't getting any royalties for this apparently:

Certainly great to hear. On to the next one, folks.

Border · Oct 12, 2019

Error 52 said:
Someone who saw the movie kills someone (with no indication that the incidents are related)

There's actually a pretty good probability that someone dressed as Joker will do something stupid on Halloween or at a Halloween party.....probably not a murder, but maybe something notable enough that the movie could be blamed.

zero_suit · Oct 12, 2019

Einchy said:
When you spent weeks saying this movie was for Incels but it wasn't

When you spent weeks saying this movie was going to empower the alt-right but it didn't

When you said this movie was gonna cause mass shootings but it didn't

When they figured out the behind the scenes Joaquin Phoenix video wasn't true

When you tried to say it paid a pedo to use their song, but didn't, and all you accomplished was making the pedo more famous in a country where he was a virtual unknown

I'm dying.

The furor over this film is amusing and pathetic at the same time.

Geoff · Oct 12, 2019

I have no dog in this fight but I think using the music of a prolific paedophile is still bad whether he gets money or not.

Lundren · Oct 12, 2019

Error 52 said:
Honestly Gary Glitter's probably gonna die in prison anyway, he's never gonna make use out of any theoretical royalties so like, why sweat it

That's a valid opinion for you to have.

I don't know that he will be dead before he can make use of the money. We know the rich don't play by the same rules as the rest of us.

That is different than laughing about jOkERs TriCk after spending time in this thread just as misinformed as everyone but not caring about the pedophile because you like a movie. (Not you specifically.)

Deleted member 20202 · Oct 12, 2019

Error 52 said:
Honestly Gary Glitter's probably gonna die in prison anyway, he's never gonna make use out of any theoretical royalties so like, why sweat it

It's not sweating it. But personally I'd rather not hear his music used in mainstream media.

To me it's that simple. Maybe it's closer to home for us UK posters of a certain age cos you know it appears our government and media accepted and propagated this type of behaviour in the dark days of the 70's and 80's.

You really did not want to be in care in them days.

Mona · Oct 12, 2019

jokers done it again

Aine · Oct 12, 2019

Honestly, the celebrating over defeating "cancel culture" being more louder than simply being relieved that a pedophile isn't getting a cent? Says a lot more about people than anything.

Syriel · Oct 12, 2019

Gundam said:
I don't think we should be paying artists that are shit bags, but it's clear to me that this thread exists because of the current conversation about Joker, not because of any current conversation about Glitter. That's not a defense, just an observation. This movie is already under a lot of scrutiny for stuff like this, so that's why this is getting more visibility than your normal "Bad person's music in a new popular movie" concerns.

I can't speak for others, but if you read my posts in the thread, I never attacked the film. Simply made the observation that the song choice seemed like another attempt by the director to troll critics.

lowhighkang_LHK said:
Was the make-up they used in Joker animal tested? I'd like to know this. I tipped the Hollywood Reporter about this.

Real talk though, Gary was charged in 2015. They should have done a better job of vetting this and considered using another song. But no, I don't think we should boycott Warner Bros. now.

Cpt-GargameL said:
I didn't even know who this guy was until this thread. With that said, can they change it in the Blu-Ray?

Anyone who follows sports in the US knows about Glitter. The NFL stopped using his songs a decade ago, and a bunch of NHL teams stopped using his music in 2015 because of his conviction.

The San Jose Sharks (to use a local example) were quite public about the decision.

Donald Draper said:
This kind of leaps in logic is why people are rolling their eyes.

No, I am saying when you foster hytersia and fear mongering over what turned out to be nothing than any possible real issues brought up are going to fall by the way side because you've already spent your good faith and people are going to assume it is just more nonsense and it looks like an agenda.

The hysteria was driven primarily by the director. He's been out there playing the victim card since the film started press tours, and whined about wokeness killing comedy.

Do you really think he wouldn't have made a song choice like this to troll audiences and critics?

That was the basis of the OP.

Donald Draper said:
Todd Phillips with the galaxy brain trolling to a new level.

Whelp what's the next angle boys?

So I guess you DO agree with the OP then.

Donald Draper said:
They'll quickly find something else having gained no self awareness.

This is ironic given that you came in complaining about the premise of the OP only to turn around and agree with the OP, despite claiming that OP was in bad faith. ;)

Shugga said:
Wouldn't be surprised if the director put it on purpose for shits and giggles.

That's exactly why the thread was made. From the way he's been promoting the film, I've no doubt decisions like this were made simply to troll and get reactions.

Dream Machine · Oct 12, 2019

I would highly recommend the chapo trap house review of this movie

Donald Draper · Oct 12, 2019

Lundren said:
I'm happy that he isn't getting money out of this.

It's pathetic that the people who also didn't know he wasn't are in here doing a victory lap as though the reason they didn't care was because they knew he wasn't getting paid instead of the fact that they didn't care.

Would like a towel to get the rest of the egg off your face?

Syriel said:
I can't speak for others, but if you read my posts in the thread, I never attacked the film. Simply made the observation that the song choice seemed like another attempt by the director to troll critics.

Anyone who follows sports in the US knows about Glitter. The NFL stopped using his songs a decade ago, and a bunch of NHL teams stopped using his music in 2015 because of his conviction.

The San Jose Sharks (to use a local example) were quite public about the decision.

The hysteria was driven primarily by the director. He's been out there playing the victim card since the film started press tours, and whined about wokeness killing comedy.

Do you really think he wouldn't have made a song choice like this to troll audiences and critics?

That was the basis of the OP.

So I guess you DO agree with the OP then.

This is ironic given that you came in complaining about the premise of the OP only to turn around and agree with the OP, despite claiming that OP was in bad faith. ;)

That's exactly why the thread was made. From the way he's been promoting the film, I've no doubt decisions like this were made simply to troll and get reactions.

The hysteria was not driven by the director unless you mean his comments made certain types in the media have an agenda to take him and his film down.

I was being facetious with the galaxy brain comment.

DoradoWinston · Oct 12, 2019

On the next episode of Joker Unleashed you will see how a bluray disc of Joker breaks into a woman's house and steals her cat!

MasterOfPastures · Oct 12, 2019

Dream Machine said:
I would highly recommend the chapo trap house review of this movie

Post the SoundCloud link to the episode! Maybe some baby-brains will become good soldiers of Bolshevism because of it.

Deleted member 16657 · Oct 12, 2019

Einchy said:
When you spent weeks saying this movie was for Incels but it wasn't

When you spent weeks saying this movie was going to empower the alt-right but it didn't

When you said this movie was gonna cause mass shootings but it didn't

When they figured out the behind the scenes Joaquin Phoenix video wasn't true

When you tried to say it paid a pedo to use their song, but didn't, and all you accomplished was making the pedo more famous in a country where he was a virtual unknown

Lmao, that Jesse gif is so accurate it hurts. Todd can't keep getting away with this

Lundren · Oct 12, 2019

Donald Draper said:
Would like a towel to get the rest of the egg off your face?

Keep fighting the good fight. Your identity is at risk.

DIE BART DIE · Oct 12, 2019

It's an awesome song and that moment in the film was great.

tsampikos · Oct 12, 2019

Yams said:
The metaness of people trying to bring the Joker down and the movie getting away with it is hilarious

There is nothing meta about manufactured outrage.

MazeHaze · Oct 12, 2019

Knuckle Sandwich said:
For me it was more that people cared in this instance when I never recalled anything like this popping up before. Where were the articles or threads about Thor using Zeppelin? Or about any movie using music made or produced by problematic people. Where was your outrage then?

Nobody was outraged at the Gary Glitter song on Gotham either

boontobias · Oct 12, 2019

Yet another Joker nontroversy. When will you people quit and why are you doing this at all

Halbrand · Oct 12, 2019

I had no idea that Gary Glitter did the song and it worked so great in that scene

It kind of helps that Joker isn't a good person himself

Cpt-GargameL · Oct 12, 2019

Just caught up since the update. What an interesting turn of events, yet again.

Rendering... · Oct 12, 2019

Goodstyle said:
He isn't getting any royalties for this apparently:

You mean to tell me people's outrage was misplaced? Is such a thing even possible?

TiC · Oct 12, 2019

Didn't recently the Lego Batman Movie make Michael Jackson's "Man in the Mirror" a huge part of the film?
Like they quoted it in the opening narration and repeatedly played it throughout the movie.
And that was a kid's movie.
Guardians of the Galaxy used a David Bowie song in 2014 when he apparently had flings with underage groupies back in the day.

Beef Supreme · Oct 12, 2019

Another swing and a miss by the press that, for basically no reason, is trying to tear this film down.

zero_suit · Oct 12, 2019

Beef Supreme said:
Another swing and a miss by the press that, for basically no reason, is trying to tear this film down.

And it keeps rising in response.

TiC · Oct 12, 2019

double post

Bricktop · Oct 12, 2019

Wow, another nothingburger. Who'd a thunk it?

I don't fault the OP for the thread, but the fact that so many mainstream sites ran with this nonsense without vetting their facts is fucking disgraceful. We all know why they did it though, and it's also why none of them will retract, or update, the articles they posted about it the last week or so. Or they'll move the goal posts instead of admitting their failings.

Are people still going to pretend like all of this Joker controversy stuff hasn't been straight up manufactured to shit on this movie?

Acorn · Oct 12, 2019

😭 this shit and the daily "Star wars" wars have been hilarious to watch. Good times.

Fisty · Oct 12, 2019

I figured, usually when music stars go through criminal trials they sell their rights away for the quick cash

Secret Squirrel · Oct 12, 2019

Impressively depressing responses here. People happily bopping along to a child rapist's tune as long as he's not getting paid. Fucking weirdos

"Joker" paying royalties to convicted pedophile Gary Glitter because it features one of his songs (UPDATE: Nope)

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