This film is just one massive troll, isn't it?
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"Joker" paying royalties to convicted pedophile Gary Glitter because it features one of his songs (UPDATE: Nope)
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You mean the song that is sang in American sports stadiums during a lot of Hockey games? Yeah as a Brit I always found that weirdly funny how the news of Gary Glitter being a paedophile didn't penetrate the states but just chalked it up to that song becoming engraved with sports culture.
It sounds like you're insinuating that the movie has many problems but I think this might be the only issue.
Using his music is a bad choice but outside of that the concerns about an incel uprising didn't appear to go anywhere.
i honestly never knew about the artist being a pedo till people were trying to use it to dunk on the joker movie, always thought of it as "that generic dadrock sports song" on this side of the pond. like it was unironically used in the american office
Not just hockey games... that song is extremely ubiquitous in all American sports, and a very small percentage of Americans will have any idea who Gary Glitter is at all.
I mean, the song is still in heavy rotation on classic rock radio stations and at sports venues, so it's not like he hasn't been getting paid while behind bars regardless. The song is going to outlive him, and almost quite literally since he's still got plenty of time left on his sentence.
Song has a different context in the states.
I went to some sports games in the US and was surprised they were playing it.
I went to some sports games in the US and was surprised they were playing it.
I think a lot of Joker fans have gone from being sick of it to laughing about it.
Feels like the clumsiest attempt to be edgy in the entire film.
Film explores childhood abuse as a theme (in a very shallow way), then scores Joker's apotheosis with Garry Glitter.
I struggle to believe it was an accident. It's really not hard to google the name of someone you are putting on a film soundtrack.
Edit: Really curious to hear how "has a different context in the US" is anything but a flimsy excuse. Why does it being popular in some sporting contexts mean Gary Glitter is not a pedo?
And tbh I don't actually think anything else about this film is particularly controversial.
Film explores childhood abuse as a theme (in a very shallow way), then scores Joker's apotheosis with Garry Glitter.
I struggle to believe it was an accident. It's really not hard to google the name of someone you are putting on a film soundtrack.
Edit: Really curious to hear how "has a different context in the US" is anything but a flimsy excuse. Why does it being popular in some sporting contexts mean Gary Glitter is not a pedo?
And tbh I don't actually think anything else about this film is particularly controversial.
Yeah, this song is burned in to my brain as one of the the hockey songs from my youth. I had no idea the background on it.
Yeah, but does Glitter get a check every time they play it at a sporting event? Considering his relatively recent arrests, some people would rather not support him.
I mean I think aside from some folks in the media sounding massive alarm bells the only people taking the threat unnecessarily seriously were the NYPD, but the NYPD has a history of overreacting to crimes and that's why they are so universally reviled.
I've recently come to realize that I have the perfect analogy why the movie shouldn't have been made -- because I think it's vapid, shallow, and fails to understand what makes the character compelling. It's the Jim Carrey in: Sonic the Hedgehog of comic book movies.
it exploits it because it does not talk about the issue more deeply?
What the fuck are you even talking about? And I fucking hated the movie.
Just as tip, if you did no like something you can't just fabricate accusations
I heard there's a scene where Joker tosses plastic in the trash instead of recycling it. I tipped the FBI about it.
You just uncovered the secret message, you're going to be sworn in by the President any moment now.
Had no idea that was a Gary Glitter song and I've been hearing it in arenas for 30+ years.
Care to elaborate on that, Detective? Todd Phillips is on his way to being a convicted pedophile? Did I miss some news or something? Am I misinterpreting this comment?
I don't think anyone is suggesting that somehow Gary Glitter isn't a pedophile, but I don't think that his conviction made many waves outside of the UK, so a lot of folks plain don't know about what happened to him after he put out that song. As far as they're concerned, they're subconsciously shouting HEY at the mere thought of the song being in their head.
This is like the boy who cried wolf. Everyone is just going to groan at this sort of Joker news at this point.
Theoretically he does. Any venue that plays music has to pay performance fees that allegedly get paid out to music artists.
I found the coincidence pretty hilarious since i was aware of what a creep the artist was when i saw that scene
I doubt it was intentional though. To rectify this they should just replace the song on the home release with something else of equal 'hype/empowering' effect
Also dude's caking over all the sport events that play this track
I doubt it was intentional though. To rectify this they should just replace the song on the home release with something else of equal 'hype/empowering' effect
Also dude's caking over all the sport events that play this track
Kind of frustrating that so many people (rightly!) told people spreading moral panic etc to wait and see the film, and form an opinion based on the content of the film. Here people are forming opinions based on the content of the film, and apparently that is now unacceptable too.
Why is this movie the wake up call for action against this guy/song? You can purchase it on iTunes and stream it on Spotify. Hell on Spotify they point out he was convicted in the artists bio but still lets you stream and ultimately give money to him.
So I'm really confused as to what the proper outcome is for situations like this....
So I'm really confused as to what the proper outcome is for situations like this....
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It was more a comment on how the director has tried to present the film as a piece of brilliant art under siege. Most of the "controversy" has been fed by him, rather than any external factors.
I mean, when the guy is going out there saying that woke culture killed comedy, and you can't be funny anymore, it's hard not to see some of this stuff as trollish rather than anything else.
Want to see a solid film about someone getting pushed to the breaking point, and snapping? Go see Falling Down.
Dumb question maybe but is this still a thing? I was under the assumption that that song has been getting phased out of American sports in recent years. I remember it being EVERYWHERE for sports when I was a kid but I can't remember the last time I've actually heard it during a sporting event. Might just be my experience though.
I can see it now. "Film changes music trying to hide they fact it supported a pedo"