If it's a good movie, is it really a "waste of time"?
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JOKER - Teaser Trailer
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And yet he appears exclusively in super hero comics. Weird.
And don't give me that "Batman's not a super hero either" bullshit. For all intents and purposes, he's a super hero.
I wasn't particularly impressed and it looks ''ok''.
The cinematography is nice though.
Edit: hopefully he turns into Joker at least halfway through the film that looks like the fun part of this.
The cinematography is nice though.
Edit: hopefully he turns into Joker at least halfway through the film that looks like the fun part of this.
He's not a hero. And he's not super. He's a psychotic madman. Sadly, a character like him could fit into the real world.
an adaptation can be its own thing. it doesn't need to be defined by its relation to something else, even its source material.
My response:
Or the human portrayal of a descent into complete psychotic madness amplifies the disturbing nature of the character to a point where people are deeply unsettled by the fact that a person like that could exist.
Every generation thinks the same thing... because they are SO special and unique. See also Fight Club and Taxi Driver.
Honestly, I wasn't too hot on it the first time. After a couple of viewings though, damn, it really is one of the best trailers I've seen in years.
Movie might be just ok but this trailer was fantastic.
Movie might be just ok but this trailer was fantastic.
Good ones at least, the majority of the trailers seem to follow the same editing rulebook of bad trailers.
I'd wait till it comes out before comparing it to Taxi Driver in any way. Taxi Driver is one of the greatest films of all time. Just because it aims for the same tone and themes doesn't mean it succeeds.
The amusing thing is I can't tell if you're talking about Batman or Joker because they'd both qualify.
If only that "both sides of the same coin" thing had been discussed endlessly before now! Oh wait...
Regardless, Batman is a billionaire that fights crime. The Joker is far more possible and as he seems to be portrayed in this trailer would fit in with the other well known serial killers.
Do you guys think they'll play out that scene he did in The Dark Knight Returns where he murders everyone on set when he was on a late night show in the scene where we see Robert De Niro in the trailer? (Or perhaps in the movie at all) It'd be crazy if so.
Yeesh chill with the snapping tongue dude.
That's the whole reason this movie even exists. The people working on this aren't doing a comic book movie. He may wear clown makeup and have a sinister laugh, but he isn't going to be some criminal mastermind with a grand plan to swamp Gotham in laughing gas.
This is clearly about a mentally ill and unstable adult who loses his mother, his anchor, and as he descends further into madness without her, rather than help him, the world begins to idolise him (as shown by the people with "Jokerface") because, really, it's as broken as he is and his desire to "bring laughter and joy to the world" is twisted into something monstrous.
It looks like it could be something special. Definitely a mix of Taxi Driver and King of Comedy from the looks of it.
Figuring Joker kills the entire audience there somehow.
Figuring Joker kills the entire audience there somehow.
Of course, and if the movie's ultimately good, it won't matter, but the trailer is so serious and the source material is so silly that I personally find it odd. It would be like if there was an intimate relationship drama about divorce set in the Harry Potter universe and all the characters were muggles. Sure you CAN do it, and maybe it'll be good, but why even bother setting it in that universe to begin with?
That said, it's just my initial reaction to the trailer. I'm not a Todd Phillips fan, but I'm keeping an open mind because I'm sure Joaquin Phoenix is gonna kill this shit.
Cool. Though I'm not so sure about Todd Phillips being a "brilliant writer/director" haha
watched it this morning and didnt know what to make of the trailer.
I just thought "I'm not sure how they're going to align this loser dude = super villian". He can barely function in society.
I just thought "I'm not sure how they're going to align this loser dude = super villian". He can barely function in society.
Holy shit
Way better than I expected. Looking forward to this! Octobre is also the perfect month for this.
Way better than I expected. Looking forward to this! Octobre is also the perfect month for this.
I mean... that's how a lot of real-life villains are born.
This looks excellent. Treating comic book movies as its own genre with specific formats, rules, etc is honestly something I feel is holding them back, and just making comic book inspired films that cover all sorts of genres and the entire spectrum of cinematography is the next step forward. I hope this succeeds in a way that allows more of these kind of endeavours in the future.
It feels like you're coming in here to aggressively stake your claim that you don't take super hero/villain movies as seriously as other people do.
Which is weird.
Superhero movies have taken over the film world, of course they're going to keep getting darker, grittier, deeper, more serious, etc. I personally love it!
Same. I am tired of Marvel movies, but there is such a rich plethora of characters and stories that can be told using the medium as inspiration that just has me hopeful for more more like this, Logan, and Spider-Verse.
If they kill this Joker off? Then yes it's a waste of time, at least for me.
Oh holy shit, just browsed through the dude's movies. What the hell is this track record?
The last time I had this feeling it was when I saw the first teaser for Logan . We all know how that turned out
Please.
THis has never happened ever, every time you give a backstory to a well known charterer that character is ruined. It's not evil anymore, it's just another victim.
Rubbish
I loved the first Hangover, Old School, Starsky and Hutch, and War Dogs. So I should be good.
legitimately had no idea Todd Philips had a hand in Borat until this post. maybe I was wrong about him.
Officially on the hype train