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Joker Wins Best Film At Venice
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This is sort of why I like that the DCEU crash and burned. Not everything needs to be in a cohesive extended universe, so this is allowed to be its own thing divorced from anything else and not beholden to a style or any kind of standard so that it "meshes". That lets something like this take risks and be actual art while the MCU will simply keep putting out toy movies that won't tarnish the brand.
It's not the film's fault that the Joker became a meme during the time that it was being made, and most of the world doesn't even know about the meme.
Unless the film really is a cynical, hateful turd, this pre-release backlash is gonna seem super weird in a few years once the meme is long forgotten.
Unless the film really is a cynical, hateful turd, this pre-release backlash is gonna seem super weird in a few years once the meme is long forgotten.
I really don't understand why people give this guy any legitimacy. He's always got some kind of grudge or agenda. It's tiring. Just ignore him like I do.
Seeing Joker among those other names is a trip.
I really wish this movie could have been named "A Joker Sat on a Bench Reflecting on Society"
Nothing? I just don't feel like arguing my 100% accurate assessment of the film with people who think "movie about sad white man wins award" is some kind of vindication of their opinion of a movie they haven't seen. "Joker and Polanski win top honors" is maybe not the headline to gloat about.
I think his opinions are mostly very good and he's one of the best film writers in the business, his reviews are a joy to read a lot of the times, but a lot of his statements about Joker made me believe that he's too hung up on potential reactions of other societal groups rather than his own.
It's Indiewire, after all. Sometimes they are spot on, other times you can't believe you even visit the site.
just watch korean cinema, french cinema, chinese cinema, polish cinema, spanish cinema ... you know. lol not everything has to be so USA centered
calling it: joker wins BO and endgame isn't nominated. the next decade of comic book movie discussions are going to be lit. absolutely lit. my blood hasn't burned this intense in a long time.
Sorry, not used the spoiler quote before. Didn't work out when I previewed. My desperate attempt at humour.
I'm still not convinced. Intrigued to see it though.
All these society jokes/comments got real old real quick.
All these society jokes/comments got real old real quick.
Why would endgame be nominated for anything other than like VFX tho. Im sure they are well aware it wont get much attention there outside of technical noms
BP did win a few and I don't think budget factors much into Oscar winners. The last three best pictures have all been pretty far under Joker's budget.
All the Midwestern guys with Joker tattoos will be taking queues from Phoenix and not Ledger from now on and honestly that's the biggest change.
I swear this movie is helping me separate those who review movies as movies rather than those who score a movie based on their personal non-movie related views
movie twitter equating Joker movie with 2 controversial men. You can already tell what narrative they are trying to manufacture.
movie twitter equating Joker movie with 2 controversial men. You can already tell what narrative they are trying to manufacture.
oh come on. it's plainly obvious there is a huge desire to see endgame nominated and actually win from the mcu fandom.
Today was an important moment in film history, a before and after. DC now makes films (dare I even say Kino? ) and Marvel makes movies (cape-flicks). Money doesn't matter anymore, Joker burnt all of it. Transcendence has been achieved. I'm drunk.
That movie needs more love. Lynne Ramsey and Joaquin had an interesting process. I really love Joaquin's physicality and how he challenges his own body. No actor in Hollywood is doing that. He is almost like a dancer, contorting in every shape to tell something about the character's inner life.
Edit: outside of motion capture artists like Andy Serkis obviously
That movie needs more love. Lynne Ramsey and Joaquin had an interesting process. I really love Joaquin's physicality and how he challenges his own body. No actor in Hollywood is doing that. He is almost like a dancer, contorting in every shape to tell something about the character's inner life.
Edit: outside of motion capture artists like Andy Serkis obviously
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The tantrum from movie critics on twitter is funny. No different from the outrage and infighting in review threads here. I guess they are torn on it because of the comics roots. I wonder if their opinion would have been different if Phoenix was simply playing a common dude and not a well known comic antagonist.
Naw. Plenty expect this movie to signal boost the alt-right and inspire violence.
