So Maker just showed up in Future Foundation so anyone who still had there bets on Maker being Xavier can probably cash in there chips now.
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Yeah, I don't think she was talking literally there. Magneto basically said the same thing in HOX #1, so I'm pretty sure that's what it was.
He's also a significant part of absolute carnage. Only crazy people were thinking that to begin with.
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I wonder if we have another candidate for the Librarian now.
Still no Sinister, but I bet we see him involved in Xavier's current program. Also, when someone on twitter pointed out that Sinister wasnt a mutant, Hickman said wait and see.
This has to end up as the Xpeople's new status quo, so maybe we see a resolution to this madness, Moira gets her 11th life, and the Xmen restart Secret Wars style with changes here and there.
Still no Sinister, but I bet we see him involved in Xavier's current program. Also, when someone on twitter pointed out that Sinister wasnt a mutant, Hickman said wait and see.
This has to end up as the Xpeople's new status quo, so maybe we see a resolution to this madness, Moira gets her 11th life, and the Xmen restart Secret Wars style with changes here and there.
So how does Moira meeting Xavier at age 17 in life 10 and House of X at age 50 mesh with the 10 year timeline between Moira meeting Xavier and House of X shown in PoX?
Also I'm not really an X-Men buff but were the Magneto and Apocalypse timelines supposed to be House of M and Age of Apocalypse? I'm guessing no since nobody has brought that up yet and people here seem to have read a whole lot more X-Men than me.
Also I'm not really an X-Men buff but were the Magneto and Apocalypse timelines supposed to be House of M and Age of Apocalypse? I'm guessing no since nobody has brought that up yet and people here seem to have read a whole lot more X-Men than me.
It's basically serial immortality, ie when you die you are instead reborn in a new body. Just with mixed in time travel.
THere are both immortal mutants and time traveling mutants so basically she just has a very limited form of both those powers.
Not the reincarnation, but the "invisible" mutant powet made me think of Bink and the old Xanth books. Everyone in Xanth has a power, cept Bink. They figure out his power is a mage-strong antimagic that keeps him hidden by its nature.
As for Age of Apoc and House of M, nope, these are completely different timelines that went down very differently.
Thanks. Knew about immortality but didnt know that time travel was also a mutant power
that is easy. Um. Okay actually that is wierd if you consider year 1 to be the year he met Moria. But based on what we have discussed here I think year one would be the actual formation of the X-Men aka X-Men #1. But considering the placement of things like the birth of Proteus the formation of the X-Men is more likely around when she was 42 or 43.
No. The House of M and Age of Apocalypse are alternate realities, what Moria is experiencing is a single timeline/reality but on repeat.
But PoX #1 opens with Moira meeting Charles at the fair and it's explicitly labeled as X0, and that event is on the life 10 timeline in HoX #2 at year 17, which is 35 years before House of X according to that timeline. 🤔
You are indeed right. Good catch.
I had forgotten about that little captain on the top of the page at the fair.
Hickman is whispering sweet nothings and grand tales into our ears and we keep begging for more weekly
I think you're on to something. All three working together would be revolutionary. Love this.
Hickman, I need an issue everyday.
Thank you!
So many things to explore in this series, going by the covers, HoX #5 and PoX #5 should be very interesting.
It does say "Year Ten. The World"
Maybe it has to do with the artificial time properties inside The World of the Weapon Plus Program
Hot take: all of this is a simulation inside the world with "Moira" going over multiple timelines and permutations to determine the best outcome for mutants.
Anyone else amazed by how this series has made the freaking info-graphics some of the most exciting parts?
as i said to a friend, i basically read that as Hickman calling it the "even i aint touching that shit" decade
Honestly, we do. After the shit we've had to put up with in X-Men books for years now.
The simulation theory is interesting and plausible, but I think Moira being a mutant is real either way.
That, along with the geopolitical setup of Krakoa, are things I think are gonna stick going into the new status quo. That seems like the stuff editorial needed to be sold on.
That, along with the geopolitical setup of Krakoa, are things I think are gonna stick going into the new status quo. That seems like the stuff editorial needed to be sold on.
That book stays with you, I read it this morning and I haven't thought about anything else.
X-Men in general....(Looks at Fox)
It's interesting, because I saw it as a confirmation that Phoenix Force Five happened and that Scott definitely offed Chuck, and we should know that.
I kinda wondered if it was the lost decade because it was when hope was lost.
Though my joke is that's why it's only been 10 years since the X-Men formed... They erased 10 years.
Though my joke is that's why it's only been 10 years since the X-Men formed... They erased 10 years.
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I just finished it, and literally ran from my reading room to where my wife was cross-stitching and told her she had to read it now.
Holy shit. I need to collect myself so that I can actually think about this.
Holy shit. I need to collect myself so that I can actually think about this.
It would be in her best interest to lie to Moira. It forces Moira to make the most of every life, and really REALLY think about what is most important to her. In the timeline where Pyro killed her, she hadn't fully thought out creating the cure. If she had a limited number of tries, she'd be more likely to do more drastic things to survive.
Manhattan becomes addicted to fucking with supermans past, he is now the villain.
Manhattan becomes addicted to fucking with the X-Mens past, he joins the largest clubs in comics writing.
Even after accidentally coming in here this morning and seeing spoilers, reading this thing was wild. I'm so glad these books are coming weekly because having to wait a month in between each one would be painful.
I suppose it's significant that Hickman glossed over Moira's sixth life and didn't show us how her ninth with Apocalypse ended?
I suppose it's significant that Hickman glossed over Moira's sixth life and didn't show us how her ninth with Apocalypse ended?
oh definitely.
Hickman leaving small spaces like that is basically putting up a giant neon sign saying "IMPORTANT SHIT WAS HERE!!"
So here is a question I don't think has been asked. Why did Moria fake her own death in timeline 10?
Assuming it is the 616 (there are some discrepancies in the timeline that makes me not 100% sure) she hasn't been seen since before Scott and Emma took over the school (actually significantly longer in 616)
So what do we think she's up to?
Assuming it is the 616 (there are some discrepancies in the timeline that makes me not 100% sure) she hasn't been seen since before Scott and Emma took over the school (actually significantly longer in 616)
So what do we think she's up to?
Given that machine life is shown to be an evolutionary inevitability in this issue I'm betting that the war against the man/machine alliance in PoX #1 is ended due to mutantions occuring in machine life, with those mutant machines aiding the mutants. Nimrod is probably a mutant machine too.
Though I guess the Danger Room turned into a mutant in Whedon's run so there may be mutant machines already.
Though I guess the Danger Room turned into a mutant in Whedon's run so there may be mutant machines already.
And Cerebro did as well. We'll at least gained sentience and grew beyond its programming. But that's an era we don't like to talk about. Except when Yost and Kyle use elements from it.
I was laughing at just how many interesting storylines Hickman was seemingly throwing away or glossing over. Though I definitely think many of them can be explored further in the future, I wonder what storytelling method will be used.
There are still 7 issues left, I am sure we'll see more of those timelines before were are done.
I read it in my car this morning. I legit said "WHAT?" out loud when I read
"Moira's second life began..."
