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Independent thought alarm on that post demondance!

And how can having purple hair label someone a Marxist LMAO.
Anyone they deem to be part of the SJW/PC outrage culture gone awry gets that bullshit label.

You don't remember all the idiots proclaiming Obama, the president of the fucking United States, to be a Marxist and secret commie?
 
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You are free to eat well and take care of yourself in the US. Living a long and healthy life is up to you. Sadly, so is living an unhealthy one.

This is probably the stupidest post on this website. Congratulations. The utter ignorance to proudly post this is astonishing and speaks of your lack of any experience with the real world.

Yes, facing reality is scary, and burying your head in the sand is your choice, as is remaining ignorant, but eventually, you will have to face the truth: You have zero control over when you get sick, when you get hit by a car from a drunk driver, shattering your frail bones in sixty places and crippling you for life, or when your body just decides to stop working properly, or when a gun nut decides to host a mass shooting involving you. It can happen to YOU, ANY TIME, regardless how you live. It literally is outside your control.

No amount of grandstanding about having a ~choice~ to live healthy will change this.

And this is why every civilized country has proper healthcare. Because that is the only sane solution.
 

Xenon

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This is probably the stupidest post on this website. Congratulations. The utter ignorance to proudly post this is astonishing and speaks of your lack of any experience with the real world.

Yes, facing reality is scary, and burying your head in the sand is your choice, as is remaining ignorant, but eventually, you will have to face the truth: You have zero control over when you get sick, when you get hit by a car from a drunk driver, shattering your frail bones in sixty places and crippling you for life, or when your body just decides to stop working properly, or when a gun nut decides to host a mass shooting involving you. It can happen to YOU, ANY TIME, regardless how you live. It literally is outside your control.

No amount of grandstanding about having a ~choice~ to live healthy will change this.

And this is why every civilized country has proper healthcare. Because that is the only sane solution.

In almost all instances those people would all be cared for by emergency services. Now paying for it thats a completely different story. I also believe that we should be working toward universal healthcare in this country. But it needs to be done slowly and we have to have a plan to phase out the behemoth that is the insurance companies that are currently ingrained into our health system. Also this really has nothing to do with the response you quoted which has more to do with America's excess and the unhealthy life styles it promotes. So before you call something stupid you should at least try and put a little more effort in to understand the context of the post you're insulting...

As far as people trying to prop up Marxism by listing the failures of Christian influenced capitalist societies while ignoring the gross failures and horrors of it in practice, you're just pimping a fantasy. This has nothing to do with which one is morally better, just what is humanly possible. Trying to fit a Marxist template on people that exist today is simply incompatable. History has proven this.
 

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In almost all instances those people would all be cared for by emergency services. Now paying for it thats a completely different story. I also believe that we should be working toward universal healthcare in this country. But it needs to be done slowly and we have to have a plan to phase out the behemoth that is the insurance companies that are currently ingrained into our health system. Also this really has nothing to do with the response you quoted which has more to do with America's excess and the unhealthy life styles it promotes. So before you call something stupid you should at least try and put a little more effort in to understand the context of the post you're insulting...

As far as people trying to prop up Marxism by listing the failures of Christian influenced capitalist societies while ignoring the gross failures and horrors of it in practice, you're just pimping a fantasy. This has nothing to do with which one is morally better, just what is humanly possible. Trying to fit a Marxist template on people that exist today is simply incompatable. History has proven this.

Look, man, there are enough real criticisms to make of Marxist theory and failed communist states but the whole "Marxism isn't compatible with human nature" sentiment is just an empty cliché. Every system of government imposes a framework of rules and values that contradicts humanity's baser impulses. That's fundamentally what government is. Capitalist societies are no different.
 
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Jesus Christ. Somehow he links climate change to the holocaust...

Edit: oh. So he takes some outlier and generalizes.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/climate-deniers-youre-climate-deniers-deal-with-it/

Myron Ebell bristles at the notion that he is often called a "climate denier."

"It's meant to be offensive," he said at an early February panel discussionon environmental journalism in the Trump Era. "It's meant to tie …. some people to Holocaust denial."

Myron Ebell's protestations about being likened to a holocaust denier aren't completely without merit. Some advocates of climate change action have indeed gone there, likening climate denial to holocaust denial. Ellen Goodman, the Pulitzer-winning former Boston Globe columnist, wrote in 2007, "Let's just say that global warming deniers are now on a par with Holocaust deniers, though one denies the past and the other denies the present and future."

But this doesn't represent the climate community. Outliers on both sides absurdly play the Hitler card, like the Heartland Institute's ill-conceived billboards likening climate activists to the Führer, Osama bin Laden and the Unabomber.

Physicist Joe Romm provides a more responsible perspective: "Holocaust deniers ….. are very marginalized. The climate science deniers, however, are very different and far more worrisome…. They are not marginalized, but rather very well-funded and treated quite seriously by the status quo media. They are trying to persuade people not to take action on a problem that has not yet become catastrophic, but which will certainly do so if we listen to them and delay acting much longer."
 
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I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by anything that comes out of Jordan Peterson, but it blows my mind that a psychology professor misunderstands the application of the concept of denial. That he can only see the use of the term "denier" in the context of Holocaust denial tells you all you need to know about him.
 

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People actually pay concert ticket prices to watch this mother fucker lie for 2 hours. He's touring with Dave Rubin
 

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People actually pay concert ticket prices to watch this mother fucker lie for 2 hours. He's touring with Dave Rubin

Yeah, he's coming to my city/country next year. Was disappointed to see like 6 of my friends on Facebook be interested in the event (somehow they're all minorities though, which makes me think maybe they haven't really paid attention to his rhetoric...).
 

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Yeah, he's coming to my city/country next year. Was disappointed to see like 6 of my friends on Facebook be interested in the event (somehow they're all minorities though, which makes me think maybe they haven't really paid attention to his rhetoric...).

Yeah same. Lauren Southern recently came also, she was quickly deplatformed. I doubt Peterson will warrant the same level of controversy, but I hope there is at least some pushback
 

Superking

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Sure look they should look at the great current examples of Marxism in action...

  • China (People's Republic of China) ...
  • Cuba (Republic of Cuba) ...
  • Laos (Lao People's Democratic Republic) ...
  • North Korea (DPRK, Democratic People's Republic of Korea) ...
  • Vietnam (Socialist Republic of Vietnam) ...
These countries have rich history exemplifying the virtues of Marxism. =\ People are banging down the doors to migrate there compared to nations that were based on Christian beliefs. But yes all human history is filled with horrors. Whatabouting using human those examples is pointless. Until Marxism has it's success story, its a flawed ideal that humans can never fulfill.

I forget, is this dude supposed to be the resident lobster? Cause he sure seems to be well trained in the crustacean arts.
 

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Oh nice, now he just spreads christian propagenda, just in cases that this wasn't obvious enough.
 

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"Hey kids, you know what's really righteous? Jesus!"
-Jordan Peterson, Lobster Overlord
 

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Why are people clapping for fucks sake.

It's weird. My understanding has always been that education about effects has been the primary useful tool for preventing addictive behaviors for things like drugs. I don't see any obvious reason pornography would be any different. But I'm also not completely sure what kind of outcome he's even arguing for, since things like condom use for STD and pregnancy prevention is a different issue from birth control anyway, and there's nothing inherently unethical about masturbation anyway
 

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It's weird. My understanding has always been that education about effects has been the primary useful tool for preventing addictive behaviors for things like drugs. I don't see any obvious reason pornography would be any different. But I'm also not completely sure what kind of outcome he's even arguing for, since things like condom use for STD and pregnancy prevention is a different issue from birth control anyway, and there's nothing inherently unethical about masturbation anyway

His odd conservatism is never acknowledged for some reason. He must masturbate to the 1950's nuclear garbo family unit.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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But Christian propaganda? That's a new one to me.

He just seems to throw thinly veiled alt-right bullshit at a wall and make it sound smart to dumb people.
He is a Christian conservative. He just tends to obfuscate a lot of his views behind a giant wall of word puke so he can play to more portions of the Venn diagram that is alt-right/conservative/classic liberal.
 

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FFS!

The goal post moving from people like this is forever frustrating.

Apparently the true meaning to people like Peterson's comments is always a sentence away.

Fan: "Quote out of context, bet he followed up with something that completely contradicts what you showed yet is still somehow superbly profound"

Normal human: "No, he said this which doubles down on my example"

Fan: "And he probably tore it apart after that i bet?!"

NH: "No, he then came out with a tattoo on his face saying he believes this 100%"

Fan: "You just cant understand his pure genius"

NH: *Shoots self*
 

mael

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I think I got the interview with the French journalist that caused Lobster Daddy to freak out earlier


Peterson being Peterson,
he basically put words in Martin Weill's (and feminists) mouth and have a problem when someone quote him because that's "putting words in his mouth".
 
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I think I got the interview with the French journalist that caused Lobster Daddy to freak out earlier


Peterson being Peterson,
he basically put words in Martin Weill's (and feminists) mouth and have a problem when someone quote him because that's "putting words in his mouth".


In what world don't women die in war? Brings up Maoists wearing uniforms to lower sexual assault? Does he have any kind of proof for that? Not to mention that wearing uniforms in the military doesn't seem to stop sexual harrasment.

Preaches cool heads and debate, gets constantly angry at everything.

Man Daddy Peterson is pulling in the cash.
 

mael

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This interview from last october IS the one that pushed Peterson to write this article
Jordan Peterson: It's 2:39 a.m. in Oslo and this irritating man has pushed me too far
That I mentioned in this post
We probably had this article shared before about Peterson discovering the NPC meme.
If you want the article source from Peterson's own fingers on the keyboard, it's here.
Apparently it's because he interacted with a French journalist and I'm dying to see the journalist that didn't just roll over like US media is known to do.
 
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I honestly don't think the interviews that good? Sure it's entertaining from a front of watching Peterson practically start crying because he's quoted then denies what he said when one of the best parts of the Vice interview is him being locked down and having to admit that was what he said. At the same time he does nothing new and bring up a bunch of "facts" to justify his positions when I'm sure if you researched them they'd prove to be false.

A hard interview with Peterson should just be someone bringing evidence to debunk all the times he blatantly lies about fields he knows nothing about. From Marxism, to feminism (I mean, the patriarchy only being brought up in the last 10 years? What the fuck), to sexual psychology, to gender science, or whatever. Letting him say shit like "The radical left see sex as a social construct" means the interview isn't hard because you're letting him spout blatant bullshit.
 

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I honestly don't think the interviews that good? Sure it's entertaining from a front of watching Peterson practically start crying because he's quoted then denies what he said when one of the best parts of the Vice interview is him being locked down and having to admit that was what he said. At the same time he does nothing new and bring up a bunch of "facts" to justify his positions when I'm sure if you researched them they'd prove to be false.

A hard interview with Peterson should just be someone bringing evidence to debunk all the times he blatantly lies about fields he knows nothing about. From Marxism, to feminism (I mean, the patriarchy only being brought up in the last 10 years? What the fuck), to sexual psychology, to gender science, or whatever. Letting him say shit like "The radical left see sex as a social construct" means the interview isn't hard because you're letting him spout blatant bullshit.

Would be nice, but he's basically refused to debate anyone that would actually do that very thing.
 

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I like how Peterson was crying about how the interviewer wasn't asking "tough" questions that made him look GOOD.
 

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In a world were Donald Trump is president of the most powerful nation Jordan Peterson as the people preferred intellectual philosopher is not shocking anymore
 
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