thebishop is right, Wikileaks isn't just Assange, it's much bigger than him
Freedom fighters, every one of them!
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Judge jails former Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning for refusing to testify to a grand jury probing Wikileaks.
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Freedom fighters, every one of them!
I'll have to brush up on the Manning saga then, it was long ago.
Snowden made sure his leaks were controlled through releasing it with news outlets and didn't release any infos that would be damaging to unrelated people. Manning didn't. I don't see how they're not both whistleblowers, regardless of what you think of them. With Snowden being the one doing more due diligence with it.
I think, with regard to Wikileaks, that you are oversimplifying a bit. Yes, Wikileaks did well to expose war crimes and rights violations by the American government. But Assange and Wikileaks ultimately became a tool of Putin and the Russians. Assange himself is a bad person too. So there's that.
That is unless a Sanders government would align with Russian interests of course.
Well she's not going to very well come out and say it.
She has an image and reputation to maintain
How could he be worse than what I thought he was?
Thank you Julian, very cool.
Thank you Julian, very cool.
#armchairresisters really want to shut down this accurate, secret information about powerful state and corporate actors
you're simply not brave enough to come into a thread, throw some brainless hot takes and bail
not brave enough!
really, that's all he does. He comes into a thread, posts a few stupid things and flies away while everyone keeps quoting him
This is the bullshit you support
Like this post from you could have been made in good faith in the earlier part of this decade, but Wikileaks has long since made sure we all know they're a Russian tool now.
Even if she didn't have immunity, could she have plead the 5th to avoid having to incriminate herself in the conspiracy to aid Russia and Wikileaks? I think it's a matter of public image for her... she probably likes that there are people still call her a 'hero.' I'd think if she were to be exposed as being part of a conspiracy involving Russia, that would change. It seems so obvious now with WIkileaks... Snowden hides out in Russia? That rent isn't free. And Russians are brilliant people, but they do the legwork on internet trolling. The strategy and language comes from American conspirators.
This is the bullshit you support
Like this post from you could have been made in good faith in the earlier part of this decade, but Wikileaks has long since made sure we all know they're a Russian tool now.
He knows.
He's a troll
Fucking yikes. Straight up clowns in here trying to defend this crap and more.
Thank you Julian, very cool.
She's also partied with the alt right and did escape rooms and shit with them
Then claimed to be gathering intel. Lll
There's plenty of WL material relevant to Canada. Like this one about US/CA policy re tarsands:
https://thinkprogress.org/wikileaks...canadian-tar-sands-oil-pipeline-ac57984aed99/
Or this one about the Canadian government's efforts to gag the press from reporting about warrantless wiretapping of Mohawk nation protesters:
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Canadian_Mohawk_wiretaps_injuncted_stories_2008
You know, when someone is given a court order to appear and testify while still having immunity, and decides not to show up, I would call that being an idiot.
But I guess to some it's being super duper brave to stand up for the racist dude you fell in love with while he used you to get juicy embarrassing ambassador wires
K
They're still a bigoted organization who selectively leaks only to harm select governments.
it's pretty ridiculous. who hasn't ended up in a washington dc escape room surrounded by alt right icons? that's probably the shtick of the escape room. be surrounded by the most repugnant individuals to make you want to escape faster.
Anything from WL about Russia though?
Or are their scrutiny kinda like Trump, you know buddy buddy with tyrants and contempt for democracies.
Thank you Julian, very cool.
This is the bullshit you support
Like this post from you could have been made in good faith in the earlier part of this decade, but Wikileaks has long since made sure we all know they're a Russian tool now.
it's pretty ridiculous. who hasn't ended up in a washington dc escape room surrounded by alt right icons? that's probably the shtick of the escape room. be surrounded by the most repugnant individuals to make you want to escape faster.
Just chilling
Can I use Get Out rules for this escape room? Will I be allowed weapons?it's pretty ridiculous. who hasn't ended up in a washington dc escape room surrounded by alt right icons? that's probably the shtick of the escape room. be surrounded by the most repugnant individuals to make you want to escape faster.
It would be really alarming if these people were more than spectators to politics. But it's still a frightening indication of where mainstream American thought is at across the bipartisan spectrum. Like all these people who believe in the Trump-Russia-Wikileaks conspiracy don't even notice the cognitive dissonance that they're cheering on President Trump's (with help from his buddy Mike Pompeo) aggressive effort to prosecute Assange.
You should stop trying, the majority of people here are woefully ignorant of what Manning actually leaked. And, have no knowledge of what a grand jury proceeding entails and the full activities of Wikileaks.
All said and done, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Your 1st, 4th, and 5th Amendment rights are going to help you in a grand jury proceeding.
Aren't you supposed to get some sort of memo from your handler about terms not to use outside of alt-right echo chambers?
Literally two words and you're down ever having credibility on this site again. You're going to get fired at this rate.
1st Amendment: Free Speech doesn't protect you from not testifying to a grand jury with the agreement of immunity with cooperation.
4th Amendment
This isn't a search or seizure.
6th Amendment
In the case of the grand jury, Chelsea isn't the accused so this doesn't work either.
4th Amendment
This isn't a search or seizure.
6th Amendment
In the case of the grand jury, Chelsea isn't the accused so this doesn't work either.
There's basically no reasonable defense for the contempt here. She could show up and plead the fifth. If they were a Russian cutout then her defense at the time boils down to ignorance. Also no defense but wouldn't change her commutation.
The thing I can't figure out is what they think she knows that would warrant this testimony in the first place. Are they questioning every one of Wikileaks' sources?
What an idiot.
If she had principles shed be leaking the shady shit Wikileaks is up to its neck in as well.
If she had principles shed be leaking the shady shit Wikileaks is up to its neck in as well.
When your principles involve sending yourself to prison to protect an arm of Russian intelligence, they're pretty bad ones.