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July Wrasslin' |OT| Fuck! This! SHIT!
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People love to latch onto the negative. If a wrestler makes one mistake, you'll hear about it constantly and repetitively on here.
I'm still fine with that
Until someone decides to bring her in as she's now #1 heel
Look, I'm sorry, man.
Its just I lived through excruciating eras of both TNA and WWE waiting for something like AEW to come along and finally do it right. Its made me very cynical so when someone gives me hope and does something ridiculous with it, it triggers that part of me. I get annoyed, I get defensive and want to distance myself from it because I'm tired of giving promotions chances only for them to slip on a banana peel and run into mistakes they should have seen coming.
Its the last chance to see an alternative done right. If they fuck this up, its over. Its just going to be the Indies or NJPW forever as WWE continues to consume and dilute everything special about good wrestling at a rapid pace.
Maybe I'm harder on them than I should be but thats becuase I have higher expectations for them than any company since WCW. But I'm still here with them, I like what they've been doing and I've enjoyed the shows.
I don't think it's because people don't like AEW, it's more like people WANT AEW to succeed, so mistakes like the typos get more attention.
I'd be cool with the tag match if there was something that advanced a larger narrative for their womens division. They bothered to highlight that both Riho and Dr. Britt Baker, DMD are both undefeated. Maybe they get taken to a time limit draw and Britt turns on Riho and blames her for not clinching the win? Setting up a singles rivalry? I don't necessarily object to tag matches and multi-woman matches in and of themselves my problem is that the singles match we've had so far was bad. (Thanks Leva.) And the singles match we'll get Saturday will likely be bad. (Thanks Brandi.) Add to that they aren't really using either BTE or Road To fill any storytelling around the tag/multi-woman matches those matches just kind of come off as "Hey internet, we heard you like them Joshi. Here's some Joshi."
AEW is the only American promotion I currently give a shit about. As others have said, it just hurts a bit to see them making mistakes that even small-time indie companies aren't making. I just want them to do well.
Shoko vs Bea would have been real interesting. Still, I don't think you should see all singles matches as being more important than all tag matches.
One match has the Stardom champ, TJPW champ, Gatoh Ace, and AEW's favourite woman. I don't think the Brandi match is higher profile than it.
It's not the promotion. It's the discourse here. It can get toxic. Shit like implying people would actually go back to GAF for getting frustrated is a good example of that...
It's called a joke. Let's all relax. Everyone here wants AEW to succeed. I'm all about FnP.
I'm pretty hyped for the PPV, I just haven't said anything about the graphics because I don't give a shit about misspells. I'm happy we got another women's match on the card. Hoping they figure a way to do more story for All Out.
Oh, my mistake. I forgot jokes were not up for critique!
I am incredibly excited for this show. Putting Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus in a tag match allows the pairing to be elevated above BTE goofiness. I think it will play to the strengths of both. I expect fuckery between Shawn Spears and MJF in the 3v3 match that will advance the Cody and Shawn Spears story and put MJF over even more. Should be super good. Kenny Omega and Cima should really shine and I think will convey to a potentially unfamiliar audience the appeal of Omega in a way that a brawl with Jericho or a six man tag couldn't. The women's tag match should be legit awesome. Cody and Dustin's promo on Road To left me super excited and between All In, Double or Nothing and Fyter Fest I'm now convinced that Cody is actually better than average. It'll be interesting to see the contrast of less is more and more is more in terms of in-ring styles in that match. Easily my most anticipated match of the show.
That all said.... I got concerns about the overall direction of the womens division, how their social media is being handled and when/if they are sunsetting this intolerable Librarians foolishness. On the last point I recognize they actually have to kill it on screen to do so. I wouldn't expect them to just abandon it without another word WWE style. So in theory, I have no problem with Avalon and Kiss because you can't kill The Librarians without having a match to kill them. But on the womens division and social media stuff those are bigger problems that can't be fixed by booking one blow off match. Don't mistake my concerns for a lack of enthusiasm. I am high on their product right now but that doesn't mean pretending my concerns don't exist.
AEW is not legitimate until they can show that they are down with the clown, that they are a part of the Dark Carnival.
This is why the NJPW US expansion has stalled.
Tanahashi needs to work the Gathering of Juggalos.
This is why the NJPW US expansion has stalled.
Tanahashi needs to work the Gathering of Juggalos.
"Legions." It's one person, dude. AEW is under a microscope and has been since day one because everyone's so desperate for an American show that isn't a joke.
Listen here pal, Lucha Underground needed this kind of enthusiasm!
Telling someone to go back to a place we all left because it was toxic because they're tired of how this threads specific brand of tiring sarcasm is not funny. It's rude, petty and at that persons expense. No one found it funny. And if they did -- they didn't make it known. It's okay to make bad jokes and admit it's bad once called out. Fun and play are welcome, but that's flirting with some bad suggestions that aren't okay to just lump onto a person because you want to make fun of them for being annoyed.
Dustin interview with SI https://www.si.com/wrestling/2019/07/12/aew-dustin-rhodes-fight-fallen-young-bucks-interview
And yes, he talks about The Big Dogs
Dustin said:
And yes, he talks about The Big Dogs
Friend this is serious brother were in a wrasslin war!!!! No fun, no games. Lol
Oh you were serious? My gif was just a playful response but okay. I didnt tell anyone to go anywhere. I wouldn't recommend the worst posters here to go back there. We all just need to take a chill pill. Everything is alright.
You implied they would be going back there. Just felt like it was a bit across the line. You can see how that would come across as toxic to someone already feeling PRETTY jaded about how folks talk about stuff here? Everything is alright. But I think some stuff requires more tact, man. Especially when a regular is feeling pushed out by negativity.
On second thought: AEW is tearing this community apart. He has it coming. GET 'IM, FETO!
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