They were arrested on suspicion of battery and were released, which only indicates that the police do not think they battered anyone.
Jussie Smollett Breaks His Silence After Vicious Attack: 'I'm OK'
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So, did the police take the bottle of bleach to see if the finger prints of the alleged attackers are on it?
Nah, we should be able to discuss it, ad nauseum, as new details, and yes, as new rumors, emerge. Rather than wait for you and Terrell to tell me which part of the CPD or which website I should listen to.
So instead of a circular firing squad, I'll just say that the biggest puzzle to me is the two men and their connection to Jussie. Is it even confirmed that he knew them?
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TMZ right wing?!! Lmao!! They hate Trump and constantly shit on him in every article. One of their staff guys was the one that ripped Kanye to shreds after his slavery comment. They are not even remotely close to being a right wing site. Just read one of their comment sections to see how many rasicts troll them for all the anti right stuff they post.
As long as we’re discussing the facts and not disproved conspiracies, I agree.
TMZ...is...right wing now? This is news to me. What makes you say that?
Do I wait for you and Terrell to tell me which CPD Twitter account is acceptable?
No, of course not. But you should make a reasonable effort to investigate whether something you are questioning hasn’t already been disproven by the investigation before asking questions. I’m not being high and mighty about this either. I did it in a previous thread, then caught myself. There’s a lot of dumb conspiracies flying around this story.
So maybe either that Reddit thing about it being some “lovers quarrel” type thing was true or maybe he did stage it.
The lawyer for the brothers told TMZ that whatever info they had prompted their release.
Was asked was it staged and didn’t confirm or deny.
http://m.tmz.com/#!2019/02/16/jussie-smollett-suspects-lawyer-attack-release/
The lawyer for the brothers told TMZ that whatever info they had prompted their release.
Was asked was it staged and didn’t confirm or deny.
http://m.tmz.com/#!2019/02/16/jussie-smollett-suspects-lawyer-attack-release/
Jussie followed one of them on social media. One of them has a video of themselves working out to one of Jussie's songs. And someone from the show claims they were all close
They hate Trump? Look into the owner. Harvey Levin’s a huge Trump supporter
looks like it's been confirmed by CPD that the two brothers are the guys on camera.
https://abc7chicago.com/5141900/?ex...8d32&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
https://abc7chicago.com/5141900/?ex...8d32&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
Media treating this like an episode of CSI or something.
Continuing to look like Smollett is caught up in something not quite what was stated.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tmz-g...evins-gossip-empire-became-trumps-best-friend
Don't mistake their TV personalities. Levin is a *massive* Trump guy.
No it’s not. It’s not 100% covered in cameras. Even the reports mention how he walks out of view and is off camera for a bit.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/tmz...dit-trumps-sexual-assault-accusers-in-report/
There are rumors they had a calling out but Levin is Trump's long-time friend.
Whose? Jussie's fingerprints on something he owned? Or is the assertion meant to be that he faked the whole thing but still actually had bleach dumped on himself by those guys, leaving traces of their fingerprints (because they were somehow not wearing gloves on one of the coldest nights of the year), and then took it back from them? Is that why fingerprints would matter?
I'm not saying that's totally impossible and could never happen, but I would say it's a lot weirder than the original assertion that a black man was assaulted on the street that people found so outrageous and unbelievable that they immediately had so many questions, so it's a little weird that it's just being presented as obviously suspicious and relevant that a person would have a standard cleaning product in their own home.
Also I think you're underestimating how long it takes to run fingerprints, although I suppose this case is high profile enough everything is being fast tracked.
A crime like this being fast tracked yet thousands of rape kits go untested around the country.
A shame.
The bleach thing is ridiculous for a number of reasons.
But more to the point why is CPD leaking any of this. It's like they want this story to be as messy as possible. We consider Jussie Smollett a victim, but just so you know we did confiscate bleach from his residence...wink wink,.
But more to the point why is CPD leaking any of this. It's like they want this story to be as messy as possible. We consider Jussie Smollett a victim, but just so you know we did confiscate bleach from his residence...wink wink,.
yeah i have no idea where they are going with the bleach thing. Screams CPD PR move
The lawyer didn't say anything of the sort that would lead to this sort of conclusion. In fact, she barely said anything at all besides "My clients will tell their story when the time comes" and she "didn't want to speculate" because "she would be doing a disservice to the truth if she did".
All we know is the police clearly got the wrong people, and if these two men are the ones on camera then Jussie identified the wrong people (not out of the ordinary when dealing with victims being shown photos by police).
Didnt say it was 100% covered. You're not going to that area without being on camera somewhere.
If the two brothers who were extras on Empire and who know Jussie Smollett personally were on camera, that means they were out and about at around 2am in around the same area as Jussie Smollett. So both the brothers and Smollett were out at 2am, and Smollett’s report doesn’t mention that he met up with them at that time.
Is this correct?
Yes you did.
I said “This isn’t the dystopian future were the streets are 100% blanketed in cameras.”
And you replied, “In that area of Chicago? Yes it is. Has to be one of the most surveilled spots in the country.”
Also, you know this as a fact? Has there been research and reviews of all the cameras that show that there is no way to not be on camera in the area?
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Maybe they have a sample from the night of the attack (from his clothes) and they want to compare it to the brand he had vs. the brand the brothers had in their appartment? If they found one matched and the other didn't, that might be relevant?
I'm very aware I'm in wild speculation mode right now...
Dont know what you're quoting but regardless, Chicago is the most surveilled city in the world outside London. They tap into private cameras so every building and street is surveilled and CPD has access to them.
I lived in Jussies building. There's cameras everywhere. There may be parts where you wont appear on camera, but short of teleporting to those spots, you cannot get into the area without being on camera somewhere. It was record cold and 2am on a weekday. Next to no one was outside so the list of anyone theyd have to eliminate would be very short.
The CPD would have to find hard evidence that Smollett paid the brothers to do this.
The likely situation (as it's one that's happened before) is similar to the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing.
Or to be more specific, those involved in the investigation ARE committed to working the case and believe that Smollett is a victim, but officers that are peripheral/adjacent to the investigation who either think they know what's going on or actively don't care about muddying up public perception are feeding the press bad information. We see a lot of that in every high-profile police investigation, people wanting to be a part of the event by any means necessary.
I feel like an explanation that acknowledges the police department isn't a monolith is the smart bet.
I hope to God that this isn't fake. Because if it is his career is over and the alt-right fools will just use this as ammo.
The news has been reporting that only one of the brothers was an extra on the set of Empire, but Smollett follows their joint Instagram account. There have been some articles saying that the brothers and Smollett went to the same gym, but everything else in regards to how well Smollett knows the two brothers has been speculation/gossip so far like this Tweet below with no verified sources of information:
I mean seriously I know this crime/latest arrest involves actors in Empire but this isn't a TV show. If the police had actual evidence the brothers were involved in the attack, regardless of their motives they wouldn't be released right now. Anyway...the footage police used to track down the two brothers was taken at around 1:30-45 am, and the attack according to Smollett occurred at 2:00 am. So they may or may not have been in the area when the attack occured or it's possible they didn't see anything.
Only part I care about, tbh.
Absolutely. It poisons the discussion when these situations actually do occur.
I remember people using this as an example of racial aggression against blacks when Liam Niason confessed about his past racist behavior.
I’m quoting you directly here : https://www.resetera.com/threads/ju...ious-attack-im-ok.97099/page-18#post-17979631
I’ve lived in Chicago as well. I know that area. The perpetrators didn’t necessarily come from his building or even any building in that area. Per the reports Smollett had times when he was not on camera. This isn’t impossible.
It'll be a big ass L for the LBGTQ+ and especially PoC within' those communities, *if this turns out to be a hoax. The way the right will frame this and feed into the suspicions of gay community and emboldening established bigotries against them is just so damaging. As an purported activist, Jussie has dealt a big blow to the actual activisim and efforts of so many people. Very dissapointing if this goes the way it seems to be.
The key info being the rope around Jussie's neck was purchased by the brothers. If true, that's a wrap.
Also shit's about to go down:
Again, stop quoting/referencing these unconfirmed Tweets with no links/sources as fact towards this being a hoax. All hoax talk is speculation/gossip on the part of the people sharing the tweets.
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