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Just a taste of what women might experience online
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I've had to call out people I used to play with often cause they pull shit like this. Staying silent is staying complicit
"Are you a man or a female?" Already know which parts of the internet he floats in with that statement.
When my girlfriend made a gamertag that ends with "Girl", she didn't really know what she was going against. On the one hand, she met a lot of surprisingly polite people (the reasons are obvious, unfortunately), congratulating her every good move. On the other, she got tons of group invites, friend requests for doing nothing, and in some cases some pretty offensive calls. And she is only playing Rocket League online, basically, no other multiplayer game really matters to her. So yeah, I can mentally multiply that for a regular game who also, gasp, plays FPSs like in this video. I can only imagine. Siege has a very toxic community regardless of sex, I can imagine how bad it has to be with girls, considering the amount of votekicks, harassment, teamkills, etc. for the most futile reasons even on male (or not obviously girl) players.
Yeah especially in this game. Siege community is garbage unfortunately. But believe me not only women experience this, we all do. I'm not taking a way anything from this or saying it's okay, but if you think of it that's what we all face while playing online. I won't say people are shit because I met great people online and generalizing anything is wrong. When you meet the kind of these asshole report and mute them to have a good time. Small advice: Don't feed the trolls
Which kills me, because the community started out awesome. People were communicative, helpful, polite, and wanted to win but also have fun.
But of course, like any game that gets popular, that goodness was diluted heavily by the idiots that came over from other big games.
Been playing a lot of MP games this gen and for whatever reason, it really seems like the scum of the earth flock to Siege the most. Didn't expect that when I first started playing tbh. Now if I play with randoms, I just automatically put voice chat on mute for everyone.
Then let's get heavy moderation in then rather than this sexist, and also frequently racist, wild west shit.
To everyone saying "don't feed the trolls " how the fuck is that possible when they start acting like this just after hearing a female voice? The only solution is to stay off the mic, which in certain games does impair gameplay.
How about instead we hold men to act like decent human beings? They only do this because other men don't call them out on their shit.
How about instead we hold men to act like decent human beings? They only do this because other men don't call them out on their shit.
It's disturbing how they fixate on every single detail about her..it really is predatory behavior. Fucking losers
It's sad. The number of toxic idiots is probably pretty small overall, but it takes just a few of them before you want to throw your mic away.
Nah it doesn't happen the same way and with the same intensity for everyone and no they are also not just trolls and no ignoring them is not actually the solution.
"We're not being like this because you're a woman, we're being like this because you're shit".
*gets awarded MVP of the team*
*gets awarded MVP of the team*
There's no way to police speech on XBL/PSN. You are always going to run into toxic individuals regardless of your gender -- the best way to handle these situations is to mute, block, and report. If you engage these people they will consider it a win.
"Don't feed the trolls" aka "hide and bury your own identity to make gamerz feel more comfy while playing their game"
In fairness the Siege community is trash and treat each other like trash in game. I saw the first few seconds of video and knew exactly how it would go.
Didn't think I could roll my eyes this hard, but it's happening.
Ahh yes once again, regardless of your gender, the desire to universalize harassment of women so you can play it off as just part of life is spectacular.
Sadly, Internet anamnimity allows people the freedom to act like the worst versions of themselves, and in some cases, the most honest version of themselves for good or bad. We hold hope out for good fun conversation with good natured ribbing during play sessions. I can't imagine how it feels to lady gamers to have to suffer baseles attacks on their person when simply trying to enjoy a game online.
You act cool and counter whatever they say.
If it they fire back and it keeps going back and forth, ask calmly if they (teammates) want to win this game or bitch around.
If that still doesn't work, you can still mute the others.
Honestly, I think a lot of people shouting "kill yourself" would shut up if you'd just go ahead with something like "why don't you try it first?". Harsh, but there's no reason not to be harsh to people telling you to kys.
That's gotta be the edgiest thing I've read today.
I'm well aware that this is not a magic problem solver, but it's better than getting aggressive (or worst case; cry) because that's the goal of those people.
No matter what game I play, disabling voice chat is the first thing I do, even as being a guy, even text chat is something I turn off very quickly.
I don't think so, it just seems that way because alot of people say the game their playing attracts the most vile, it's probably a sum of something popular that attracts more people and it being competitive, it's the competitivity that brings out the worst and isn't even connected to just video games because there's a lot of aggression in sports as well. Mic up every soccer player and you'll get the same I think.
I don't think so, it just seems that way because alot of people say the game their playing attracts the most vile, it's probably a sum of something popular that attracts more people and it being competitive, it's the competitivity that brings out the worst and isn't even connected to just video games because there's a lot of aggression in sports as well. Mic up every soccer player and you'll get the same I think.
I pretty much only will play without a mic for the rest of my life. I have no desire to voice chat with strangers while playing.
Yuk that's disgusting. As a young (male) adult during my World of Warcraft days (2006-2010), I did countless voicechated PvE with girls, women, mothers, housewifes or single ladies without hearing a tiny fraction of this amount of garbage (I can't speak for them of course). Only creepy (or desperate) message while playing a female avatar.
Hire more people to handle abuse reports to actually hand out bans and then report the result of the investigation to the person who initiated the report. If people see their reports are actually doing something, they will continue to do them and perhaps more often. Taking away their vidyagames is the best way to counter immature assholes and change their behavior.
Yeah, it's disgusting. I had to inform my girlfriend when making a PSN name that it didn't point to her being female.
And the fact I've to do that, is pathetic.
And the fact I've to do that, is pathetic.
Not everyone has this personality. Also it's literally the opposite of the other dudes opinions in this thread because it's literally feeding the trolls.
I do have this personality and your suggestion oesn't work 80% of the time when you're a woman. It also sometimes back fires and gets them making even more extreme misogynistic comments.
If your first response to this is "it happens to all of us" then you are taking away from this. You're not helping, you are in fact, actively harming.
Yes, this kind of barely comprehensible nonsense insult dribble happens to lots of people but women get it all the time. They don't have to "do" anything to encounter it other than be recognizable as a woman.
That's the difference and by trying to minimise it as "just a thing that happens" you are empowering the idiots who do it. Try instead to call out anyone you hear doing it, so at least there is some resistance.
Also be supportive of any abused group who makes a point of how crappy their lot in the gaming space is.
I remember watching a video about women who deal with this kind of BS. They all said that having other people call that shit out while they're playing would help. Of course on r/games that led to a bunch of men calling them dumb and that it wouldn't work.
Do you think women haven't actually tried doing what you suggested?
It's been useless.
Developers need to own up and take charge with better moderation and outright ban accounts who don't comply. Not just temporary suspensions or pretending there's no problem. Drive these people out.
I once saw this myself when playing Left 4 Dead 2 with a friend of mine. This guy kept talking to her via text chat through the entire campaign, and it was a versus match, so essentially we played through the campaign twice.
No matter what I or she said to him, he wouldn't stop. Eventually he started to get aggressive in his comments, only to be completely crushed by her in-game every single time. This part was glorious, but it would all have been better if he'd never been a dickhead in the first place.
No matter what I or she said to him, he wouldn't stop. Eventually he started to get aggressive in his comments, only to be completely crushed by her in-game every single time. This part was glorious, but it would all have been better if he'd never been a dickhead in the first place.
Have been playing with a female best friend on Xbox Live since Halo 2 and I've seen this soooo much. Luckily, she's immune to this shit and it mostly ends up being fun for us because we've been dealing with it since we were basically children. I get it decently often too being a big homo.
While I'm sure MMOs aren't immune to that sort of harassment, it does seem a lot less frequent on there. I mainly play FFXIV, and don't see nearly as much stupidity, even in the discord chats.
It's honestly bizarre that these people act this way. Like they are so socially inept and without consequence. I find that there are even a ton of people that don't harp and harass a girl but still ask at the start if they are a girl like it's pertinent info. Like just don't, how hard is that? Fools.
Indeed. I don't really understand where's the fun in insulting other people while playing. Also the thought of "Women don't know how to play video games" must vanish.
I'm not saying the same, I'm saying it happens either you're a man or woman. There's no other solution but to report them. What are you going to do exactly? Talk to them about how it's wrong and make them stop? They won't.
This has nothing to do with being a "gamer".
Lol all I said was that you can't police speech on a service like XBL/PSN so your best bet is to ignore and report trolls instead of giving them the attention they want
Fuck people.. I was playing Fortnite squads on my own and was matched with a kid aged 8 - 12 and another aged 13 - 15. I didn't have my mic on but the younger kid asked where we were going twice and if anybody had a mic and the older kid started swearing at him telling him to shut up and it broke my heart. Needless to say I plugged in my mic and let them both know I was there and told the younger kid that he could lead the team. The older kid didn't say a word after that.
Point is, if you come across toxic behaviour online, be a good example and maybe these people will stop for a second and think about what they're saying. Or at the very least another person might get to have a better experience.
Point is, if you come across toxic behaviour online, be a good example and maybe these people will stop for a second and think about what they're saying. Or at the very least another person might get to have a better experience.