It's not like on pc is that beauty ehWell people wanted stable performance. Here you go.
Now complain about "subpar" graphics and lower resolutions.
It's not like on pc is that beauty ehWell people wanted stable performance. Here you go.
Now complain about "subpar" graphics and lower resolutions.
Probably, although I am not convinced sending reviewers PC versions early and holding back the console versions till release day is a particularly great one.
What middle ground? 20fps@900p? That would be a terrible middle ground.
These consoles are very weak, with crappy outdated laptop CPUs. Shits gonna give, especially with such a main focus on physics calculations. They did what they could to get it running acceptably, and that's fine.
No that is a good one too, it's just a shitty one for the consumer if they are duped into getting the console version after seeing PC reviews
The game won't have had the biggest budget compared to other AAA games and it does a lot of stuff with destructible environments, sacrifices will have been needed
Considering that's the case, visuals suffering instead of performance was the right call
I agree it's shitty to hold back console versions from reviewers
And not a single one of them does one tenth of what Just Cause 4 does physics wise.
Yeah even JC3 looked like a CPU test when you exploded everything. I'm not surprised this is even more demanding given what I've read.And not a single one of them does one tenth of what Just Cause 4 does physics wise.
That's part of the point.
People don't want optimisation. They want high framerate while running at ultra settings on mediocre hardware.
Why do you think CPU stress be affected by resolution? These consoles have shared bandwidth between CPU & GPU and things like resolution, alpha transparencies etc while being GPU centric still require a set amount of bandwidth. The CPU in the other hand requires a set amount of bandwidth as well and since the game is so heavy on physics it requires a lot more of it than in other games. Yet there is only so much bandwidth that can be used so something has to give so that the performance doesn't end up being bottlenecked because you are trying to push more than the available bandwidth.Of course but it sounds weird to me. In theory lower the resolution means more cpu stressed or I'm wrong? This engine is really bizzarre.
Again, the game has "rushed out" painted all over it. 90% of these technical issues arent because of 'sacrifices'.
Don`t know if it is that easy. Not even complaining about the graphics. It does not have to look as good as Horizon or RDR and have all that crazy physic stuff, but it sure could look better. And it sounds like it could run better on Pcs, too.And not a single one of them does one tenth of what Just Cause 4 does physics wise.
Bike controls in JC3 were fine, I don't see why they would change them . The issue was with the cars, which got fixed in 4.Dont excuse garbage fire textures and ps2 quality water because console cpu's are weak. The game runs just as well when youre in an area with good textures as it runs with bad. theres no universal downgrade across the board.
And what excuse do you have for busted color grading or bike controls being identical to jc3 or how cutscenes look like low bitrate 720p ?
literally nothing in that takes extra hardware power. The people who worked on this either didnt know how to or simply didnt give a fuck.
and fyi all 3 of those exist on pc too.
have you played the game or analysed its shortcomings to know that?
This is absolutely true. Our PS4 code arrived 8am launch day.I read that reviewers had no access to the console version prior to release, anyone know if this is true?
PC version has lot's of pop-in issues as well tho. It's not about weak hardware here. Avalanche are not that good at optimising their games.
Bike controls in JC3 were fine, I don't see why they would change them . The issue was with the cars, which got fixed in 4.
I'll agree with the cutscenes being a weird kind of trash. It's puzzling why they didn't make them real time cutscenes since there's really nothing in them that justifies prerendered. On the other hand, I don't give a shit about cutscenes in a Just Cause game
WTH ,,, this looks like last gen games.uncharted 3 on ps3 was better looking than this lol.yea yea , i know physics and open world and stuff but this type of graphics is not really the norm this gen .I took the below screenie last night on my 1X playing on a 4K screen. Sorry but I don't believe this was the best they could do.
And how about those textures!
Oooof! Did they resolve eventually? How long did it take?I took the below screenie last night on my 1X playing on a 4K screen. Sorry but I don't believe this was the best they could do.
And how about those textures!
Wow. This looks like a last gen game!I took the below screenie last night on my 1X playing on a 4K screen. Sorry but I don't believe this was the best they could do.
And how about those textures!
Situations like this show it really is getting time for a next generation.
The can be a middle ground. Not everything is mutually exclusive.
I guess physics and destruction are to blame here, since we've already seen massively detailed overworlds like RDR2 rendering at native 4K on the X, but you can't compare the pace and level of mayhem you can create at any given point.
So in Just Cause 3 they focused on graphics, it performed like shit, and everyone was angry.
In Just Cause 4, they focused on performance, it looks like shit, and everyone is angry.
Can't please everyone I guess.
If that means a stable 30fps then that's fine
Yet there's many graphically impressive games on these 'very weak' consoles
It looks like shit on all consoles.
Why would you even think this?
Considered the bandwidth on the X I'm not so sure how solely the bandwidth was the issue. Even in the case they could opted of a sort of reconstruction or CBR like Ubisoft. It's not like on pc has no issue neither. Honestly I don't think was the best possible port. And by the way, I thought ps4 has dedicate gpu resources for the physics.Why do you think CPU stress be affected by resolution? These consoles have shared bandwidth between CPU & GPU and things like resolution, alpha transparencies etc while being GPU centric still require a set amount of bandwidth. The CPU in the other hand requires a set amount of bandwidth as well and since the game is so heavy on physics it requires a lot more of it than in other games. Yet there is only so much bandwidth that can be used so something has to give so that the performance doesn't end up being bottlenecked because you are trying to push more than the available bandwidth.
By lowering the quality of transparencies like water & fire (two things that are extremely common and found everywhere in abundance in this game) or lowering resolution these components won't take as much bandwidth, thereby allowing the CPU to keep doing its thing.
Yet they have the most powerful console now.
Regardless, those posts were hyperbolic fanboyism
I'm 100% fine with the lower resolution. But this also just shows how we need to adapt the mobile method of releasing consoles more often. Base consoles every 4 years with a "Pro" or "S" model in-between. We're at a point where there shouldn't be problems running PS4 games on PS7.Well people wanted stable performance. Here you go.
Now complain about "subpar" graphics and lower resolutions.
Do what you gotta do. Physics aside, it has that look of Far Cry on the last two gens. If it's stable then they did well I guess. Sure there will be a definite edition for next gen.
Situations like this show it really is getting time for a next generation.
Wait, is it a fairly poor effort, or a piss poor effort? It can't be both! I need to know!
He's talking about the One, not X. One is the weakest console JC4 is on. Don't see how that is hyperbolic.Yet they have the most powerful console now.
Regardless, those posts were hyperbolic fanboyism
This is the first thing I thought about too, lol.
Oh, because the base consoles don't exist anymore. Didn't you hear?He's talking about the One, not X. One is the weakest console JC4 is on. Don't see how that is hyperbolic.
I really hope ps5 in 2019. I can't survive to stuff like this for other 2 years.
I really hope ps5 in 2019. I can't survive to stuff like this for other 2 years.