They'd have to somehow kidnap a GOP Senator and Manchin for months and not take a hit in the polls lol.
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Justice Anthony Kennedy Will Retire From U.S Supreme Court
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The DTJ tweet definitely is. Here:
Is this real?
Ugh
Even as a kid in American studies classes here in the US I always found it super weird how the Supreme Court Judges are lifetime appointments. I remember thinking back then just how unfair that was long before I had any real clue about what a democrat/republican or left/right was. Are there term limits in other countries where you guys are from, or max ages or things like that? I don't think there is much doubt that Ruth Bader Ginsburg will retire before Trump is out of office if he gets reelected. She has law clerks signed through 2020 and has said she wants to do it how John Paul Stevens retired at 90.
Can you imagine the pressure it puts on these judges? Depending on the president in office, knowing they need to hold on until this or that president is out of office if they really wish to uphold and secure the things they helped put into place.
Can you imagine the pressure it puts on these judges? Depending on the president in office, knowing they need to hold on until this or that president is out of office if they really wish to uphold and secure the things they helped put into place.
Well yeah. Basically we had the civil war, they lost, civil rights movement, they lost for the most part.
Now it's coming around again. Kind of looks like they might win this time. Shitty white people keep being shitty basically. Not all that much has changed in nearly 200 years. This isn't solely a problem in the US either.
The Republicans have had the majority on the court since 1972. They've had a 7-2 or greater majority for 36 of those years. Basically every decision granting LGBTQ rights has occurred and persisted through Republican controlled Supreme Courts. They pretty consistently split on the issue of expanding rights but also tend to respect the precedent of previous decisions expanding rights even if they wouldn't have voted that way to begin with.
Another period of 5-4 or 6-3 is not legal doomsday.
Yeah my apologies, the number would be actually close to 100 million people that didnt vote.
Which is still a lot.
Dems have 49 votes, so they couldn't stop it if they wanted to now that the threshold is 50. If they win 51 seats in November then we can block picks. This is crucial if Ginsburg cannot hold out health-wise and why November is still important besides just the House.
Obama couldn't have just appointed someone, neither can Trump.
I can't add much more that hasn't been said, but I wonder how much longer Ginsberg can hold out. God forbid she has some health issue and has to step down in the next two years. If Trump wins in 2020 he will 100% be replacing her too. Democrats have got to get off of our asses and swing Congress this year. And we have got to have a primary process from which emerges a candidate that can beat Trump in 2020. In 2016 we sent forth a shitbag candidate, the only major Dem politician maybe that Trump could have beaten. In 2020 we gotta do better or we are fucking this country over for decades. Civil rights for everyone except white straight males are on the table here.
I get you man. Not going to lie, my wife is worried constantly about the future and what it holds.
I decided to visit NeoGAF, to see what it is like now. I have not visited there since the incident and HOLY FUCKING HELL. When did that place become /r/The_Donald/?
It actually depressed me more. It is insane what people are saying in those threads and most things are "look at the triggered libs".
I am holding out for November to see what the country will look like in the coming years. I think that will be my breaking point.
Is this Kennedy person related to Kennedy family or just the same name? And he was successor to Antonin Scalia? Or this is also totally unrelated? Sorry don't know much about USA Gov. If you don't mind the question....
Every day - no, every few hours - something comes out that makes us all a little worse off. Boundaries are pushed. Lines are crossed. And the fear comes back.
Last year, a mob of neo Nazis marched on Charlottesville chanting about jews, about people like me. One of them even committed an act of terrorism that injured dozens and resulted in a fatality. The president called them very fine people.
Yesterday, the President called his supporters the "super elite." The master race.
He has been ranting about "fake news" for years. Lugenpresse.
We have concentration camps.
Do you realize how frightening the current state of affairs is for Hispanics who are being rounded up, or millenial Jews like myself who have our peoples' extermination taught to us from a young age by our grandparents and survivors who told us their stories in school and at Jewish community gatherings? My parents remember times when Jews couldn't own property in certain communities or have hospital privileges. We received those kinds of talks about civil rights and discrimination just like African Americans, with even more organization behind the messages.
We're screaming and terrified because we know what path we're heading down.
If you're Jewish, can't you very easily immigrate to Israel?
There is a mandatory retirement age of 75 in Canada.
The biggest issue in the US Supreme Court is its partisan nature. In my view, the Supreme Court should be something that works quietly in the background, not a front and centre battleground for politics.
How is it horrible? This thread and other threads are full of people despairing over how its impossible to get out of this country due to the immigration policies of other nations, like Canada's point system. The poster even said that he needs to be prepared to flee for his life. I was asking how easy it is to do said fleeing to Israel, since as I understand it they have a very good right of return law.
No, actually
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If your white can't you very easily immigrate to England/UK?
Dem voters already angry will now be furious, driving up turnout more.
He's not related to the JFK Kennedys, no.
Scalia's replacement was Neil Gorsuch, a seat which Republicans stole from Obama during his last year in office and who was quickly confirmed after Trump took office. Gorsuch will be on the Court for a very long time. Scalia was previously the most senior Associate Justice until he died, making Kennedy the most senior until now, if that's what you were referring to.
Once Trump won it was common speculation that Kennedy would likely retire so he could have his successor chosen by a Republican, so this isn't entirely unexpected, but the timing is a bit sudden. Especially given that the outcome of Mueller's investigation is likely to elevate several crucial legal questions to the Supreme Court. Someone like Kennedy would be better to have on the Court for that over whatever partisan Trump will end up picking.
It shifted so fast.
I just want this nightmare to be over. I don't care how it happens, I just want it to end. I'm tired, and my soul is ragged from constantly screaming.
...this is a joke, isn't it?
Can someone please clarify:
Are folks suggesting that democrats pack federal courts now, without holding the presidency (and thus without having the ability to nominate Article 3 judges) or to pack the courts when they have the ability to do so (i.e., when there's a democratic president)?
Are folks suggesting that democrats pack federal courts now, without holding the presidency (and thus without having the ability to nominate Article 3 judges) or to pack the courts when they have the ability to do so (i.e., when there's a democratic president)?
They're talking about when they have the ability.
If people are talking things democrats don't really have power to do, they're probably talking about stalling the vote somehow.
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If people don't watch or click then the media will move on to the next thing. This issue will be front and center when we get closer to Trump appointing someone.
SCOTUSblog has compiled a list of some major decisions that would have gone the other way with a more conservative justice, to help visualize the consequence.
http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/06/the-roberts-court-after-kennedy/
http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/06/the-roberts-court-after-kennedy/
This shit makes me so mad you have no idea, gonna have to calm down for a bit.
Thank you!
Next few decades*
BTW expect the Media to write articles proclaiming how the Democrats are wrong to compare this to 2016 and that they are trying to cheat and be unfair.
Also expect if like say three of the red state Dems eventually vote to confirm while every other Dem votes against whoever is nominated that the headlines will read "X Person's nomination to SC Confirmed with Bipartisan Support"
Because make no mistake Bipartisan is here defined as if one Dem agrees it's all of a sudden bipartisan.
Also expect if like say three of the red state Dems eventually vote to confirm while every other Dem votes against whoever is nominated that the headlines will read "X Person's nomination to SC Confirmed with Bipartisan Support"
Because make no mistake Bipartisan is here defined as if one Dem agrees it's all of a sudden bipartisan.
They're stretching quite a bit to make Kennedy look more liberal and crucial then he was. The section on political gerrymandering is particularly silly. Kennedy has never actually differed from the conservative majority in his vote on the issue. All they have is that he once indicated in a Concurrence that there might be constitutional limits on it, but not in that particular case and apparently not in any of the cases that have come before him afterward either
This. I'd never actually considered moving until now. What will there be left to save?
Which lead to them picking up a new case that people thought he was going to go with the liberals on.
Maybe he never was going to follow through, but either way it's worth mentioning after all the previous hype for the supreme courts doing something about it. That dream is dead now.
I feel like Kennedy is the SCOTUS version of McCain. Super-Conservative but everyone portrays him as a moderate because of a couple votes.
Won't happen. Hypocrisy isn't something to be ashamed of for Republicans, it's more like a badge of honor.
This situation with the Supreme Court was exactly what was being voted on last election. From the day Trump won we knew this terrible day was coming, and it's going to cause generations of suffering
I've become sadly convinced as time has gone on that it is only a matter of time until this forum results in someone's death with the way things are going
The only option is if we could pin something bad on the nominee that is very unpopular. Collins and Murkowski's voters don't care about procedure, but they would care about them voting for the reversal of Roe vs Wade for instance.
The problem is those nominees never take a stance on anything publicly until they're appointed so that can't happen, and they'll probably be careful to not pick anyone that had to rule on anything too controversial.