Yeah but but, BERNIE
HRC was a good pick, we could have gone for a more left leaning candidate like Bernie in 2024, but no, people are impatient.
Lol. Democrats don't vote based on the Supreme Court. That's how we got here.
That's ridiculous. She will not let trump replace her until she dies. Because she knows a 6-3 majority is much worse than a 5-4, and it matters for decades not just for the trump era.Kennedy retiring may actually push RBG into retirement faster.
The few instances where Kennedy voted with the Left is effectively gone now.
What purpose does RBG have staying now when she's already in the minority opinion?
5-4 is still 5-4.
Bernie probably would have beaten Trump. Only problem is Bernie was gunning for Trump during the primaries rather than Hilary. Of course some of this can be laid on the media who kept reporting Hilary being ahead non-stop due to the super delegates, but I feel like the fault lies mostly with Bernie.
Get out of here. America would not elect an old jewish socialist guy promising to raise your taxes to pay for free college and unicorns.
Pretty soon, gays will be locked up and women forced and reduced to babymaking machines.
It'll be a real life Handmaid's tale.
But hey, it was such a difficult election right. Both were bad, right.
Will things get worse RIGHT NOW? Do we have to panic at this very minute about every single bad thing that is going to happen in the future?What about the past 18 months suggests things won't get worse?
Not a chance. Ginsburg will cling to that seat in the hopes of depriving the conservatives of a 6-3 majority.Kennedy retiring may actually push RBG into retirement faster.
The few instances where Kennedy voted with the Left is effectively gone now.
What purpose does RBG have staying now when she's already in the minority opinion?
5-4 is still 5-4.
.This is not helpful. "BUT BERNIE!" is useless to us now. The only thing we need to focus on is how we can stop the world from descending into a fascist dictatorship.
Yeah why let republicans have 5-4 decisions, when she can let them have 6-3 decisions. good call. probably won't affect the next democrat we have in the white house.Kennedy retiring may actually push RBG into retirement faster.
The few instances where Kennedy voted with the Left is effectively gone now.
What purpose does RBG have staying now when she's already in the minority opinion?
5-4 is still 5-4.
Everything worked out swell for him.
Can we stop the 2016 cat fights? It's over. It's 2018 now. Trump won, and now we're here. We need to figure out how to make the best of this, not keep relitigating the last election. Thanks.
I'm with a campaign right now but it's worth letting people know what bad shit is gonna happenI don't know what this post even means.
There's nothing anyone in this thread can do RIGHT NOW about Kennedy retiring. Trump WILL pick his replacement and he WILL be confirmed, so why keep piling on bad thing after bad thing all at once instead of letting it process over the next few days?
Take a deep breath and get ready for some serious fights in the future.
Realistically, what can we do now? Let's say dems do well in Midterms and we get a dem president in 2020.
What then?
If they had their way the minimum voting age would be 25 and multiple forms of ID would be required at the booths. Oh and they'd probably push for a requirement to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and the Our Father before going in as well, as a modern day version of Literacy Tests.I wonder if the Republicans will try to pass legislation that obstructs our right to Vote in order to mitigate the November elections.
I mean they already won.
Hey I'm Canadian. I'll be fine (for the most part). I'm worried about my sister and her family though.She tried to tell you dummies.
On several fucking occasions. But some of the electorate can't see past Thursday, so shallow shit like "likability" and "favorite color" take a higher position for voting decisions (or apathy) than the prospect of 3 or more Supreme Court picks. I guess people need to lean by way of pain why people have literally fought and died to give us the right to vote. Why people in power fought tooth and nail to stop women and people of color from voting for literally hundreds of years. A right many even posting here shit on in the last 2 elections, casually and flippantly misusing or failing to take the shit seriously.
When the decisions start coming in over the next 20 years that hurt the people around you in ways that make you feel ashamed, remember these days and how your action or inaction contributed.
Try?I wonder if the Republicans will try to pass legislation that obstructs our right to Vote in order to mitigate the November elections.
"Berniebros" were Russian bots.
It isI'm with a campaign right now but it's worth letting people know what bad shit is gonna happen
Yeah the coverage will be hilariousif awfulIncrease the court size but good luck the media will be all over the Dems for lack of decorum...
Do you have any sources for Bernie supporting Trump in the primaries? A quote or statement or something.
He would have won.
Preparing for battles is a thing.Will things get worse RIGHT NOW? Do we have to panic at this very minute about every single bad thing that is going to happen in the future?
No, we don't. There's nothing we can do to change anything that is happening. We are completly powerless until November, and by then Kennedy's replacement will have already been confirmed.
Worry about the battles as they come. If you don't, you're just asking for anxiety.
3 million more people voted for Hillary.This right here. Last chance to stop this crazy train was in 2016. Democrats couldn't hold their nose and vote Hilary like Republicans could for Trump, and now must live with the consequences. Lesson is about to be learned the hard way.
It'll last till I'm deadMight be fair to say the Republicans will have finally won their culture war. Not sure how long it'll last, but they have already swung the country back decades.
If they can look the other way w/ Trump saying he might pardon himself, I'm sure they'll look the other way for this.Increase the court size but good luck the media will be all over the Dems for lack of decorum...
The Bernie or nothing people were bots? Someone just posted about it in this very same thread.
It use to be a bit smarter when you had to have bipartisan support for a new Justice. Now you could get anyone you wanted on there regardless of stance if one party banded together to vote them in.Is it just me or is the way supreme court justices are picked the dumbest thing ever?
The thing that isn't appreciated by many (including me at the time is the fact that, to us, Trump was a joke. He was always a joke.I was hoping this wouldn't happen, but it's something most of us figured was a real possibility when Trump was elected. Barring something left-field, a judge should be nominated and confirmed this year since Republicans control the Senate, and Roberts would be the "swing" vote.
This is bad news, but at the same time, it's why 2018 is so important. This will have huge implications for the census in 2020, so state legislatures/governors' mansions are hugely important, never mind Congress. I've voted in the tiniest of elections since 2017 started and will make it a point to continue to do so when the stakes are so high.
A quibble: I'd say he really was a bad candidate (the only one who wasn't easily above Hillary during the primaries while people like Rubio and Kasich were) and torpedoed himself so many times (going after the Khan family after the convention, going after the Mexican judge, Curiel, his terrible debate preparation), but his strategy was completely underrated. He blatantly showed his hand with going after the rust belt and did it, which had tentacles in other states like Florida, whose southwestern counties are more mid-western than other parts of the state.
So I still agree with you. While a better candidate than Trump, the same was said about Bush, even in 04 (how did the Democrats pick someone who could have lost to Bush?), without people realizing his strategy he was employing and that it was effective. If people think simply nominating someone more progressive will win things in 2020, it won't (though I'd like someone more progressive).