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Fergie

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Oct 25, 2017
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England m8.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Supreme Court justices appeared poised to side with a black Mississippi death row inmate put on trial six times for a 1996 quadruple murder who accused a prosecutor of repeatedly blocking black potential jurors, though the court's only black member sounded skeptical.


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Death row inmate Curtis Flowers is seen in this Mississippi Department of Corrections photo from Mississippi State Penitentiary Unit 29 in Parchman, Mississippi, U.S., July 1, 2010. Picture taken July 1, 2010. Courtesy Mississippi Department of Corrections/Handout via REUTERS


Justice Clarence Thomas, who had not posed a question during an oral argument in three years, asked several in the case involving Curtis Flowers, 48, who has argued that his constitutional right to a fair trial was violated.
Thomas, an idiosyncratic conservative and only the second African American ever appointed to the court, signaled through his questions he might vote against Flowers, who otherwise drew broad support among the other justices, both liberal and conservative.


More: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...94ce&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

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rude

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,812
How did people look at Thomas and think Kavanaugh's admittance into the court was going to go any way other than how it did

The President deciding who goes on the SC doesn't even make sense in regard to checks and balances to me.
 

thediamondage

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,277
How did people look at Thomas and think Kavanaugh's admittance into the court was going to go any way other than how it did

The President deciding who goes on the SC doesn't even make sense in regard to checks and balances to me.

This article which goes into a little more detail on the case and the prosecution/jury selection says that Kavanaugh may be the swing vote actually that decides in favor of Curtis Flowers over the state
https://www.apmreports.org/story/2019/03/20/curtis-flowers-oral-arguments-supreme-court
 

JaseC64

Enlightened
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
11,008
Strong Island NY
There are people in this world who self hate themselves. Then goes to hate on their own people when they can. This guy is one of them.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Thomas, an idiosyncratic conservative and only the second African American ever appointed to the court, signaled through his questions he might vote against Flowers, who otherwise drew broad support among the other justices, both liberal and conservative.

Sounds like Clarence Thomas
 

Big Yoshi

Member
Nov 25, 2018
1,810
First Lucio got nerfed. Now Daniel Caesar is tap-dancing.

This just isn't my week.

Dude more consistent knockback is a huge buff to the boop and enables some serious aggro Lucio

But as others have said, Clarence Thomas Sat on the bench for so long without asking questions until Scalia died its hard to take him seriously.
 

Addie

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,701
DFW
Another PSA from me: If you make an OP about SCOTUS-related stuff, please include information from reputable sources such as SCOTUSblog. The AP/Reuters simply aren't equipped to provide a suitable foundation for the nuance involved in these matters.

The issue in the case is basically: "Can a lead prosecutor's track record of challenging jurors be considered in mounting an allegation that his strikes were impermissibly motivated by race?"

During jury selection, some potential jurors can be removed "for cause" – that is, when a judge believes that a juror cannot be impartial in deciding the case. The lawyers trying the case also have a certain number of "peremptory strikes," which allow them to reject jurors without providing a reason. However, the Supreme Court ruled in Batson v. Kentucky that prosecutors cannot use their peremptory strikes to remove prospective jurors from the jury pool based only on the jurors' race. Next week the Supreme Court will hear oral argument in the case of a Mississippi death-row inmate who was convicted by a jury that included just one African-American juror. The inmate, Curtis Flowers, argues that the jury selection in his case violated the Constitution; in particular, he contends, the lower courts should have considered the lead prosecutor's history of racially motivated strikes.

And here's an excerpt from the full SCOTUSblog article about Flowers:

Doug Evans, the local district attorney, served as the lead prosecutor [against Flowers] at all six of the trials.

In Flowers' first two trials, which involved a single murder charge, Evans used his peremptory strikes to eliminate all 10 potential African-American jurors. Flowers was convicted and sentenced to death, but both convictions were later reversed by the Mississippi Supreme Court, which found that Evans had engaged in intentional misconduct, such as introducing evidence of the other murders.

At his third trial, Flowers was convicted and sentenced to death for the murder of all four victims, as Howe wrote. But the Mississippi Supreme Court also overturned those convictions. Evans had used all 15 of his peremptory strikes to remove African-American members of the jury pool, the state court ruled, in violation of the U.S. Supreme Court's 1986 decision in Batson v. Kentucky.

When Flowers was tried a fourth time, Evans used 11 peremptory strikes to remove potential African-American jurors, resulting in a jury with seven whites and five African-Americans. That jury deadlocked, as did the jury in Flowers' fifth trial, Howe noted. Evans used five peremptory strikes in that trial, but there is no record of the race of the jurors whom he struck.

At Flowers' sixth trial, in 2010, six of the 26 potential jurors in the jury pool were African-American. Evans allowed the first one to be seated but then struck the next five prospective African-American jurors, resulting in a jury of 11 white jurors and just one African-American. Flowers was convicted and sentenced to death for all four murders.

That 2010 conviction was upheld by the Mississippi Supreme Court, and upheld again after it was remanded for reconsideration in light of the U.S. Supreme Court's 2016 decision in Foster v. Chatman, which held that the use of peremptory strikes to remove potential African-American jurors, as reflected in prosecutors' notes, was unconstitutional.

This most recent conviction is the one before the justices today, and they will consider whether the state high court erred in how it applied Batson.

And here's the Thomas exchange:

"And what was the race of the jurors struck there?" continues Thomas, who was the lone dissenter in Foster v. Chatman.

"She only exercised peremptories against white jurors," Johnson says. "But I would add that the motive — her motivation is not the question here. The question is the motivation of Doug Evans."

Sotomayor chimes in with some help, pointing out that the defendant's lawyer didn't have much opportunity to strike black jurors.
 

xfactor99

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Oct 28, 2017
729
I know Clarence Thomas sucks, but he has occasionally sided with liberals on criminal defendants' rights and civil rights issues, even if he is usually awful. I can never figure out the pattern or consistency to his rulings:

The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld the right of the state of Texas to reject a specialty license plate featuring a Confederate flag. The case featured an unusual alliance in which Justice Clarence Thomas, known for his rigid ideological conservatism, teamed up with the court's four liberal justices in a 5-4 majority.

https://www.motherjones.com/politic...-court-confederate-flag-texas-license-plates/

https://slate.com/news-and-politics...ginalism-leads-him-to-side-with-liberals.html
 

Remmy2112

Member
Nov 5, 2017
1,139
How did people look at Thomas and think Kavanaugh's admittance into the court was going to go any way other than how it did

The President deciding who goes on the SC doesn't even make sense in regard to checks and balances to me.

It made sense to the framers of the constitution to have it be a two step process where they assumed the president would be sane and would put forth quality candidates and then the senate to give their approval or disapproval. In the time since then, however, things have changed that makes it make less sense. Process-wise the need to get 60 senators agreeing on the candidate is gone, you just need 50 votes plus the vice president breaking the tie, or 51 votes outright. That makes it less necessary to nominate someone that the two parties can agree on, even when one party only has a small majority.

Lifespans and medical solutions, two things that go hand in hand, have also made lifetime appointments for judges far more consequential. There have been long-serving justices throughout history but with advances in the 20th and 21st centuries these can become the norm, not the exception. Trump's two picks were 50 and 53 at the time of their nominations and hearings. The oldest justice on the bench is 86 years old. These two most recent justices could be on the bench for 30 plus years.