Is this the official metoo Twitter? I hope not, cos it's just sad at this point.
The only thing that hurts MeToo, is bringing MeToo in while still defending Heard
Is this the official metoo Twitter? I hope not, cos it's just sad at this point.
Most justice systems do this: the accused is believed to be innocent until proven guilty.Believing someone by default is and was never a reasonable idea.
It's been said many times before, but believing women and minorities when they report abuse means (or should mean) we take their message and case very seriously, investigate their case correctly, and render justice when needed.
I'm afraid I am not following your line of reasoning there, that's on me. To me, believing and taking it seriously are separate things. Let's make what I mean to say explicit, with the following thought experiment.I agree but for me it is a difference to take someone serious or to believe someone. Different words have different meanings and all that.
I'm afraid I am not following your line of reasoning there, that's on me. To me, believing and taking it seriously are separate things. Let's make what I mean to say explicit, with the following thought experiment.
Imagine a woman tells me she is being/was abused. I believe what she said is truthful.
Now I have the following choices (amongst others) - do I:
A: take it seriously, which means actually expending effort in due diligence - research, follow up, wait for evidence, examine past history of parties involved, and help her out if needed and within my abilities,
B: be an asshole and ignore it,
C: Overextend and immediately go nuclear against the ones she accuses with no due diligence (research, follow up, wait for evidence, examine past history of parties involved)
In my case, believing that the woman in this case is being truthful about the abuse is a given. I also take it seriously.
For the record, this is not an actual thought experiment for me, as I have been involved in this type of situation before.
Ah, I see what you mean, now. I'm having a disconnect, though. If you don't believe someone, why would you take it seriously? It could be a personal bias on my side. if I didn't believe you, I would choose B - that means I don't expend effort, and I certainly wouldn't take you seriously.In your example I would choose A but I would not believe anybody. So I wouldn't say to anybody explicitly that I believe them (e.g. accuser or accused) but I would take it very seriously. For me believing is just believing, like religion. Nobody can say if it is true or false before you have facts.
Ah, I see what you mean, now. I'm having a disconnect, though. If you don't believe someone, why would you take it seriously? It could be a personal bias, because if I didn't believe you, I would choose B, as that means I don't expend effort, and I certainly wouldn't take you seriously.
Guys....
This is really bad ....
One of the 4 women at the top of that "meToo" organization, is Amanda de Cadenet.
Amber Heard's best friend ......
Who is also listed in Depp's lawsuit as a co-conspirator ..........
Now retweeting on her platform a slanderous article ignoring all recent facts.
You can't make this shit up.
Yeah, we'd definitely verge off-topic if we continue haha. Thanks for the replies, in any case! :)Some topics have to be taken seriously. For example, if a stranger on the streets thinks he has a heart attack, I don't need to believe him I just need to call an ambulance and help him. And even if he was joking you would first try to help until you find out that he was joking, or wouldn't you? (Let's pretend that the strange is a really good actor that can fake a heart attack)
An other example would be climate change, I don't have to believe in it I just need to look at the facts.
Sorry if this is too much offtopic.
Guys....
This is really bad ....
One of the 4 women at the top of that "meToo" organization, is Amanda de Cadenet.
Amber Heard's best friend ......
Who is also listed in Depp's lawsuit as a co-conspirator ..........
Now retweeting on her platform a slanderous article ignoring all recent facts.
You can't make this shit up.
Guys....
This is really bad ....
One of the 4 women at the top of that "meToo" organization, is Amanda de Cadenet.
Amber Heard's best friend ......
Who is also listed in Depp's lawsuit as a co-conspirator ..........
Now retweeting on her platform a slanderous article ignoring all recent facts.
You can't make this shit up.
Wait like she actually took a shit on the bed? Like she actually did that?
She like seriously just shit on his side of the bed? Wtf is wrong with her?Based on witness statements, yeah. His housekeeper said she found it on his side, and Heard said it was a practical joke. Property manager was called up and also gave a statement about it. Heard changed the story later to blame her teacup yorkie.
Nah I swear it was the dog!She like seriously just shit on his side of the bed? Wtf is wrong with her?
She like seriously just shit on his side of the bed? Wtf is wrong with her?
Is this the official metoo Twitter? I hope not, cos it's just sad at this point.
Based on witness statements, yeah. His housekeeper said she found it on his side, and Heard said it was a practical joke. Property manager was called up and also gave a statement about it. Heard changed the story later to blame her teacup yorkie.
I don't know what you're attempting here, but I think you're barking up the wrong tree.Telling people to watch Bird of Prey and also defending Amber Heard? I guess the author of that article is a fan of violent women in both fiction AND reality.
YikesGuys....
This is really bad ....
One of the 4 women at the top of that "meToo" organization, is Amanda de Cadenet.
Amber Heard's best friend ......
Who is also listed in Depp's lawsuit as a co-conspirator ..........
Now retweeting on her platform a slanderous article ignoring all recent facts.
You can't make this shit up.
Just got to change the sheets (get rid of her) and the bed will be as good as new.
Guys....
This is really bad ....
One of the 4 women at the top of that "meToo" organization, is Amanda de Cadenet.
Amber Heard's best friend ......
Who is also listed in Depp's lawsuit as a co-conspirator ..........
Now retweeting on her platform a slanderous article ignoring all recent facts.
You can't make this shit up.
Jesus, this is fucked up. Some people really hate to be wrong, I guess. There's just no defending Heard here, no justification to be found. And Cadenet is damaging her reputation as well as the Me Too movement with this shit. The strong majority of women aren't defending Heard, so hopefully there will be some pushback on Cadenet...it's gross that she's among the top of the organization. The other three at the top should speak up, if they haven't already.Guys....
This is really bad ....
One of the 4 women at the top of that "meToo" organization, is Amanda de Cadenet.
Amber Heard's best friend ......
Who is also listed in Depp's lawsuit as a co-conspirator ..........
Now retweeting on her platform a slanderous article ignoring all recent facts.
You can't make this shit up.
Jesus, this is fucked up. Some people really hate to be wrong, I guess. There's just no defending Heard here, no justification to be found. And Cadenet is damaging her reputation as well as the Me Too movement with this shit. The strong majority of women aren't defending Heard, so hopefully there will be some pushback on Cadenet...it's gross that she's among the top of the organization. The other three at the top should speak up, if they haven't already.
This is a perplexing piece of information that's just been unveiled.
This is a perplexing piece of information that's just been unveiled.
I think the important thing to understand with this recent development is that you can remove the trash from MeToo and the movement can continue on as intended doing good. It's more than just a CEO
.BUT it does explain the lack of coverage here. I'm sure she has some sort of influence.
One of the 4 women at the top of that "meToo" organization, is Amanda de Cadenet.
They're certainly hiding her on the staff page if so, if you're referring to the account that tweeted in response to the one article. I see her name there on the open letter to Dr. Ford but I don't understand what her role in this organization actually is, or at least they're not forthcoming about it.
That's big.I don't know if it's been posted here, but it seems like Johnny also submitted 87 surveillance videos, against Amber.
Holy shit, I feel so bad for Johnny. There's just too much to digest here... Amber is an abuser, there's no doubt about it.
Anyone defending her at this point, has completely misunderstood the purpose of movements like MeToo.
I don't know if it's been posted here, but it seems like Johnny also submitted 87 surveillance videos, against Amber.
I truly hope he recovers from this. As for Amber, the truth coming out will do enough damage. I don't believe we'll be seeing her in Aquaman 2 (and if she's in it, I won't be seeing it).
clearly, the videos are doctored.
/s
but there will be at least one Twitter user who will say Johnny Depp paid someone to doctor the videos.
Are you gaslighting?Telling people to watch Bird of Prey and also defending Amber Heard? I guess the author of that article is a fan of violent women in both fiction AND reality.
Are you gaslighting?
I don't see the point in wrapping up Bird's of Prey with the metoo leadership self own.
Here is the channel of a therapist who specializes in narcissistic abuse and how to live through it.
She did a great job so far.
Worse than that.
If he loses defamation on a technicality, this is all her stans and friends will need. Once again not caring about facts but what they can sell to the medias.
For instance, proving she beat him doesn't mean he didn't beat her etc...
Her demurrer is going to be the biggest bullshit and with the political climate I wouldn't be surprised if a judge doesn't feel like condemning her.
I hope not obviously.
But I understand why Depp's team is leaking these things. It's a failsafe in case they lose because otherwise they would have buried themselves.
Just for the record, there are "moral" or generally socially acceptable "psychopaths" too (the population being people with very dimnished emotional [esp. fear, guilt, shame] and empathy capabilities but generally other cognitive functions being intact and some emotions such as anger or interest might be their main ones). It depends on how they were raised to think and what kind of ethical logic they decide to use. They can be pro-social, just kinda lacking in emotional capability. Which is why ASPD doesn't always seem to accurately describe those types of people and why I don't use that term as much.Hans Asperger was a Nazi collaborator and a Eugenecist.
You shouldn't be using that either.
Damaging to the MeToo movement, she should get out of it, her involvement and bad faith in this shit show now creates a precedent that people can use to discredit women.Guys....
This is really bad ....
One of the 4 women at the top of that "meToo" organization, is Amanda de Cadenet.
Amber Heard's best friend ......
Who is also listed in Depp's lawsuit as a co-conspirator ..........
Now retweeting on her platform a slanderous article ignoring all recent facts.
You can't make this shit up.
Absolutely wild. Poor bloke.Guys....
This is really bad ....
One of the 4 women at the top of that "meToo" organization, is Amanda de Cadenet.
Amber Heard's best friend ......
Who is also listed in Depp's lawsuit as a co-conspirator ..........
Now retweeting on her platform a slanderous article ignoring all recent facts.
You can't make this shit up.