Must be. If they wanted to get him new fans they should find a media with a different target (doubt NYT public cares about idols).
Now hes #1 with 850k ULs, so the ranking makes sense.
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lol someone made a petition on the Blue House site to investigate the ranking of that Nilo song
More than outright chart manipulation I think it's possibly just "great" use of viral marketing.
There's a lot of facebook pages in Korea that just post music to listen to. And of course some of them accept $$$ to post your songs. If you did that enough maybe you could manipulate it all in that way.
Not a crime but extravagant
More than outright chart manipulation I think it's possibly just "great" use of viral marketing.
There's a lot of facebook pages in Korea that just post music to listen to. And of course some of them accept $$$ to post your songs. If you did that enough maybe you could manipulate it all in that way.
Not a crime but extravagant
It's okay to be extravagant. People have the right to use their own money for their own sake. Let people enjoy their things
It doesn't make sense how he beat EXO and W1's fanbase during zombie hours. That's what makes it sketchy.
Oh shit. Here we go! That last shot of all of them together. Yessssss.
They really went in on her. That's the dangers of plastic surgery, you have perfectly fine people being told something is wrong with them by society, and then they end up messing themselves up more.
Not saying she looks bad, just thinking out loud.
She was really pretty, so I'm a little confused as to why she chose to do it, if she even chose out of her own volition.
Even if she did, there's no way she could possibly be happy with the results.
A lot of it, with people who abuse plastic surgery, is body dysmorphia. Others can tell them they're attractive, but they can't see it. Having problems like that and entering the k-pop industry is a recipe for disaster since idols are always being pitted against each other, even when they're in the same group.
All that aside, she isn't as busted looking at the netizens claim.
I don't think it's just her nose. Without exaggeration, she literally doesn't look like Namjoo anymore. Like if someone posted a pic of her without labeling it there's no way anyone would guess who it was.
Eesh, the almost 2 decades of listening to K-Pop and the plastic surgery stuff (mostly the over done surgery) still makes me cringe... I will never understand the need to keep getting more and more plastic surgery, and yet I will never understand the pressures on them by their society. Considering many get plastic surgery in S Korea just to get jobs, the society as a whole is to blame. While Namjoo looks changed, none will be as bad as the damage Park Bom has done to her self... she needs to be the poster child for what happens with too much plastic surgery.
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I'm familiar with dysmorphia, I guess I figured it would've presented itself earlier, but I guess this could be the first sign of it. I'm actually leaning towards a nose tweak that went horribly horrible wrong.
And its not really an issue of looking busted, though the comments I've seen lean less towards being mean and more towards being sympathetic to, what many interpret as, bad PS. And as G-nitro put it, she is barely recognizable.
That's how I feel and I kinda hate talking about it because most fans seem to handwave it away, and mistake it for shaming idols for getting work done.
I blame the entire entertainment industry, and the standards they're creating for normal people, the standards that make high school students get nose jobs and lifts. I wish more of them would just say, "Screw it," and accept their looks because even when they get work done folks still mess with them. It's like damned if you do, damned if you don't--so why even bother?
I think this article summed it up nicely:
It actually might just be a case of her having to promote while the surgery is still fresh, she wouldn't be the first idol to do, and won't be the last. In a couple of week she might look like herself.
I remember Arden Cho talking about what she would've been required to do to be "acceptable" in the Korean entertainment industry... it was frightening because Arden Cho is gorgeous.
I just hope she doesn't try to fix it with another job. That could make it worse.
It stood out as a even bigger problem when AKMU having a no plastic surgery clause in their contract made huge headlines... It should be the other way around... *sigh*
They're going to be one group, right? I wish it were just left to smaller groups. I mean, I'll give it a chance, but I'm not too sure about it
From what I'm seeing
before
now
This is the image that shocked me the most because if you asked me to point out Namjoo I wouldn't have been able to
This is what she looked like up until now
I'm always in favor of people doing whatever they want with their faces/body, but she was so fucking pretty
Yes and I'm also worried. Groups that big can quickly desend into chaos when it comes to lines. Hopefully the units/solos are here to stay. Think they'll lose some magic as a whole group.
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God, her nose... RIP.They're going to be one group, right? I wish it were just left to smaller groups. I mean, I'll give it a chance, but I'm not too sure about it
From what I'm seeing
before
now
Feel you on this. I would love to see the group debut super strong with all 12 members charms and strengths showing but I doubt it's gonna happen. If they somehow do it I'll be ecstatic but I give it like 2-3 comebacks till they figure out there group dynamic.
If worst comes to worst I'm still pretty sure the subunits will continue to exist so everyone will be satisfied if there fav member gets overshadowed in the main group.
I think they have potential, but I think a 12 member group will decent into a massive clusterfuck. I think we are going to end up seeing a Gugudan situation, with the more popular members (aka Odd Eye Circle) getting more lines.
I'm sort of glad I didn't buy into the hype beyond Kimlip, Jinsol, Chuu and Yves. High probability I'm going to be satisfied with whatever they put out lol
She was, but she was also the least popular member. And I guess that can really wear on you mentally if you're in a group. Then you throw in just how prevalent plastic surgery is in SK and Kpop, and in some ways the inevitable just ends up happening. I think it's a big reason why fans are always trying to praise Umji from GFriend. Thankfully she's getting a lot of love in Japan and was even hired by Popteen to be an exclusive model for them.
I expect Chuu, Kim Lip and Heejin (maybe Jinsoul and Haseul) to have the most lines. Go Won, Vivi and Yeojin will probably get the short end of the stick.
I'm not sure it'd be the company. The reason I say that is because they aren't a new group by any means. They've been around for so long that it doesn't really seem like something they'd push for. As I said earlier, she's the least popular member of the group and in particular antis would crack jokes about her nose. Of course now she's getting a ton of attention but for all the wrong reasons. She's apparently trending very high on Korean search engines because of the change in her appearance.
Honest question, though, has there ever been a case of a group member getting surgery and becoming more popular, specially in a long running group such as Apink? I always thought that, at this point, if you are not popular that's just what it is. I'm struggling to think of a single one.
Edit: holy shit, watching some recent Apink fancams, she looks off even in motion
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If there is an example then i'm drawing a blank. I think they typically want to get something like plastic surgery out of the way during the training phase for idols. That way neither the company or artist will have to address it if there is a drastic change in appearance. The only people that will really know about it are the few that follow groups during that phase of their career.
Maybe T-ara's SoYeon, but I think it didn't make much difference like you said. AOA's ChoA too, though it was nothing too drastic and the group as a whole was not popular until after the fact.
So yeah, there really isn't much of a point, which is why I don't think this was motivated by Plan A at all.
I thought about both (plus Secret's Hana and Rainbow Hyunyoung) but as you said SoYeon's nose job happened after the whole Hwayoung bullying scandal/nonsense, so its not like it really mattered at the time. Choa's nose job (which still puzzled me, but hey if the girl wants a bigger nose more power to her) happened right before the last comeback she was part of the group, plus she was actually pretty popular/respected (up until she leaving anyway).
Lizzy also got a nose job, but it happened pretty much right after she debuted.
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