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InfiniDragon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dude that sucks so much. I hope Hara rests well and that the industry and country continues to actually move forward on mental health. They still have a ways to go (hell we still do in the States) but Mina was a sign of hope.

I really hope they can do better in supporting their talent before they start to feel like ending their lives is their only option.
 

Rahvar

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Sadly it's not simply the kpop industry. The way the treat mental illnesses and how they write about and treat celebrities in the press and online is messed up.
 

Dullahan

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I still don't get it. Watching her last Instagram live, she looked so relaxed and normal. She was talking to people, dancing, just being Hara.

I don't get it. Why did she have to do this? This is true heartbreaking shit.
 

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I still don't get it. Watching her last Instagram live, she looked so relaxed and normal. She was talking to people, dancing, just being Hara.

I don't get it. Why did she have to do this? This is true heartbreaking shit.
You have to remember that KPOP stars get a lot of training in a variety of fields and no doubt that putting a mask on is something that they are trained to do. Her looking relaxed and normal appears to have just been a mask meant to hide the inner turmoil. :/
 

crimzonflame

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Dude that sucks so much. I hope Hara rests well and that the industry and country continues to actually move forward on mental health. They still have a ways to go (hell we still do in the States) but Mina was a sign of hope.

I really hope they can do better in supporting their talent before they start to feel like ending their lives is their only option.
Sorry haven't been following kpop much over the past year or so. What do you mean by saying Mina was a sign of hope?
 

alpha

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Sorry haven't been following kpop much over the past year or so. What do you mean by saying Mina was a sign of hope?
Mina of Twice has publically been diagnosed with severe anxiety disorder and instead of the usual clown shoes behavior, the company allowed her to take an extended hiatus to focus on her mental health (posting multiple updates to say how it's her choice when she wants to return and keeping folks up to date on how she's doing) and the majority of the fanbase has been highly supportive of her.

They didn't demonize her condition or try to force her to deal with it alone, which is not common at all.
 

InfiniDragon

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Mina of Twice has publically been diagnosed with severe anxiety disorder and instead of the usual clown shoes behavior, the company allowed her to take an extended hiatus to focus on her mental health (posting multiple updates to say how it's her choice when she wants to return and keeping folks up to date on how she's doing) and the majority of the fanbase has been highly supportive of her.

They didn't demonize her condition or try to force her to deal with it alone, which is not common at all.
Yep, it was completely unexpected behavior for the industry, so maybe there's a chance for some real change soon.
 

crimzonflame

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Mina of Twice has publically been diagnosed with severe anxiety disorder and instead of the usual clown shoes behavior, the company allowed her to take an extended hiatus to focus on her mental health (posting multiple updates to say how it's her choice when she wants to return and keeping folks up to date on how she's doing) and the majority of the fanbase has been highly supportive of her.

They didn't demonize her condition or try to force her to deal with it alone, which is not common at all.
Thank you. Wish Mina all the best.
 

Rahvar

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You have to remember that KPOP stars get a lot of training in a variety of fields and no doubt that putting a mask on is something that they are trained to do. Her looking relaxed and normal appears to have just been a mask meant to hide the inner turmoil. :/
I still don't get it. Watching her last Instagram live, she looked so relaxed and normal. She was talking to people, dancing, just being Hara.

I don't get it. Why did she have to do this? This is true heartbreaking shit.

Sadly it's actually not uncommon for people that have been struggling to seem happier and more "at ease" once they have made up their minds about suicide. It's a shame and anyone who's ever had similar feelings should reach out to their local support lines, friends, family or even members here on Era. I know the mental health community support each other and I'm sure most members of Kpop Era would be willing to listen if one of us needed it.
 

Coverly

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Oct 28, 2017
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When I checked the kpop news in the morning I thought the page was stuck on an old date with the suicide news but once I realized it was another one.. this is too much.

On another note, the reason I got into kpop a few years ago was because of vr. I had my rift with no real content and then i went to youtube and other sites to see if there were any music videos in vr. For some reason, kpop heavily outnumbered any other music genre in vr and well, here I am. Back then though, it was all new and confusing. Like who is twice and Fiestar, gfriend, oh my girl, etc..

Recently I went to look again and there are some new additions by everyglow, g-idle, loona, izone, fromis9 etc.. Pretty cool. It's also nice to look at the old ones now and realize that those were major groups that I'm much more familiar with. If you guys have access to vr, it's worth trying out.



 

SunKing

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ugh. I wanna say I'm shocked but unfortunately after Sulli's passing and knowing how close they were, this isn't completely shocking. It just massively sucks. Kara was one of the first groups I got into back in 2009 when I first discovered K-Pop. I still remember seeing their MV for "Wanna" on TV in South Korea when I was there. RIP Hara, I hope you're in a better place.
 

cHinzo

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Hara already had a failed suicide attempt. I can't believe she still didn't get the necessary help she deserved. Instead, she had to write that stupid ass PR statement about 'doing better next time', act to behave like normal and had to get back to work immediately while also having to deal with loneliness and the passing of Sulli. Fuck this shit.
 

ev0

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Oct 25, 2017
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Man I'm so bummed. I somehow missed this news all morning. Kara was a GOAT group and Hara was always one of my faves. RIP.
 

LJKO

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Man I'm so bummed. I somehow missed this news all morning. Kara was a GOAT group and Hara was always one of my faves. RIP.
I was working almost all day and then I found out about 1hr ago; I'm so depress and can't concentrate at all at work right now T_T

RIP Goo Hara T_T, Condolence to her families, her friends, her KARA members, and Kamilia Fandom around the world
 

Megawarrior

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think I have made the decision to drop kpop stanning completely after this news. This one hit way too close for me. How many deaths are we gonna have to see and endure for there to be some type of major universal change.
 

GnarlyGunk

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This song is always brought up again whenever a kpop commits suicide. :( jonghyun wrote it & she sang it when he committed suicide, then Sulli & now HARA. I can’t imagine how Lee Hi must feel 😓
 

FairyEmpire

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How many people have to die before systematic changes in the Korean culture? At the very least I'd hope that such high visibility casualties will push the authorities towards stepping up much more heavily against cyberbullying, abuses, revenge porn and whatnot. The whole population would benefit from it.

RIP.
 

·feist·

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Oct 26, 2017
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I have been busy and disconnected from essentially everything the past few days.

Recently I stumbled on the full length video version of 'Midnight Queen' and thought it a good sign of positivity, since we wouldn't have had it had Hara's last attempt not gone the way it did.

Still being away from this site and other news, I randomly came across a headline I had been dreading.


This hit me in the chest. RIP, Goo Hara.



We have at least four members of K-PopEra who have contemplated suicide to varying degrees. If you know of anyone suffering, please try to do whatever you can to support them.


This shit is horrific.
 

FairyEmpire

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We have at least four members of K-PopEra who have contemplated suicide to varying degrees. If you know of anyone suffering, please try to do whatever you can to support them.
Can't be said often enough. If you have issues, seek help. If you know anyone who might be needing help, don't hesitate to be there for them. A well-timed hug, an unburdening chat, a sign of support - little things like those can save lives. I also had issues like these in the past, up until a couple years ago I was in a pretty horrible place myself. I don't think I would have made it only on my own, and when I was feeling alone I was feeling increasingly bad. The worst thing you can do to a person in need is make them feel alone, helpless.
 

JuanLatino

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How many people have to die before systematic changes in the Korean culture? At the very least I'd hope that such high visibility casualties will push the authorities towards stepping up much more heavily against cyberbullying, abuses, revenge porn and whatnot. The whole population would benefit from it.

RIP.

im following Kpop and Korean Entertainment since several years now, and i've seen so many disgusting things, that makes even the western industry look like paradise.

Knetz, the Agencys, politics - a terrible place, especially for the women over there.
a lot of Artist are puppets over there, that take over fake personas
 

FairyEmpire

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im following Kpop and Korean Entertainment since several years now, and i've seen so many disgusting things, that makes even the western industry look like paradise.

Knetz, the Agencys, politics - a terrible place, especially for the women over there.
a lot of Artist are puppets over there, that take over fake personas
I can't say I follow it too closely, but my fiancé does, she's been in South Korea for a while as well and in many ways it's so ass backwards in terms of social themes it's crazy. There's a lot of bullying, abuses, suicide rate is really high, and yet the social construct looks down at the victims and people with problems. Even with Goo Hara, how many people were blaming her for the mere existence of nude photos? How many people blamed her for not dying on the first try, "proving" it was just a stunt for attention? And guess how many people will feel guilty out of those who sent her threats and insults? How many of those people will face legal consequences? The way some of those artists are treated make the hate some artists get around here look like child's play.

The country should absolutely use the sudden visibility of these issues due to the death of multiple well-known stars to try clamping down on this circle of hate. And while they're at it, at how entertainment businesses are abusing (in more ways than one) a lot of young artists to extract the most money from them that is humanly possible. Show business is a bad place in many countries, but in South Korea in particular it feels so damn rotten. Because every death like this is blood on a lot of people's hands: the authorities that allow this to continue, the businessmen that make or break deals that can make you a God or a rotten egg you throw away in the trash, but also society as a whole that looks down at mental problems and abuse victims. I sure hope these notable deaths at the very least will change the industry for the better. It won't help Sulli or Goo Hara but it could help many more.
 

Woozies

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I feel like sone of y'all are trivializing serious issues by conflating this with an industry problem.

Sulli most definitely was.

But you need to remember Hara was sexually assaulted, blackmailed and physically abused by her non-industry boyfriend. That speaks to societal woes. Korea's entertainment industry is bad, but every enrertainment industry is bad. Korea is not particularly unique or excessively dirty compared to any other.

There are social issues that need addressing and they extend well beyond the people on tv.
 
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I will always remember her. She really went through a lot.
I feel like sone of y'all are trivializing serious issues by conflating this with an industry problem.

Sulli most definitely was.

But you need to remember Hara was sexually assaulted, blackmailed and physically abused by her non-industry boyfriend. That speaks to societal woes. Korea's entertainment industry is bad, but every enrertainment industry is bad. Korea is not particularly unique or excessively dirty compared to any other.

There are social issues that need addressing and they extend well beyond the people on tv.
She was also called basically a slut on TV because she dared to date a guy after she broke up with a different guy.

And called out for reacting emotionally to those attacks.
 

FairyEmpire

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I feel like sone of y'all are trivializing serious issues by conflating this with an industry problem.

Sulli most definitely was.

But you need to remember Hara was sexually assaulted, blackmailed and physically abused by her non-industry boyfriend. That speaks to societal woes. Korea's entertainment industry is bad, but every enrertainment industry is bad. Korea is not particularly unique or excessively dirty compared to any other.

There are social issues that need addressing and they extend well beyond the people on tv.
If you read my post I talk about plenty of issues in the Korean society as a whole. And entertainment can get away with a lot of shit because society, as a whole, accepts tons of shitty behaviour. The demonization of mental health issues, the fact you're looked upon badly if you dare having a lot of relationships in your life (as a girl mainly). When their artists receive such vile attacks, you don't exactly see their productors stand in the line of fire for their employees. Entertainment and society go hand in hand because entertainment can only get away with what society allows.
 

Shizuka

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Oct 25, 2017
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I keep forgetting about half of Girls' Generation discography because of Spotify, same with 2NE1. Are we ever getting a full collection on Spotify or is there another service with all their songs?
 

Wulfric

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ticketmaster shipped my SuperM album! Pretty awesome bonus. I thought they forgot and almost bought the CD at Target instead.