God bless, time to stream everytime I listened to that song in the last week.
밴디트 (BVNDIT) - Dumb MV
Yo this is great. Might be as good as Drip. What an amazing year this has been for gg debuts.
Can't lie, while Bada seems nice enough I would've like to see Siyeon/Xiyeon or Seungyeon as part of Hinapia (given that Nayoung and Pinky/Jieqiong/Kyulkung never seemed like feasible options for the group).
Wow, that's awful.My bias from WEE WOO, but I heard she got knee injuries that she'd never recover from and could never really dance again.
I'm obviously being selfish since at least Hinapia has 3 of my fav Pristin/Pristin V members.
As for Seungyeon, I'm wondering if she got a good deal since she has composition and songwriting skills. Outside of an incredibly restrictive contract, dunno why else she would willingly stay with a hot garbage agency like Pledis (in terms of female artists at least).
I feel like there are people in here who might relate to this nicely-edited tweet, so I'll just share it:
I feel like there are people in here who might relate to this nicely-edited tweet, so I'll just share it:
I don't get what scared her at first? Could she hear the picture falling before it fell? Did she just accidentally expose some superpower to their fans? 😂
She heard the picture falling on top of another picture, lol.I don't get what scared her at first? Could she hear the picture falling before it fell? Did she just accidentally expose some superpower to their fans? 😂
Never gonna happen considering they literally got 200k pre-orders. The postponement is CJ just waiting it out to see what the police report has revealed.They should disband them and let them go back to their companies. Most be weird being in that group now knowing they didn't really win.
What a joke. I'm glad I never watched any of those shows.
Pre-orders have been cancelled and the album has been removed.Never gonna happen considering they literally got 200k pre-orders. The postponement is CJ just waiting it out to see what the police report has revealed.
Good! They just wasted so much of her time, to the point where I don't think she can be relevant again.
Because it was 😭Yea I remember being excited for her branching out to the U.S. That feels like years ago
Understand but the amount of money they're raking in from Japan and Korea makes it too good for CJ to throw them away. They gotta pay their fines somehow!Pre-orders have been cancelled and the album has been removed.
Feels frustratingly ironic that the new Mamamoo album's concept is "what if mamamoo is not mamamoo" when they haven't really been themselves for a while now. I still enjoy them, but like, bring back the funky jazz, RBW. I'm begging you.
Does anyone have a rundown or recap on the MNET stuff I can look at? I don't usually keep up with this stuff.
Felt like this warranted another post so sorry for double posting.
On the 11th, an official from Mnet told News1, "While it is true that IZ*ONE's comeback has been postponed, there have been no discussions regarding their a outlet (cancel dongA) reported that IZ*ONE and X1 were in the process of disbanding. Apparently, each members' agencies were talking about pulling members from the group. However, Mnet said there was no actual discussion regarding disbandment.
July 2019
Produce X 101 results came out resulting in the debut of X1. This prompted some controversy because the votes were clearly tampered with.
Numbers were also divisible by a certain factor. This prompted some X1 fans to say that the votes were inflated to make it seem like their debut would be bigger. Mnet's response was that the number of votes was tampered with but the final lineup was accurate. All agencies of the top 20 labels agreed to not change X1's lineup.
August 2019
A class lawsuit was filed as live voting costed 100Won per vote, thus allowing voters to file for fraud. A search warrant was then filed on August 20th through all CJE&M offices and a text voting company. Recordings of voting manipulation for previous seasons were found, thus extending the police's reach to previous seasons of Produce as well as other Mnet survival shows like Show Me The Money, Idol School and Superstar K. MBC investigative show PD Note asked for people to come out with information on August 20th.
X1 then debuted around this time but were blocked from performing at SBS Inkigayo, MBC Music Core and KBS Music Bank.
IZ*ONE had announced their third Japanese single around this time, presumably to avoid voting manipulation controversy as well as the tie in with X1's debut.
September 2019
It was then reported that rigging might have occurred since Episode 2 of Produce X 101.
Mnet's then-current survival show Queendom was under fire due to vote manipulation suspicion (). Starship, Woollim and MBK were then raided by the police on September 30th.G-IDLE placing last with Fire
Starship
Woollim
- Jang Wonyoung (IZ*ONE)
- Ahn Yujin (IZ*ONE)
- Song Hyeongjun (X1)
- Kang Minhee (X1)
MBK
- Kwon Eunbi (IZ*ONE)
- Kim Chaewon (IZ*ONE)
- Cha Junho (X1)
After these raids, police confirmed that they found evidence of vote manipulation. A lawyer has stated that the real rankings of Produce will be revealed and that police have also confirmed that seizures have occurred at all (but AKS in Japan) labels associated with PRODUCE 48's final debut group IZ*ONE.
- Lee Hangyul (X1)
- Nam Dohyeon (X1)
October 2019
On October 1, 2019, MBC released a teaser for their investigative show PD Note.
Police then conducted a search and seizure at all X1 and IZ*ONE members' labels. Contestants from Produce X 101 and Idol School then started to come out talking about advantages trainees that were favoured to debut received, such as knowing their Pick Me song beforehand so fully being able to comprehensively recite lyrics before the rest of the trainees. Idol School trainees further revealed bad conditions such as wearing summer clothing during the winter, no food allowed, weren't able to attend school regularly, etc.
Lee Haein, a previous contestant of Produce 101 S1 and Idol School that was signed to Stone was promised to debut in FROMIS_9 (the final Idol School group) but was eliminated and made to do a "goodbye" speech, one in which none of the other eliminated contestants did. Her father revealed this.
Some labels were then revealed trying to pull trainees out of PRODUCE X, which PLAN A Choi Byungchan (Victon) successfully pulled off. Netizens then gathered evidence the same day about rigged rankings as well as grade evaluations on both PRODUCE 48 and PRODUCE X 101.
Lee Haein later on revealed more information such as
Produce 101
Idol School
- The changing of missions during Produce 101. (From Best Member pick to Team Battle)
- Their team having to sing live whereas the other team got to lip-sync.
She uploaded an Instagram post the same day which was later removed. Yubseyo translated the post.
- Scripted scenes such as dancing to music which was not playing.
- Idol School contestants weren't allowed to go home and had to stay at the official centre (unlike Produce 101).
- No human rights during filming. Contestants had to steal film crew's food leftovers to survive.
- Film crew didn't comply with laws as they were filming underage contestants after hours.
- Skin problems were raised due to the dorms not having any sunlight access.
- Contracts were offered during the show's duration.
- Showrunners then tried to persuade a member to debut even though she didn't want to.
On October 15, MBC broadcasted their vote rigging scandal special on PD Note. Video testimonies from Lee Haein as well as anonymous staff members were broadcast.
The day after, the KCSC revealed that fines of upto 30 million won ($25,918USD) would be imposed.
Police investigation then continued with staff members phones getting confiscated and searched through.
On October 30th, during IZ*ONE's anniversary live, a Korean comeback was announced to be released on November 11th, 2019 showing their Concept Trailer: When IZ your BLOOMing moment?
November 2019
Police then requested a travel ban on PRODUCE PDs as well as Starship Entertainment executives, as well as arrest warrants for some PRODUCE X staff.
Furthermore, the main PD Ahn Joon Young then had his arrest warrant approved on November 5th. Seoul Police then conducted new search and seizures in all labels relating to Produce X.
IZ*ONE then announced a BLOOM*IZ comeback show on Mnet Korea and Mnet Japan as well as digital channels such as Mnet K-Pop's YouTube channel, Stone Music Entertainment's YouTube channel and M2's YouTube channel.
Ahn Joon Young (PD) and Kim Young Bum (Chief PD) were then arrested on November 5th. SBS News then reported that PDs were trying to destroy evidence about vote manipulation. It was then later reported that the PDs received sexual favours from the label's executives and workers (presumably to rig a member into the final lineup).
Ahn Joon Young then revealed that he manipulated results for PRODUCE 48 and PRODUCE X 101, denying that manipulation occurred in PRODUCE 101 S1 and PRODUCE 101 S2.
Mnet then made a response in regards to future survival shows including future PRODUCE seasons, stating that a new observer system will be implemented to improve transparency as well as protect votes. Police then announced to also investigate Mnet staff in their involvement with the voting scandal. Ahn Joon Young was shown to be handcuffed on this day (November 6th).
Mnet then released a statement on their current survival turned reality show To Be World Klass stating that no Messenger Votes will be undertaken. X1 was revealed to not sign an exclusivity contract with CJ yet (as IZ*ONE did last year until six months after their debut), prompting fans concerns of early disbandment.
IZ*ONE then had a complete shitshow.
BLOOM*IZ was announced to be postponed indefinitely until future notice. All pre-orders were thus cancelled and refunded.
- Their media showcase was cancelled.
- Their BLOOM*IZ comeback show that they filmed on November 7th's broadcast was scheduled to be cancelled, then postponed.
- JTBC's Idol Room revealed that IZ*ONE's episode would not air.
- MBC's My Little Television 2 revealed that IZ*ONE's episode would not air.
- Furthermore, their MC being Ahn Yujin would be edited out following this week's episode.
- Sponsors were rumoured to cancel IZ*ONE but have released statements stating that they are not terminating sponsor contracts.
- Netflix's Busted revealed to not change any content relating to their IZ*ONE episode.
X1 was announced to be still attending the V Live Awards V Heartbeat event on November 16th.
Previous PRODUCE trainees then gave statements on what happened during the show such as Park HeeSeok and Niwa Shiori. Niwa Shiori further confirmed other member's statements on how certain members already knew the choreo and lyrics before it was announced.
Mamamoo (Queendom winner) then announced they would postpone their comeback to future notice.
Edit (8/11/19):
There have been discussions at Mnet on whether IZ*ONE and X1 will attend MAMA.
It wasn't directed at me, but thanks for the incredible recap. I only drop by this thread every now and then and I didn't really understand what this whole vote rigging theme was (not knowing the artists involved either tbh). Some real slimy shit, but it's great to see that at least the police are taking actual actions to stop it. I know for a fact (I know somebody who was the victim of this personally) talent shows in many countries are in one way or another rigged (if not by pure vote manipulation through last-minute rule changes, oddly convenient mixing issues that cripples an artist's chances, picks based on connections or dramatic backstories as opposed to talent, etc.), which makes it hard to care about them past the couple hours entertainment they offer. Sucks to see actual votes being rigged though because this means that even when the public actually decides which artist they care most about (thus potentially showing which of them would sell better), labels/organizers/showrunners still know better :\
Mamamoo (Queendom winner) then announced they would postpone their comeback to future notice.
Why would Mamamoo postpone their comeback? They have nothing to do with the Produce series.
Mnet show, Mnet has voting manipulated thus Queendom is now also under suspicion and thus also under police jurisdiction
Mnet show, Mnet has voting manipulated thus Queendom is now also under suspicion and thus also under police jurisdiction
July 2019
Produce X 101 results came out resulting in the debut of X1. This prompted some controversy because the votes were clearly tampered with.
Numbers were also divisible by a certain factor. This prompted some X1 fans to say that the votes were inflated to make it seem like their debut would be bigger. Mnet's response was that the number of votes was tampered with but the final lineup was accurate. All agencies of the top 20 labels agreed to not change X1's lineup.
August 2019
A class lawsuit was filed as live voting costed 100Won per vote, thus allowing voters to file for fraud. A search warrant was then filed on August 20th through all CJE&M offices and a text voting company. Recordings of voting manipulation for previous seasons were found, thus extending the police's reach to previous seasons of Produce as well as other Mnet survival shows like Show Me The Money, Idol School and Superstar K. MBC investigative show PD Note asked for people to come out with information on August 20th.
X1 then debuted around this time but were blocked from performing at SBS Inkigayo, MBC Music Core and KBS Music Bank.
IZ*ONE had announced their third Japanese single around this time, presumably to avoid voting manipulation controversy as well as the tie in with X1's debut.
September 2019
It was then reported that rigging might have occurred since Episode 2 of Produce X 101.
Mnet's then-current survival show Queendom was under fire due to vote manipulation suspicion (). Starship, Woollim and MBK were then raided by the police on September 30th.G-IDLE placing last with Fire
Starship
Woollim
- Jang Wonyoung (IZ*ONE)
- Ahn Yujin (IZ*ONE)
- Song Hyeongjun (X1)
- Kang Minhee (X1)
MBK
- Kwon Eunbi (IZ*ONE)
- Kim Chaewon (IZ*ONE)
- Cha Junho (X1)
After these raids, police confirmed that they found evidence of vote manipulation. A lawyer has stated that the real rankings of Produce will be revealed and that police have also confirmed that seizures have occurred at all (but AKS in Japan) labels associated with PRODUCE 48's final debut group IZ*ONE.
- Lee Hangyul (X1)
- Nam Dohyeon (X1)
October 2019
On October 1, 2019, MBC released a teaser for their investigative show PD Note.
Police then conducted a search and seizure at all X1 and IZ*ONE members' labels. Contestants from Produce X 101 and Idol School then started to come out talking about advantages trainees that were favoured to debut received, such as knowing their Pick Me song beforehand so fully being able to comprehensively recite lyrics before the rest of the trainees. Idol School trainees further revealed bad conditions such as wearing summer clothing during the winter, no food allowed, weren't able to attend school regularly, etc.
Lee Haein, a previous contestant of Produce 101 S1 and Idol School that was signed to Stone was promised to debut in FROMIS_9 (the final Idol School group) but was eliminated and made to do a "goodbye" speech, one in which none of the other eliminated contestants did. Her father revealed this.
Some labels were then revealed trying to pull trainees out of PRODUCE X, which PLAN A Choi Byungchan (Victon) successfully pulled off. Netizens then gathered evidence the same day about rigged rankings as well as grade evaluations on both PRODUCE 48 and PRODUCE X 101.
Lee Haein later on revealed more information such as
Produce 101
Idol School
- The changing of missions during Produce 101. (From Best Member pick to Team Battle)
- Their team having to sing live whereas the other team got to lip-sync.
She uploaded an Instagram post the same day which was later removed. Yubseyo translated the post.
- Scripted scenes such as dancing to music which was not playing.
- Idol School contestants weren't allowed to go home and had to stay at the official centre (unlike Produce 101).
- No human rights during filming. Contestants had to steal film crew's food leftovers to survive.
- Film crew didn't comply with laws as they were filming underage contestants after hours.
- Skin problems were raised due to the dorms not having any sunlight access.
- Contracts were offered during the show's duration.
- Showrunners then tried to persuade a member to debut even though she didn't want to.
On October 15, MBC broadcasted their vote rigging scandal special on PD Note. Video testimonies from Lee Haein as well as anonymous staff members were broadcast.
The day after, the KCSC revealed that fines of upto 30 million won ($25,918USD) would be imposed.
Police investigation then continued with staff members phones getting confiscated and searched through.
On October 30th, during IZ*ONE's anniversary live, a Korean comeback was announced to be released on November 11th, 2019 showing their Concept Trailer: When IZ your BLOOMing moment?
November 2019
Police then requested a travel ban on PRODUCE PDs as well as Starship Entertainment executives, as well as arrest warrants for some PRODUCE X staff.
Furthermore, the main PD Ahn Joon Young then had his arrest warrant approved on November 5th. Seoul Police then conducted new search and seizures in all labels relating to Produce X.
IZ*ONE then announced a BLOOM*IZ comeback show on Mnet Korea and Mnet Japan as well as digital channels such as Mnet K-Pop's YouTube channel, Stone Music Entertainment's YouTube channel and M2's YouTube channel.
Ahn Joon Young (PD) and Kim Young Bum (Chief PD) were then arrested on November 5th. SBS News then reported that PDs were trying to destroy evidence about vote manipulation. It was then later reported that the PDs received sexual favours from the label's executives and workers (presumably to rig a member into the final lineup).
Ahn Joon Young then revealed that he manipulated results for PRODUCE 48 and PRODUCE X 101, denying that manipulation occurred in PRODUCE 101 S1 and PRODUCE 101 S2.
Mnet then made a response in regards to future survival shows including future PRODUCE seasons, stating that a new observer system will be implemented to improve transparency as well as protect votes. Police then announced to also investigate Mnet staff in their involvement with the voting scandal. Ahn Joon Young was shown to be handcuffed on this day (November 6th).
Mnet then released a statement on their current survival turned reality show To Be World Klass stating that no Messenger Votes will be undertaken. X1 was revealed to not sign an exclusivity contract with CJ yet (as IZ*ONE did last year until six months after their debut), prompting fans concerns of early disbandment.
IZ*ONE then had a complete shitshow.
BLOOM*IZ was announced to be postponed indefinitely until future notice. All pre-orders were thus cancelled and refunded.
- Their media showcase was cancelled.
- Their BLOOM*IZ comeback show that they filmed on November 7th's broadcast was scheduled to be cancelled, then postponed.
- JTBC's Idol Room revealed that IZ*ONE's episode would not air.
- MBC's My Little Television 2 revealed that IZ*ONE's episode would not air.
- Furthermore, their MC being Ahn Yujin would be edited out following this week's episode.
- Sponsors were rumoured to cancel IZ*ONE but have released statements stating that they are not terminating sponsor contracts.
- Netflix's Busted revealed to not change any content relating to their IZ*ONE episode.
X1 was announced to be still attending the V Live Awards V Heartbeat event on November 16th.
Previous PRODUCE trainees then gave statements on what happened during the show such as Park HeeSeok and Niwa Shiori. Niwa Shiori further confirmed other member's statements on how certain members already knew the choreo and lyrics before it was announced.
Mamamoo (Queendom winner) then announced they would postpone their comeback to future notice.
Edit (8/11/19):
There have been discussions at Mnet on whether IZ*ONE and X1 will attend MAMA.
Edit (9/11/19):
IZ*ONE's movie "Eyes on Me" has been postponed.