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Kamala Harris is dropping out of the 2020 presidential race
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I mean, probably? most every criticism of M4A uses some kind of right wing framing to disingenuously argue against it like harping on tax increases or conflating private insurance with the actual health care provided
They're not the only ones. It is very telling that when someone like Ilhan Omar says anything, her ability to work is put into question with words like:
"She has horrible political instinct"
And it is also telling that said criticism is usually only directed at particular progressive women of color.
The word Tokenism comes to mind. Because that's all a lot of people see. Cosmetic representation as a replacement for progressive policy.
I've been saying that it is, but in this case, it isn't a damn meme.
These are probably the biggest ones, but don't torture yourself like that.
Congresswoman Omar ignites new anti-Semitism controversy with comments on AIPAC
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Knock yourself out.
I mean it, better to get knocked unconscious than sit through the dozens of posts joining in with the disingenuous right wing smear campaign while trying to frame it as being galaxy brain centrist pragmatism.
Y'all just had to remind me that Ichthy's still around.
Like...how??? I've seen members get perma'd for less.
Like...how??? I've seen members get perma'd for less.
Yeah rereading that is incredibly ironic considering the point (?) he was trying to make today.
I usually just lurk, but whenever I see him enter a thread I have to bail because I know he'll make bad faith arguments and post twice as much as anyone else to hijack the thread.
I usually just lurk, but whenever I see him enter a thread I have to bail because I know he'll make bad faith arguments and post twice as much as anyone else to hijack the thread.
You'd think after his xenophobia that he would have just stayed gone, but alas.
"This whole Russia thing is a sham" is exceptionally boomer, friendo
More like "saying that Tulsi is a Russian asset is insane" which is what imcfigs said
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get em, get that ass!
Boomers are the primary people who care about the Russia shit, bucko. Younger people who don't watch cable news care exponentially less about it.
Will Menaker is not a Tulsi fan, his podcast has put her on blast many times in the past. His point there is it's gratifying to see people pushed by the Dem party with boiler plate politics be outlasted by cranks with no party buy-in.
So as long as this radically antigay cultist damages "candidates you think are inferior" you're happy for the, uh, work she's doing? Also, the "chaotic energy" talk is giving me legit Marianne Williamson vibes.
Now this is a boomer thing to say. The kids these day all talk about chaotic energy memes
Actually, saying "kids these days" is an extremely boomer thing to say.
Nah, I just found that post corny in a Williamson way.
The energy thing was obviously facetious, c'mon. The point is her incoherent politics are currently serving what I think is a useful purpose, and since I have zero concern about her becoming president, neither her policy proposals nor personal views and moral character have any bearing on how I go about my day. Politics is fundamentally about obtaining and using power, not about the personal qualities of individual political actors, so I don't see any real reason not to take some mild amusement in seeing candidates I think are bad and do not want to win the primary taken down by a crank who's not currently a threat to anyone or anything. That I thought Christie murdering Rubio in 2016 was extremely funny and satisfying is not an endorsement of that absolute ghoul, either.
I'm sorry. I should call them TikTok teens. Dictatorship of the teen is upon us
Great, so white nationalist Tucker Carlson's favorite candidate-- one who has been empowered by right wing extremists-- is wielding that power in a way that you enjoy. Super gross to me but hey, you do you.
I believe he was the one who I asked if he would convince his moderate friends to vote Sanders, and said he never would.
This was in arguing that Biden was more electable and we lefty folks need to be willing to vote against Trump.
I think about the unstated contradiction in his reasoning a lot
I remember when he blamed the kids in the sunrise movement for not doing better to convince the democrats in power to do better on climate change
Because it violated this staff post Cerium made in the Socialist and PoliEra OTs (and no where else)
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referring to a certain thread by name in any pejorative fashion has been a bannable offense for a while now. draw your own conclusions as to why
Yeah, has Kaylaz even stopped by our OT to... yunno... see staff post?
And how about Bronx-Man? Is it wrong to cheer on when posters get banned now? I thought we were pretty chill with that.
I would be less worried about Biden if Harris is his VP. Sets her up for the nomination in 2024 (Beto as VP).
Ehn. She needs to deal with her record a little better and stop these weird rapidfire flip flops.
The VP is a largely powerless role and Harris being there wouldn't change anything about his administration.
Not necessarily. This is a gross example, but Cheney had a lot of power and a lot of sway over the oval office.
Can I make a separate thread criticizing a lopsided moderation policy then?
Yeah there are a few exceptions to the rule but the assumption should never be that the VP will fix a bad President
I mean it also seems that Pence has a lot of sway, honestly, although that feels connected to a larger archconservative body.
I would definitely not assume that any VP would "fix" a bad president. Biden is a bad choice and even a great VP, at least for me, isn't going to make him suddenly an attractive candidate. That said, I do really wish Harris was better and had more accountability and had made more amends for past poor choices.
two factual things about Kamala Harris:
1) is a cop
2) was a candidate for the democratic nomination
1) is a cop
2) was a candidate for the democratic nomination
My goodness, all these times I've seen "Attempts to provoke one another and keep the fighting going" and I never said anything. It all stops now.
True, but I look at Biden as at best a transitional president. I doubt he would run for a second term. So, assuming he wins the presidency, his VP choice is very important, as that person likely becomes the frontrunner in 2024 (assuming Biden's administration isn't a shit show). Of the likely choices he could choose (he mentioned it'd be ridiculous to not have a PoC woman as a running mate), Kamala would be a great choice.
That said, there are other concerns (his age, effect on brain surgery he had, rigors of office) that make me want a very capable VP. Additionally, the Senate may be close enough that the VP's job actually may be important in order to push legislation through.
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I assume it would apply to both poliera and socialism-era, it's just hard to tell because, with one or two notable exceptions, poliera posters are not given to making sweeping attacks on socialism-era as a community.
Draw your own conclusions as to why!
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Them's some big assumptions as to Biden's overall goals and ambition. I mean feel free to open up to a Biden/Kamala ticket but don't set your hopes too high.
I'm used to it. I've been routinely disappointed this year, I was a Beto (specifically Beto/Harris ticket) supporter, after all.
Damn, well my friend if you're tired of being disappointed, maybe it's time to make a change. Might I recommend to you one Mr. Bernard Sanders as a candidate of choice?
