its like this with every release
graduation was a shallow piece of trash
808s was just him auto tune crooning
Yeezus was static and everyone hated it and it had a keef feature
TLOP was an unfinished mess
And now this one is worse.
fuck sake
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its like this with every release
graduation was a shallow piece of trash
808s was just him auto tune crooning
Yeezus was static and everyone hated it and it had a keef feature
TLOP was an unfinished mess
And now this one is worse.
fuck sake
This is my only fave song on album. Makes me look forward to his album with cudi.
Violent Crimes kind of rubbed me the wrong way after the #MeToo line from Yikes
Some good stuff here and there and the last 3 songs were pretty great, but all the good parts are either the beats or the features basically, ye himself hasnt impressed me outside of production here.
We've known Kanye is bipolar ever since TLOP. Hell we've arguably known since way before that.
There's no conclusive thematic bent to be found here, it's just texture, stuff that only crops up every once in a while on this album alongside a whole bunch of other shit he wants to talk about (like that line about #MeToo and his TMZ appearance). TLOP told me more about his state of mind than this ever did, and whatever this album may tell you about his state of mind is about as shallow of a proclamation as the hilarious tumblr image he passes for being album art.
it doesn't need a "conclusive thematic bent," whatever that even is, to be about something.
does every single line have to be about it?
i didn't think it was shallow at all
Part of his music has always been that duality though, it's hamfistedly right there on the cover art for TLOP
I've never had a problem taking each song as they come, because you're right, there would be all sorts of contradiction otherwise
That quote on the album looks like some shit you would see on a picture of a minion that was posted on Facebook by a 42 year old
808s and Yeezus were also forward thinking albums with inventive ideas sonically. What does this album do that can be so divisive other than Kanye still being a garbage lyricist? It's just a rehash of the more spiritual elements of TLOP, another album that delved into his mental health, and as messy as it was it flowed better and resonated more than these bloated 20 minutes of meandering nothing.
I like introspective Kanye as much as anyone else, it's when he's at his most interesting creatively, but at least say something of substance about the album other than 'you just don't get it man' which is kinda disturbing when we're talking about suffering from bipolar disorder, as much as it relates to you personally.
I specifically never said you or anyone else endorsed Trump. You are supporting Kanye's worldview that led him to being a MAGA asshole. Kanye has always pushed the view that as an artist he can't be constrained by other people's rules or morality. That clearly includes embracing reactionary garbage like his new bestie Candace Owens. Anyone who can't see the difference shouldn't call other people disingenuous or stupid.
Good for you. Pretending as if people who don't like it just don't "understand it" is still a hilarious claim to make. I understand it perfectly fine, and it still feels like an album Kanye scoopidy pooped out in a weekend.
Yikes is the only song I really like here. I mean, none of it sounds terrible really, but most of it isn't catching my ear very well either.
Also, thank GOD 6ix9ine isn't on this shit after all. That kid is garbage.
Also, thank GOD 6ix9ine isn't on this shit after all. That kid is garbage.
Pusha hyped the shit out of this release but I'm falling asleep. Will give another run but for now it's just not pulling me in.
"You need to be depressed/mentally ill in order to understand this album" is one of the wackest defenses for an album I've ever heard.
This is...not good. It's not bad, but it lacks the polish of previous albums (likely the product of making 5 albums at once). The production is largely fine to good, but everything else is just off. Outside of the last track I'm not sure anything here is even "very good."
After 4 listens im ready to say this album is absolutely phenomenal.
The production alone makes it great
The topic material of the songs is what elevates it
Kanye being vulnerable and discussing his struggles with mental issues, being a husband, a father
I love TLOP but it makes TLOP look so much worse in hindsight.
I put ye somewhere next to mbdtf, college dropout, late registration
Someone on twitter was talking about how so far his discography has kind of gone in trilogies, and I agree that this is definitely the follow up to TLOP topically and sonically
It being so short is its biggest strength and biggest weakness at the same time
The production alone makes it great
The topic material of the songs is what elevates it
Kanye being vulnerable and discussing his struggles with mental issues, being a husband, a father
I love TLOP but it makes TLOP look so much worse in hindsight.
I put ye somewhere next to mbdtf, college dropout, late registration
Someone on twitter was talking about how so far his discography has kind of gone in trilogies, and I agree that this is definitely the follow up to TLOP topically and sonically
It being so short is its biggest strength and biggest weakness at the same time
Of course his circle is gonna yes man each other's releases lol.
It's not that this is bad per say, but I have the same problem with it that I had with TLOP.
You can feel at multiple points there is an amazing song but then the song is over. It's like it's a half assed unfinished group of songs, and that's exactly what TLOP was (minus a few tracks that did feel complete).
You can feel at multiple points there is an amazing song but then the song is over. It's like it's a half assed unfinished group of songs, and that's exactly what TLOP was (minus a few tracks that did feel complete).
I went to bed directly after the first play of the livestream. Im one of the few who actually loved TLOP, my wifi name is still ultralightbeam lmao. I need to listen to this one again (in a minute) but on first listen I thought the production was straight up amazing, with the lyrics in front of it being pretty cringy in half the album
If Kanye's name wasn't attached to this, nobody would give a fuck about these tracks. They are not bad, the production is mostly fine, but everything else is mediocre at best.
Fuck is this "basura trio" bullshit, jmon FZZ.
The whole album is some of Kanye's best work IMO.
The whole album is some of Kanye's best work IMO.
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This is where I draw the line. No no no no no.
I enjoy this album overall, but it has maybe 8 minutes of greatness, compared to the 9 minutes of greatness from Runaway.
Yeah, one song is better than the entirety of Ye.
so is this.
the lyrics are pretty good. better than TLOP overall. some of them are just OK, and some of them are excellent.
what am i supposed to say? it's a beautiful album. the melodies are beautiful. the music is touching. the harmonies and textures are interesting. the experience of listening to the album emulates the feelings behind a manic episode to me. how do i explain that?
it might have been if that was what i actually said
twisting my words and that's not what I said but OK
yeeeep. took me 4 listens for this to click with me.
loving this right now. it's an unabashedly sombre album mood wise
I respect your opinion, I was just expressing my own takeaway.
I can understand if this album doesnt strike a chord with some people, but personally the entire album discusses things that I can heavily relate to in my personal life.
Wow this is actually really bad.
The songs are all pretty much meh. Not bad or good. Just meh. Plain boring.
What makes it bad to me is the amount of tracks. You have a 7 songs album and it sounds mediocre overall -> bad.
Also ITAKY should be a intro and a song so people don't have to listen to a lunatics rant for 2 minutes before the song starts or have to skip over it every time.
TLOP is god tier in comparison.
The songs are all pretty much meh. Not bad or good. Just meh. Plain boring.
What makes it bad to me is the amount of tracks. You have a 7 songs album and it sounds mediocre overall -> bad.
Also ITAKY should be a intro and a song so people don't have to listen to a lunatics rant for 2 minutes before the song starts or have to skip over it every time.
TLOP is god tier in comparison.
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