Kanye West teases new album

Novel · Mar 12, 2019

Gordon's Tulpa said:
*sigh* By what measure?

The measure of die hard Ye fans who knows the truth that he saved America and the world by singlehandedly inspiring Obama to run for office.
I mean, if that does't make him the best artist ever, what possibly could?
Subjective opinion on music doesn't exist, he's the best and the best means the best means the best. Gosh.

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

Gordon's Tulpa said:
*sigh* By what measure?

By every measure

A combination of numbers, awards, critical reception, insane amount of influence on pop and rap music, versatility, consistency

bixio · Mar 12, 2019

Novel said:
The measure of die hard Ye fans who knows the truth that he saved America and the world by singlehandedly inspiring Obama to run for office.
I mean, if that does't make him the best artist ever, what possibly could?
Subjective opinion on music doesn't exist, he's the best and the best means the best means the best. Gosh.

Who's the best modern recording artist in your book, Novel?

Novel · Mar 12, 2019

bixio said:
Who's the best modern recording artist in your book, Novel?

You can like the guy all you want. My issue is just with insulting people over either liking something else or calling their opinions basically trash or wrong or not possibly a hip-hop listener if they may not like him as much as you two do.

bixio · Mar 12, 2019

Only a dumb talentless idiot would work with Kanye though

Servbot24 said:
Problem is there's no reason to think we'll get that bar. He's still more likely to shout out Candice Owens.

He said Owens used him though. If there's a bar about her it's going to be calling her a ho.

8byte · Mar 12, 2019

I didn't expect to come in this thread and see things like "Kanye never made bad music" or "Kanye got Obama elected".

This is certainly a thread.

Novel · Mar 12, 2019

bixio said:
Only a dumb talentless idiot would work with Kanye though

Who said that exactly? I don't think anyone here has said that.

8byte said:
I didn't expect to come in this thread and see things like "Kanye never made bad music" or "Kanye got Obama elected".

This is certainly a thread.

It certainly is.

Laserdisk · Mar 12, 2019

ViewtifulJC said:
Can't be worse than his last album

Wanna bet?
Plus he will drag the mini disc name in the dirt

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

Novel said:
You seem to want to ignore my point consistently.

You're convinced a celebrities impact is universal and completely divorced from context

It's not.

See: black vote turn out during the midterms

bixio · Mar 12, 2019

8byte said:
I didn't expect to come in this thread and see things like "Kanye never made bad music" or "Kanye got Obama elected".

This is certainly a thread.

Point me to the Kanye bad music please. I'll wait.

Novel said:
You can like the guy all you want. My issue is just with insulting people over either liking something else or calling their opinions basically trash or wrong or not possibly a hip-hop listener if they may not like him as much as you two do.

No one insulted anyone. In my experience the people who relentlessly shit on Kanye either A. don't listen to hip hop or B. Let politics decide everything
Neither one of those options gets a me to have much respect for your opinion. If there's a C I'm all ears.

Servbot24 · Mar 12, 2019

bixio said:
Point me to the Kanye bad music please. I'll wait.

Drunk & Hot Girls

Fevaweva · Mar 12, 2019

As someone with a Kanye inspired avatar, I would just like to say that not all Kanye West fans are insane people who believe he inspired Obama to run for president or never made bad music.

bixio · Mar 12, 2019

Fevaweva said:
As someone with a Kanye inspired avatar, I would just like to say that not all Kanye West fans are insane people who believe he inspired Obama to run for president or never made bad music.

You also have gross ass Hov in your avatar, the man who literally cheated on Beyoncé.

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

Novel whenever someone asks for receipts

bixio · Mar 12, 2019

Servbot24 said:
Drunk & Hot Girls

Drink & Hot girls fucking slaps and is the beginning of the MBDTF style god level production. Bite your tounge.

Novel · Mar 12, 2019

coconut milk said:
You're convinced a celebrities impact is universal and completely divorced from context

It's not.

See: black vote turn out during the midterms

And you're convinced there's no such thing as subjective taste in music and that Kanye doesn't genuinely hold his views or if he does, it's no big deal which comes very eerily close to defending his views which you claimed to not be doing. Despite your consistent insistence, it just doesn't work that way. It's disturbing to excuse him in this kind of manner. The hypocrisy is the issue for me here. You're doing anything to not acknowledge it.

ViewtifulJC · Mar 12, 2019

Fevaweva said:
As someone with a Kanye inspired avatar, I would just like to say that not all Kanye West fans are insane people who believe he inspired Obama to run for president or never made bad music.

I thought we could all come to agreement that Ye was definitely wack

Fevaweva · Mar 12, 2019

bixio said:
You also have gross ass Hov in your avatar, the man who literally cheated on Beyoncé.

I'd take cheating on your wife over wearing a MAGA hat and espousing Trumpian rhetoric any day of the week.

ViewtifulJC said:
I thought we could all come to agreement that Ye was definitely wack

And I agree with that opinion. First time Kanye has disappointed me with his solo material.

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

Servbot24 said:
Drunk & Hot Girls

Inventive use of an incredible sample, left field and haunting Mos Def bridge and a very sus yet catchy hook

great song

Novel · Mar 12, 2019

bixio said:
No one insulted anyone. In my experience the people who relentlessly shit on Kanye either A. don't listen to hip hop or B. Let politics decide everything
Neither one of those options gets a me to have much respect for your opinion. If there's a C I'm all ears.

coconut milk has, numerous times, over music opinions.

In my experience, people who shit on Kanye: A) Do listen to hip-hop and just have different opinions than you do. or B) Care about politics because that shit directly impacts their lives, their friends lives and the future. To act like it's not important is just weird.

You can still like the guy all you want. I'm not arguing against that. Just this mentality that Kanye is untouchable, makes only good music and is some sort of god.

coconut milk said:
Novel whenever someone asks for receipts

Weird, that looks like you whenever discussing your hypocrisy comes up/his political views. :thinks: Congrats, I'm not going to bother with you further. It's clear you don't want to own up to or face what you're arguing in a intellectually honest manner.

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

Fevaweva said:
I'd take cheating on your wife over wearing a MAGA hat and espousing Trumpian rhetoric any day of the week.

https://www.romper.com/p/jay-zs-apology-for-beyonces-miscarriages-in-444-will-wreck-you-67775

Although she's a very private person who rarely grants interviews, Beyoncé has been uncharacteristically candid about miscarrying before giving birth to her oldest child, daughter Blue Ivy, in 2012. But apparently it happened again, and JAY-Z's apology for Beyoncé's miscarriages in 4:44 is particularly tragic,

all your favs are trash. i just don't pretend

bixio · Mar 12, 2019

Fevaweva said:
I'd take cheating on your wife over wearing a MAGA hat and espousing Trumpian rhetoric any day of the week.

And I agree with that opinion. First time Kanye has disappointed me with his solo material.

Jay Z would be nothing without Kanye. As evidenced by now, as his career died when he stopped working with Ye. Also, it's not just some wife, it's BEYONCÉ bro. He cheated on Beyoncé, someone 10 times better looking than him. He shouldn't even have her to begin with and he cheated on the goddess queen bey. Horrible. So what Ye put the MAGA hat on during a mental breakdown. He hasn't even tweeted in 2019. We can see where Yandhi era takes us, so far that's away from the politics.

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

Novel said:
And you're convinced there's no such thing as subjective taste in music and that Kanye doesn't genuinely hold his views or if he does, it's no big deal which comes very eerily close to defending his views which you claimed to not be doing. Despite your consistent insistence, it just doesn't work that way. It's disturbing to excuse him in this kind of manner. The hypocrisy is the issue for me here. You're doing anything to not acknowledge it.

Novel said:
Weird, that looks like you whenever discussing your hypocrisy comes up/his political views. :thinks: Congrats, I'm not going to bother with you further. It's clear you don't want to own up to or face what you're arguing in a intellectually honest manner.

Ok to summarise:

1. His views imo were probably marketing. He has stated (numerous times, see charlamagnes interivew) that he doesn't actually know of any Trump policies.

2. Regardless, those are shitty views

3. His shitty views hasn't done anything to impact black voter turnout. There's been no actual impact over his tweets.

How on earth is that excusing anything???

(my posts regarding peoples taste in music was clearly tongue in cheek, stop being so sensitive :D)

Novel · Mar 12, 2019

bixio said:
Who's the best modern recording artist in your book, Novel?

As for my personal favorite/best artist, to answer your earlier question, bixio. It varies widely. I listen to numerous artists across numerous genres and frankly it's hard for me to pin down to any singular person or group.

I even purposefully try to find new music often to expand what I'm listening to. Which typically means those genres get even more artists/bands added to them that I really admire. I'll get stuck on really liking some hip-hop artist or folk punk or synthwave or math rock group or etc. etc. etc. etc., listen to largely just them for a while, then expand out again.

My music tastes largely just snowball and I just keep adding artists I love onto the list. There's a lot of artists I respect and love so.....yea. Some more than others, sure, but by and large I can't easily narrow it down.

8byte · Mar 12, 2019

bixio said:
Point me to the Kanye bad music please. I'll wait.

I'll get you a dictionary instead so you can look up "subjectivity". Might help you out.

Swoopity poop ✌🏼

CoolOff · Mar 12, 2019

There's two people in here defending Drunk & Hot Girls? Wow.

Fevaweva · Mar 12, 2019

coconut milk said:
https://www.romper.com/p/jay-zs-apology-for-beyonces-miscarriages-in-444-will-wreck-you-67775

all your favs are trash. i just don't pretend

bixio said:
Jay Z would be nothing without Kanye. As evidenced by now, as his career died when he stopped working with Ye. Also, it's not just some wife, it's BEYONCÉ bro. He cheated on Beyoncé, someone 10 times better looking than him. He shouldn't even have her to begin with and he cheated on the goddess queen bey. Horrible. So what Ye put the MAGA hat on during a mental breakdown. He hasn't even tweeted in 2019. We can see where Yandhi era takes us, so far that's away from the politics.

I don't even like Jay Z all that much, musically speaking. You are both making assumptions about me just because I criticised Kanye.

As for the comments about Hov shouldn't even be married to Bey is insulting to both people. It is extra gross that you consider infidelity to be extra bad just because the woman is attractive.

shnurgleton · Mar 12, 2019

Wow this thread is a trash fire

I have a history of liking Kanye and feel he's been off his game since after Yeezus. There are some moments in TLOP and Ye but it's really scattered and the albums don't cohere. Man is talented as all hell and you can hear it in bits in pieces even in actual garbage toss off tracks like Lift Yourself but I feel like he has been losing himself for a long time. Hopefully whatever he comes out with next regains some of the consistency and thematic power his previous stuff had

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

shnurgleton said:
Wow this thread is a trash fire

I have a history of liking Kanye and feel he's been off his game since after Yeezus. There are some moments in TLOP and Ye but it's really scattered and the albums don't cohere. Man is talented as all hell and you can hear it in bits in pieces even in actual garbage toss off tracks like Lift Yourself but I feel like he has been losing himself for a long time. Hopefully whatever he comes out with next regains some of the consistency and thematic power his previous stuff had

So just completely ignore KSG and Daytona

This is why I don't believe the majority of you discuss his music in good faith. Just quick to shit on him for his tweeting

shnurgleton · Mar 12, 2019

coconut milk said:
So just completely ignore KSG and Daytona

This is why I don't believe the majority of you discuss his music in good faith. Just quick to shit on him for his tweeting

Daytona is a Pusha T record that Kanye is on

I haven't listened to KSG yet so yea I'm guilty of missing that. Tend to sort of forget about side projects

And sorry dude like you are the "we forgive you king" guy so it's a bit hard to have a good faith discussion with you either. I try to have a nuanced opinion on Kanye but it's hard to have a conversation with an avowed stan

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

shnurgleton said:
Daytona is a Pusha T record that Kanye is on
I haven't listened to KSG yet so yea I'm guilty of missing that. Tend to sort of forget about side projects

dude....

Kanye EPd, made all the beats and chopped all the samples on Daytona. It's as much his as it is Pushas.

I don't mean to come off as snarky or rude (thread really isn't that serious) but you complain about the thread being a trash fire and do this?

Blader · Mar 12, 2019

bixio said:
I wonder if that had anything to do with the #1 rapper calling out the president for racism on the world stage as the entire earth watched a year earlier.. hmmm.. nah he said something nice about trump so I forgot all of the good he's done is nothing now!

And you say I'm hyperbolic.

That happened 3 years before the '08 election, and Rust Belt whites certainly didn't deliver Ohio and Indiana to Obama because Kanye called Bush a racist. Obama won because of Iraq, the economy, eight years of Bush that the country was ready to move on from, and his own personal charm. Kanye calling Bush a racist had literally nothing to do with anything in that election, and you won't find a single poll from that year to suggest otherwise. I'm not saying you're hyperbolic (I actually didn't say that at all!). What I'm saying is you're flat out wrong on the facts.

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

shnurgleton said:
And sorry dude like you are the "we forgive you king" guy so it's a bit hard to have a good faith discussion with you either. I try to have a nuanced opinion on Kanye but it's hard to have a conversation with an avowed stan

Standard Era cop out whenever a poster feels like they are losing an argument with me on Kanye

shnurgleton · Mar 12, 2019

coconut milk said:
Standard Era cop out whenever a poster feels like they are losing an argument with me on Kanye

What do you want people to say? I don't get it. Kanye is amazing and everything he does is amazing? That's kind of boring. Kanye is actually one of my favorite artists of all time but that doesn't mean he or his work is exempt from criticism

Novel · Mar 12, 2019

shnurgleton said:
And sorry dude like you are the "we forgive you king" guy so it's a bit hard to have a good faith discussion with you either. I try to have a nuanced opinion on Kanye but it's hard to have a conversation with an avowed stan

Oh god. This is the "we forgive you king" guy? That explains how diehard he is and how willing he is to dismiss/defend the guy. Like, dude......he and his work are allowed to be criticized.

Fevaweva · Mar 12, 2019

You can't be a fan of a musician/artist/director/actor/video game company or whatever if you aren't critical of what they produce.

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

shnurgleton said:
What do you want people to say? I don't get it. Kanye is amazing and everything he does is amazing? That's kind of boring. Kanye is actually one of my favorite artists of all time but that doesn't mean he or his work is exempt from criticism

Yo the bar is listening to KSG and knowing he produced all of Daytona

that's it

you completely missed it and I called you out on it. I agreed with an earlier poster saying TLOP lacked cohesiveness. There's plenty of critiques you can have on the guy, I've only seen one or two legit ones itt.

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

Novel said:
Like, dude......he and his work are allowed to be criticized.

Fevaweva said:
You can't be a fan of a musician/artist/director/actor/video game company or whatever if you aren't critical of what they produce.

mhmmmmm

coconut milk said:
Yeah. TLOP has a handful of bombastic, iconic records. Ultralight Beam, FSMH pt1, Waves, NMPILA, 30 Hours, Saint Pablo are the standouts.

It doesn't have the cohesiveness to play from beginning to end. Which is a shame coming from the very tight Yeezus album
.

coconut milk said:
I admit Ye was underwhelming for his standards.

.

There's plenty more criticisms you can have of his music. Not seeing many here tho

Sweeney Swift · Mar 12, 2019

Novel said:
Oh god. This is the "we forgive you king" guy?

It is, and that's the story of why half of every Ye thread for the last year is easier to scroll by to post "I'll never listen to this bitch" because I need an extra button to click to view the other, worse half of the posts

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

Sweeney Swift said:
It is, and that's the story of why half of every Ye thread for the last year is easier to scroll by to post "I'll never listen to this bitch" because I need an extra button to click to view the other, worse half of the posts

Deleted member 30411 · Mar 12, 2019

This thread went places.

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

Without me these threads would literally be filled with the same copy paste posts about how disappointing Kanyes recent music (nonsense, KSG and Daytona) has been and that they won't be listening to this album (aka i never liked him and glad he fucked up)

I'm here to bat these bad faith trolls away. You're welcome Era.

(ignore the maidens part)

Blader · Mar 12, 2019

ViewtifulJC said:
I thought we could all come to agreement that Ye was definitely wack

I can't hate that album because I like Ghost Town too much.

Same reason I've never gotten on board with the TLOP hate. Yeah half those tracks are pretty uhhh, but the other half is goddamn great.

cwmartin · Mar 12, 2019

Is Kanye that guy Taylor Swift made famous?

TheRuralJuror · Mar 12, 2019

coconut milk said:
Standard Era cop out whenever a poster feels like they are losing an argument with me on Kanye

Lol, if you're really the one who made that post originally, then yeah, you're not to be taken seriously in Kanye threads. You played yourself on that one.

shnurgleton · Mar 12, 2019

coconut milk said:
(ignore the maidens part)

Nah I think it makes a lot of sense with the maidens part left in

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

Ramjag said:
Lol, if you're really the one who made that post originally, then yeah, you're not to be taken seriously in Kanye threads. You played yourself on that one.

These threads are never serious. Bunch of poorly thought out """"""criticisms"""""" that fall apart under the tiniest bit of scrutiny.

Posters then proceed to get really rustled because they just got embarrassed by the "we forgive you king" guy. See: shnurgleton

CoolestSpot · Mar 12, 2019

bixio said:
Point me to the Kanye bad music please. I'll wait.

No one insulted anyone. In my experience the people who relentlessly shit on Kanye either A. don't listen to hip hop or B. Let politics decide everything
Neither one of those options gets a me to have much respect for your opinion. If there's a C I'm all ears.

Deleted member 38573 · Mar 12, 2019

CoolestSpot said:

oh get a sense of humour, guy

you lying if you didn't crack a smile at both of those

CoolestSpot · Mar 12, 2019

shnurgleton said:
Daytona is a Pusha T record that Kanye is on

I haven't listened to KSG yet so yea I'm guilty of missing that. Tend to sort of forget about side projects

And sorry dude like you are the "we forgive you king" guy so it's a bit hard to have a good faith discussion with you either. I try to have a nuanced opinion on Kanye but it's hard to have a conversation with an avowed stan

Agree with your last two posts, jumping in thread now. Life of Pablo is where I went "woah, I'm off this train". He's mad talented but reached his greatest heights already it seems. Life of Pablo is mad interesting if you listen to it as a man losing his mind though, especially with the album cover.

Kanye West teases new album

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