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Kashmir border air skirmishes UPDATE 28/02: Pakistan to release captured pilot as peace gesture
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The Indian plane that crashed seems to have done so due to a technical failure. Let's not jump to conclusions here.
Nothing good has come from the politics of that region and those countries. Utter disgraces to so many people.
Reading comments from Indians (in India) on Facebook and Twitter are horrific. For every reasonable person, there's dozens who comment about beating female politicians to death, followed by a score of likes and supporting comments. It's horrible. A large Pakistani response was comparing the airstrikes, joking about the contrast between dead bodies and trees following airstrikes.
I'm horrified at the culture these countries promote, mostly with their young adult men, and how social media has emblazoned so many of them. We're not focusing enough on nationalism affecting India and Pakistan, especially with the shitbag that Modi is.
Reading comments from Indians (in India) on Facebook and Twitter are horrific. For every reasonable person, there's dozens who comment about beating female politicians to death, followed by a score of likes and supporting comments. It's horrible. A large Pakistani response was comparing the airstrikes, joking about the contrast between dead bodies and trees following airstrikes.
I'm horrified at the culture these countries promote, mostly with their young adult men, and how social media has emblazoned so many of them. We're not focusing enough on nationalism affecting India and Pakistan, especially with the shitbag that Modi is.
Well, just read up on the recent issues - not surprised that Pakistan is harboring terrorists (think everyone at this point knows the Pakistan Army gives patronage to a wide variety of terrorist organisations). Unfortunately no one does anything about it because they are an important 'ally' in the fight against Taliban, and have the backing of China (surprise surprise).
What do you think? If shit pops off do you really think I want to be here while everyone slowly starves/freezes to death?
Let's not make light of suicidal ideation, especially in a public space, my fuzzy friendo
I wouldn't rely on Pak twitter tbh, unless they post evidence. They have been known to bs. Just read through news over the last day and you will see them first deny anything happened, then accept something happened somewhere else, then accept something happened where India says the terrorist training camp is. And they still deny it was a terrorist training camp - even though a quick google search brings up multiple reports over the years of a known terrorist training complex being there.
Source?
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Lol, source is Pakistan....no, source is India themselves. Welp.
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If they think they can back out now they are out of their fucking minds.
Eagerly looking forward to tonight's news roundtables
Especially whether the Indian public buys tbe official Indian excuse for technical glitch being the cause of the crash
Especially whether the Indian public buys tbe official Indian excuse for technical glitch being the cause of the crash
No expert here, but that jet looks to have exploded in mid-air rather than crashing down because of an engine issue.
Has any officials actually called it a technical glitch? Or is that just the media? I feel things have gone too far them to use that cover. Especially with a captured pilot.
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This is Indian Media
Hawks on both sides are not going to let things cool down quickly..
Well its a chopper not a plane
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/mil...-says-police-report-1999950?pfrom=home-livetv
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/mil...-says-police-report-1999950?pfrom=home-livetv
Okay, so just to collate what I know so far from official sources:
- Confirmed by both: Pakistani jets entered Indian airspace
- India: An Indian Mi-17 chopper crashed at Budgam
- Pakistan: Two IAF aircraft taken down by Pakistan, one in Indian Kashmir and the other in Pakistani Kashmir, with the pilot of the latter being arrested
- Confirmed by both: Pakistani jets entered Indian airspace
- India: An Indian Mi-17 chopper crashed at Budgam
- Pakistan: Two IAF aircraft taken down by Pakistan, one in Indian Kashmir and the other in Pakistani Kashmir, with the pilot of the latter being arrested
There is a video of a plane burning? NSFW video of a body burnt as well.
Unlike the 'surgical strike' of India, there is evidence immediately available on social media.
People are too early to jump to nuclear war. This happened when trump was elected too. Lol
I am a Pakistani. I live in a district on the south side in Sindh near Indian border. I can assure you that nuclear war won't happen unless shit esclates to uncontrollable level. Before that happens, the world will intervene. No one is going to sit on their ass and let two country nuke each other.
I am a Pakistani. I live in a district on the south side in Sindh near Indian border. I can assure you that nuclear war won't happen unless shit esclates to uncontrollable level. Before that happens, the world will intervene. No one is going to sit on their ass and let two country nuke each other.
I don't actually think this. Both government seem to want off ramps. But hawks keep amping things up
Well I for one am glad that we have a very stable genius to help cool things down if needed
Putting things in quotes doesnt really make the impact that you are trying to make... I am looking at official news channels, not some 'random news trolls' on twitter who are working up their way for nothing
Media on both sides is hyping it up. But nuclear attacks will only happen if there is massive ground incursion in Pakistan I feel which won't be likely but seems India didn't have a clear goal or understanding what will happen next. Both sides are now trying to come up with a strategy and not even thinking when to stop this.
Why should they use nukes? It makes no sense. Even the Nazis didn't use poison gas in WW2 because the Allies told them that they then would use poison gas, too.
It can also get very ugly without nukes.
So a Pakistani F-16 was also shot down? Things are very fluid right now and i am not sure whats happening.
This will take a few hours to get clear.
Meanwhile, Indian Air Force has asked most of the airspace near Pakistani border to be locked off. No commercial flights.
This will take a few hours to get clear.
Meanwhile, Indian Air Force has asked most of the airspace near Pakistani border to be locked off. No commercial flights.
That would be the case if we were dealing with two reasonable actors but this is india and pakistan we are talking about two nations who have been at each others throat since their independence from britian and both currently have warhawks in high positions.
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They really are playing up the accident angle. What happens when Pakistan parades one of the pilots on TV?
Yeah with a pilot jettisoning off at the last moment...and a nuclear war is never going to happen, its too dystopian for humans to actually execute and live through with the consequences...
As several others have mentioned, there won't be a nuclear escalation unless there is a significant ground invasion on either side or destruction of civilian population centers.
Country's main news Network reporting it to be so afaik.
Like I said, that's just one part of the media.
Am not at home so can't see what others are saying about it.
Nor do I.
It's more likely we have a Kargill 2.0 on our hands, if things do escalate.
No.
India moved around 10000 additional troops to the Kashmir border last week.
They were probably preparing for something like this.