Evidence? I must have missed that since there was none just claims from India.Look I can understand IKs statement on needing to respond and show 'capability' but the bolded is a massive overreach given the evidence we have.
Evidence? I must have missed that since there was none just claims from India.Look I can understand IKs statement on needing to respond and show 'capability' but the bolded is a massive overreach given the evidence we have.
I don't sympathize with what the Indian army is doing in Kashmir. for decades You reap what you sow. Its a daily fight for freedom for Kashmiri people. You can't just lump them with other terrorists. so casually. The real terrorist in Kashmir has been the Indian army and still is.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...in-kashmir-is-this-worlds-first-mass-blinding
Show me articles of Pakistan army blinding children just based on religion? A local person who was shot previously by Indian army detonates explosives acquired locally and yet Pakistan is to be blamed.JeM is not a freedom fighting organisation, it's a terrorist organisation.
This particular problem is caused by JeM so you're going on a tangent by talking about freedom fighting and the rest, as for atrocities by Indian Army yes indeed they do it but those issues have existed on both sides and both sides need to fix that shit on their own.
The explosion was caused by a local person who previously was shot by Indian army. So how does Pakistan come into play into all this? Indian army general admits its impossible for such quantity of explosives to come from anywhere else other than locally.Yeah you know the first thing extremists recruiters like the ones in Pakistan and Afghanistan tell to the brainwashed people? That they're "freedom fighters" fighting for a cause, and that murdering innocent people including women and children will send them to heaven. JeM is a known terrorist organisation, not fucking freedom fighters.
The explosion was caused by a local person who previously was shot by Indian army. So how does Pakistan come into play into all this? Indian army general admits its impossible for such quantity of explosives to come from anywhere else other than locally.
This attack was not on civilians but military personnel so your statement is false
Read the post I was replying to, which claimed the Pulwama attack was carried out as a false flag operation by the Indian government.Evidence? I must have missed that since there was none just claims from India.
I don't sympathize with what the Indian army is doing in Kashmir. for decades You reap what you sow. Its a daily fight for freedom for Kashmiri people. You can't just lump them with other terrorists. so casually. The real terrorist in Kashmir has been the Indian army and still is.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...in-kashmir-is-this-worlds-first-mass-blinding
Blame Pakistan for this too I suppose?
Oh, yes, in that case, I don't agree. Modi definitely benefited from it though and used this to fan the flames of war.Read the post I was replying to, which claimed the Pulwama attack was carried out as a false flag operation by the Indian government.
Yes, evidence is that He was Indian, on an Indian car, used Indian ammunition, passed through Indian check post.
Imran Khan is probably the best thing that has happened to Pakistan in a long time and I really hope it de-escalates. Both countries going to war and blowing each other up is exactly what these terrorists want, and they're playing right into their hands.
That was a different government back then.
That's like blaming Obama for the Iraq war. Don't be an idiot.
Modi should address the nation and help de-escalate the situation just like Imran Khan did. His government also needs to answer a lot of questions.
So why don't they do anything about the terrorists in kashmir? New government, same old excuses.That's like blaming Obama for the Iraq war. Don't be an idiot.
That's like blaming Obama for the Iraq war. Don't be an idiot.
Unlikely.Modi should address the nation and help de-escalate the situation just like Imran Khan did. His government also needs to answer a lot of questions.
"I wanted to take the nation into confidence over the developments since yesterday morning," the premier began.
"We offered peace to India after what happened in Pulwama. I understand the pain of the families [who lost family members in Pulwama]. I have visited hospitals and seen the pain of people affected by violence.
"We offered India that we would investigate. We wanted to cooperate and were ready to do so. I feared that India would still take action, and I had therefore warned India against aggression."
"When India stuck yesterday morning, we spoke to our army command and waited to take action till we assessed the damage caused.
"Our action was only intended to convey that if you can come into our country, we can do the same. Two of their MiGs were shot down (in the ensuing action). From here, it is imperative that we use our heads and act with wisdom," he said.
"All wars are miscalculated, and no one knows where they lead to. World War I was supposed to end in weeks, it took six years. Similarly, the war on terrorism was not supposed to last 17 years.
"I ask India: with the weapons you have and the weapons we have, can we really afford a miscalculation? If this escalates, it will no longer be in my control or in Modi's.
"We understand the grief that you have suffered in Pulwama and are ready for a probe and dialogue.
"Let's settle this with talks,"
This is a reasonable response.https://www.dawn.com/news/1466364/p...han-addresses-nation-after-paf-strikes-on-loc
Imran Khan's address to India and pak nation
India summoned and talked to the Deputy High Commissioner of Pakistan.
If the MEA does another statement, let's hope it's actually more detailed and allows questions. Note that Modi hasn't spoken on the situation all day long.
Didn't Obama state that there is no reason to suspect the government knew about Bin Laden's whereabouts?
This is what concerns me. The timing of these incidents isn't great. Modi will need to show some sort of 'win' to the Indian public to back down now. Promises to carry out joint investigations won't be enough. They'll probably need something more concrete, like apprehended suspects which I can't imagine will be easy to produce. Hopefully the Indian media turns it down as well since they're really not helping.Probably figuring out his new election plank, now that any plans to politicise Pulwama have failed, if he decides not to escalate.
The Indian plane that crashed seems to have done so due to a technical failure. Let's not jump to conclusions here.
This is what concerns me. The timing of these incidents isn't great. Modi will need to show some sort of 'win' to the Indian public to back down now. Promises to carry out joint investigations won't be enough. They'll probably need something more concrete, like apprehended suspects which I can't imagine will be easy to produce. Hopefully the Indian media turns it down as well since they're really not helping.
media can claim Brave Indian fighters scrared Pakistani Jets back into their air space. hoorah. now we wilk make them apologize etc etc
That's... not only in bad taste, but also not even funny? Or I don't get it? What is this even
India summoned and talked to the Deputy High Commissioner of Pakistan.
If the MEA does another statement, let's hope it's actually more detailed and allows questions. Note that Modi hasn't spoken on the situation all day long.
haha we hear about this lets talk after every attack happens on Indian soil.
after 26/11
India: So here are the fact, they came from karachi, using this route...trained at X location. Can you help us find the rest of them?
Pakistan: But but wait...you can prove any of that
India: shows collaborative evidence, detailed testimony from captured terrorist
Pakistan: But lets talk please
and this parade has been happening after every terrorist attack. Until Pakistan acknowledges that these training camps exist on their soil, there is no solution.
Its a pollandball comic those things are normally in bad taste and humourless (just like all things that come out of that cesspool 4chan)
Airtraffic continues to not occur over Pakistan and northern India, although India has withdrawn their NOTAMs for now.
This twitter thread is amazing. Showcases 4 examples of high profile journalists and celebrities who were celebrating for war and Indian action and after pakistan responds suddenly saying war is never a solution
Huh - just realised this. Wonder what they got banned for.I find it hilarious that someone asks for proof after the terrorist organization who committed the attack takes responsibility for it. Imagine being a in a courthouse where the murderer confesses for the murder, and then his lawyer shouts "but they have no proof he did it".
Also props to whoever is updating the thread title since OP got banned.
I know - I responded to it. Was just wondering if that was what did them in.OP peddled a conspiracy later in the thread that the Pulwama attack was false flag operation by the Modi government.
i am genuinely confused by some of you. India carried out a strike based on intelligent to destroy training camps. It wasn't on Pak army, or civilians, it was on terrorist. And india media and indians are celebrating. So what exactly is wrong with that again? and how is that promoting war? why are people so butthurt that IAF killed some terrorists?
Even if India and Pakistan go at it, there's no one else to join either side. This is nothing but uninformed people stroking their apocalypse fetishes.
I think both Imran Khan and Modi are smart enough to realize the aftermath and after-effects of going nuclear, and both would not want it. If it was a military dictator running the show, I'd be lot more scared.