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Kathleen Kennedy on releasing Solo 5 months after TLJ: "We made a mistake with that"
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McGregor is like single ray of light in the prequels some fans hang on to.
He was as shit as Obi-Wan as everyone else was in their respective roles.
If they marketed is in enough time and didn't have to reshoot the entire thing it would have worked as it was decent
I didn't like Rogue One at all but at least it had an intriguing set up. Darker dirty dozen take on SWs with a tease of slasher villain Vader, sure I like that.
Solo shouldn't have been about Han Solo, there's no hook in learning about his past and you can't fill the shoes of Harrison Ford. It should have been a more general full blown crime thriller that had Han in it as a surprise like Maul. Heist movie niche kinda got taken already by Rogue One, yes I know it's mostly war movie.
Solo shouldn't have been about Han Solo, there's no hook in learning about his past and you can't fill the shoes of Harrison Ford. It should have been a more general full blown crime thriller that had Han in it as a surprise like Maul. Heist movie niche kinda got taken already by Rogue One, yes I know it's mostly war movie.
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Yeah no shit...don't release dozens of blockbusters a year. The average moviegoer isn't going to the theater every month.
You guys made a lot of mistakes with Solo, beginning with actually making it
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Rogue One took the "Star Wars stories" idea and actually told an interesting story in the SW universe that could only have been told as a side story.
Solo made up a bullshit story based on Han Solo's random lines and mixed it together into an incomprehensible mess that no one asked for.
Timing wasn't why Solo flopped. It was a crappy lead actor, bad script, and clean up director that couldn't fix the broken pieces.
The thing that makes an Obi-wan series or one off viable, other than McGregor being the right age and not being hated by fans for his prequel involvement, is that Vader is still around between 3 and 4. Although we assume they have had no interaction directly there is tonnes of scope to flesh Vader and Obi-wan out in this time period.
I mean JEJ isn't gonna live forever Disney...
They should probably pay for him to say every English word ten times and then make a speech algorithm or something.
I mean JEJ isn't gonna live forever Disney...
They should probably pay for him to say every English word ten times and then make a speech algorithm or something.
The internet loves the prequels now..
McGregor is like single ray of light in the prequels some fans hang on to.
He was as shit as Obi-Wan as everyone else was in their respective roles.
In all fairness nobody asked for Rogue One either and it still made a billion.
It's already time for them to replace him with someone else who can do the voice. He sounded terrible in Rogue One. I would have believed it was someone doing a bad impression, if he hadn't been listed in the credits.
Solo was an uninspired mess. It was totally pointless. And calling "the backlash" against TLJ by anything other than its real name, i.e. "man baby internet temper tantrum" is doing that movement a huge disservice. And I'm not equating not liking it to backlash, I'm talking specifically about "the backlash".
Solo was better than TFA and TLJ.
The one movie a year thing was never going to be sustainable.
Star Wars is not Marvel. It's ultimately one franchise, not a bunch of franchises weaved together.
That said, Solo was honestly just bad. Easily the worst of the Disney SW films.
Star Wars is not Marvel. It's ultimately one franchise, not a bunch of franchises weaved together.
That said, Solo was honestly just bad. Easily the worst of the Disney SW films.
Ooh, this is fun
for a mediocre movie that no one asked for like Solo, yeah, it was a mistake. if the movie had been good it wouldn't have mattered.
The people in this thread acting like it was purely because of the movie's quality smh. It was a mixture of underplayed marketing, well-known problems with production, the disappointment over TLJ and just saturation with Star Wars. You cannot really blame it on just one factor.
No the mistake was making a Han Solo Origins movie. We don't need to know how Han Solo met Lando. We don't need to know how he met Chewbacca. We don't need to know how he obtained the Millennium Falcon. We don't need to know how he became a Smuggler. And we certainly don't need to see someone other than Harrison Ford as the character
It was a big mistake. Happy that she owned up to it.
Solo was alright, but hardly anyone wanted a young Han Solo movie.
I honestly don't think the movie would have done much better if it was pushed back to December.
Solo was alright, but hardly anyone wanted a young Han Solo movie.
I honestly don't think the movie would have done much better if it was pushed back to December.
I saw it and thought it was okay. The first half of the film wasn't very good, but as soon as that annoying robot was out of the picture, things got better. I agree that TLJ soured a lot of people on going to see Solo. I know a few people who avoided it just because of that. Others just weren't interested in a Solo film.
It really should've been an Obi Wan film with a December release. That would have done really well I think
It really should've been an Obi Wan film with a December release. That would have done really well I think
You're right that I didn't ask for it, and I didn't watch it in the theater, but when I finally did see it I ended up pleasantly surprised. IMO the second best of the new movies, after TFA. Not a movie I wanted or needed, but a rather fun one.
*Allegedly* Broken Pieces
All we know is that Lord and Miller deviated from the godawful script.
Yeah. People can rag on the concept all they want, and it was boring and all but the release date hurt it more than anything else. Just plain stupid.
Maybe that's on marvel being built up over the years and not the quality of brilliant marvel movies such as thor: the dark world, iron man 2 and 3, ant-man and the wasp etc.
Rogue One came right after TFA when Star Wars mania was still in full force.
An interesting question is what would've happened had Solo and Rogue One's dates been switched. Would Solo have made a billion and Rogue One bombed?
Star Wars could easily bend genres if they wanted to.
Unless you think "sci-fi" is all one genre which would be a pretty silly thing to think!
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The Marvel universe lends itself to more diverse genres, different casts of characters, etc. The Marvel universe is much bigger than the Star Wars universe.
Genuinely surprised at the hate for Solo. Thought it was the most fun and most "Star Wars" movie since A New Hope. Great stuff.
Also, for a movie "nobody wanted" somehow it made hundreds of millions of dollars. Disney bought up all those tickets?
Also, for a movie "nobody wanted" somehow it made hundreds of millions of dollars. Disney bought up all those tickets?
I mean the star wars universe spans literally thousands of years, it's just all the current canon media is within a ~60 year time period
Yeah, that's the issue here.
The two new trilogies will hopefully change this
I'm a huge Star Wars fan but I never went to see Solo. I bought the UHD and have only watched about 45 minutes of it. I'm not sure why but I really didn't have much interest in it. Probably because I'm not a big fan of prequels in general. I already know where Han ends up. I don't need to read the beginning of the book after reading the ending.
I'll finish watching it at some point but my interest in the movie is just really low.
I'll finish watching it at some point but my interest in the movie is just really low.
Problem wasn't releasing it too soon after TLJ, problem was TLJ being so polarizing and nobody asking for a Solo film. I actually enjoyed both movies for different reasons, but Solo just seemed totally unnecessary and there wasn't any excitement behind it. People were clamoring for an Obi-Wan movie the entire time, them ignoring that for Solo is something I still question since it seems like such and easy cash grab that would actually please most fans.
Yeah, but those thousand years are all basically the same shit. Spaceships, robots, smugglers, bounty hunters, good guys with laser swords, bad guys with laser swords, space politics, etc, etc. And whenever we leave that bounding box, it gets...well...
...stupid.
Solo was a great movie and a lot of fun. I was poo pooing on it before the release because even I didn't want a Han Solo origin movie, but I ended up enjoying it more than The Last Jedi. It's a bummer that the movie didn't do so well but at least Disney learned from their mistake and are course correcting. We don't need a Star Wars film every year and Solo could have easily been a great Disney+ exclusive.
First up, Star Wars is fantasy, not sci-fi. And yes, that's the overarching genre. There could be sub genres beneath that, but it could never be as wide as the MCU.
It would be like saying Guardians of the Galaxy by itself could support multiple films a year.
I actually liked Solo a lot more than TLJ, but because I was disappointed by TLJ and it releasing so close to it, I didn't actually see it in theater.
My main problem with Solo (as stated a million times) is that I just don't really care that much about a Solo origin story. Movie could have easily been about a completely new character and I'd have liked it just as much if not more. Also I hated how the movie looked; you can tell there's great sets, makeup, creature design, etc, but the way it was filled with a grey filter over everything just made it look bleh, no way I'd buy a bluray of it since higher quality bleh is still bleh.
My main problem with Solo (as stated a million times) is that I just don't really care that much about a Solo origin story. Movie could have easily been about a completely new character and I'd have liked it just as much if not more. Also I hated how the movie looked; you can tell there's great sets, makeup, creature design, etc, but the way it was filled with a grey filter over everything just made it look bleh, no way I'd buy a bluray of it since higher quality bleh is still bleh.
It's a pointless distinction. It has space ships and robots. It's sci fi.
The differences between sci-fi and fantasy for the most part are aesthetic. Hard sci-fi is not the only sci-fi that exists.
I liked the movie.
That said, I don't see Han Solo from the OG trilogy and Han Solo from this movie as the same person. My mind have them disconnected, like a parallel universe or just a different person with the same name.
That said, I don't see Han Solo from the OG trilogy and Han Solo from this movie as the same person. My mind have them disconnected, like a parallel universe or just a different person with the same name.