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Kevin Feige Just Did a Reddit AmA
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I thought it was a self worth thing and Steve felt like shit because he was lying to Tony about Bucky.
Yeah, about that.
She'll only be 10 five years from now.
Another time jump? Then Pete ages, too.
Another time jump? Then Pete ages, too.
Whedon implied the same thing years ago, so yea, checks out.
There's more to it than that. Steve is clearly humoring everyone at the table, he isn't thinking about that in the moment. He likely didn't know or even think he could pick it up but the moment he realizes he can he gives up so as not to embarass Thor.
That's how fucking worthy that dude is.
Not sure why this bothers people so much.
Why is it bullshit? Steve was able to move Mjolnir. I don't think there's any depiction of Mjolnir where you can move it partially. You can't be kind of worthy. Either you are or you aren't.
I thought Steve said he didn't know for sure it was Bucky.
He just knew it wasn't an accident.
I've seen that brought up many times. But this character is only 4. It would be 10 years minimum until that happens at the earliest. But more like 12-15, and that's assuming they use the same actress.
I'm clamoring for the X Men right now but we're like so far away from their MCU introduction. The idea of her being Iron Man is even much much further out.
He does ultimately admit that he knew but this is such a flimsy-ass argument for MCU Steve Rogers to not be worthy. The man has been a saint since before he ever enlisted and constantly put others before himself his whole life.
Thor is a self-centered, self-aggrandizing jerk.
It's bullshit because, well, just look at the scene:
He tries really hard to pick it up, it wiggles, and then tries again. Are you telling me just was just pretending to try and pick it up, fucked up by lifting it a little bit, stopped and then pretended to try again?
How would he know he could pick it up in the first place?
He felt it move on a genuine attempt, then pretended to struggle. I thought that was pretty obvious.
Maybe he was only really worthy because he didn't actually try to pick it up.
No. I edited my post to make my point more clear. He did genuinely try to pick it up, then felt it move, and pretended he couldn't do it.
It really bothers me people are confusing two different asians for the same character.
Mandrin, not Shang Chi's father
Plan Chu, Shang Chi's father
Dr.Sun, also chinese and not SHang Chu's father
You can always fudge time, cast an older actress, run time through her, Kang shenanigans, etc... I just think it would be a really cool thing to do thematically to have Tony's daughter take up the mantle when needed just like her Mom did in Endgame. I don't think we should see it for like 5 years though, maybe phase 5. Let Tony's sacrifice rest for a while.
So, he did a bunch of force the first time, he felt it move, and then pretended to try again the second time?
Why then was he not able to easily lift it the first time? There wouldn't not been a struggle > moves > pretends. It would've been tries to pick it up > oh shit I just lifted it > Thor shits his pants.
5 years will be enough time for a jump.
By then I think we'll be ready for Pete to be fully an adult and more experienced and his age won't matter any more.
Spider-Man 3 to adapt the "radioactive sperm poisons and kills MJ" storyline
Dear god a New Universe reference and neither I, Manmademan, or MHWilliams made it. I feel like I should buy a lottery ticket
If you've ever tried to lift something heavy (this item presumably with infinite weight), you aren't going to just use all your force at once, unless you want to blow out your back. He probably rooted himself and prepared to gradually exert himself. He participated as a sign of sportsmanship, thinking he couldn't lift it but wanted to do what everyone else was doing. When he felt it actually immediately move (like it does in the scene), he immediately adjusted and quit exerting actual force. His reaction time is superhuman as well as his strength, meaning his brain could probably respond to that impulse fast enough.
Now, that's just my interpretation of the events. But I don't think it's much of a stretch. He went to lift it, felt it move, stopped trying to lift it before he blew his cover. It's a simple enough explanation if you don't get hung up on the editing and blocking of the scene.
Come on. COME ON.
Come on.
This is you jumping through mental hoops to try and make a retcon make sense.
So this retcone makes sense if I just pretend the scene doesn't play out the way it plays out? The retcon is bullshit because I'm not ignoring the way it actually happened.
You're over complicating this.
Mjolrnir has 2 states:
* you're not worthy to lift it (in which case it feels like the heaviest thing you've ever touched, and you can't move it)
* you are worthy to lift it (in which case it feels like it has no weight)
Someone who is worthy can instantly tell they are able to lift it because it weighs nothing to them. Steve was just pretending the entire time the instant he gripped it, he just screwed up and jostled it.
This is why Thor knew Steve was worthy...there's no inbetween state of Mjolnir. The instant Steve even slightly moved it, he proved he was worthy to everyone there.
Unless you wanna argue that Steve wasn't worthy, legit struggle to move it, then all of a sudden became worthy to slightly jostle the hammer doing....nothing.....during that whole scene?
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To clarify, the reason it feels like it has no weight is because if you are worthy and grip the hammer you are instantly granted the powers of Thor which includes super strength.
People, including myself, have theorized that Cap was worthy in that scene ever since the movie came out. This isn't new. There is no text supporting the idea that you can budge Mjolnir but not actually lift it. Nothing in the movies either. You can move it or you can't. Cap clearly moved it, hence Thor's reaction.
Because you're assuming something about the rules of the setting based on a scene that was intentionally edited to be ambiguous. Note that we don't even see Steve's reaction when Mjolnir budges; it focuses on Thor, who is perplexed that this is happening, and nervous until Cap eventually gives up.
I don't like how the word genius is thrown around too much nowadays but Kevin Feige definitely fits the bill, I honestly have no idea how he strung together 22 decent movies, a few of them pretty damn good, and really nailed the sequence of Avengers, the 3 Captain Americas, Black Panther, Thor Ragnorak, Infinity War, and End Game. I can't think of any other sequence of movies that kept such a high bar of quality and story that kept going and going.
Did anyone ask him if he plans on retiring soon? I always wonder if at that level of success you are sure you can keep doing well or if you think maybe your luck has run out and its time to get out on top.
Did anyone ask him if he plans on retiring soon? I always wonder if at that level of success you are sure you can keep doing well or if you think maybe your luck has run out and its time to get out on top.
Personally I call bullshit on this.
I never got that from that scene in AOU.