Feige is still pretty young at 45. He's happy working with Marvel Studios and this is what he wants to do. I'm sure he'll be around for at least another decade.
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Kevin Feige Just Did a Reddit AmA
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Feige is still pretty young at 45. He's happy working with Marvel Studios and this is what he wants to do. I'm sure he'll be around for at least another decade.
I don't even know how to express how ridiculous the idea that Cap was just miming in that scene is. lol
Marvel can't use that name or Yellow claw for legal and obvious reasons. That is why they started calling him Plan Chu with Agents of Atlas
I recall Markus and McFeely talking about this, that while Civil War was filming, unless they were needed on set for something, they were holed up in an office nearby putting together the stories and early scripts for IW/EG, with a gigantic pile of comics, and a wall covered in post-it notes, of basically anything and everything they might want to see in the film.
How do you explain Cap doing something that has been proven to be impossible in every depiction of Mjolnir? That seems more ridiculous to me.
Reiterating my above post here but:
* you're either worthy or you're not. There is no partial worthy, you either can move the hammer or you can't.
* Because of the above, need to point out Steve does nothing during that scene that would have taken him from unworthy to worthy.
* the instant you grip Mjolnir if you're worthy you are instantly granted the powers of Thor (which includes super strength) which makes the hammer not weigh anything compared to when you're unworthy where it feels like it weighs an unmeasurable amount and can't be moved at all.
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Thor explicitly says he knew Steve was worthy.
It 100% unequivocally makes no sense that Steve could move the hammer AT ALL unless he was worthy during that scene, and it 100% unequivocally makes no sense that he became worthy part way in considering he did nothing during the scene except try to lift the hammer. The instant you grip the hammer, you know, as you either become Thor and the hammer weighs nothing to you, or you are unworthy and it feels like a heavy burden in your hands.
This is how the hammer has always been depicted, both in the comics and in the movies....Thor himself in Thor 1 when he was unworthy could not make the hammer budge.
By the fact that it's the MCU and things aren't always the same.
Cap trying to pick it up, feeling that it was moving, mining picking it up while still holding the same pose, stopping and then mimming again is so incredibly convoluted. Joss Whedon would be an insane man if this is what he intended.
Dude, I'm Asian. Look at my name. I started using it because A) I do eat a lot of rice and B) it's a common Asian stereotype that I have no problem with.
Anyways, I should clarify why I said that. The rumor that I read about Mandarin being Shang Chi's antagonist also included him being Shang Chi's father. I know he's not Shang Chi's father, but the rumor says that they'd do that for his movie. So that's why I threw in that comment about hoping he gets powers because that would be a big mismatch.
But he's not just miming. A literally immovable object visibly indisputably moves.
Odin in Thor 1: Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.
Thor in Endgame: I knew it!
The rules of the MCU are not supporting the argument either. It would be a literal deus ex machina, from the gods themselves, if Steve could kinda budge it, but not lift it.
The Academy might scorned at it but i think he's due for an award of some kind......regardless of whether you like his movies, what he did as a producer of stringing a bunch of movies to create a cinematic universe of epic proportion is unprecedented.
Before the MCU, all other crossovers (the universal monsters series) and 'semi-universe' (Godzilla, James Bond) were either 'bite size' (consists of no more than 5 movies) or tends to reboot like very 4 movies (again, godzilla, james bond).
The MCU has 20+ movies crossover each other for the past 10 years!
I rather they ahve Shang Chi's brother The Midnight Son
They call him Midnight cause he is black
I forget what it's called, but there's a special kind of award for producers outside of the Oscars. He's probably going to get that.
Well, he must be since it is in fact what he intended since I believe he's said as much after AoU.
The movies go out of their way to establish the same exact rules though, like Thor 1 single handedly does this.
Steve is a goody goody two shoes and doesn't want to upset Thor or hurt his feelings. It was a party, and the whole point of the game was Thor was kinda showing off. Steve would definitely play along with that for team morale. They're having a fun time.
In one storyline Carol is kidnapped, took to another dimension, brainwashed and impregnated while raped. She then returns to Earth and gives birth to a rapidly aging baby who grows to become the guy who raped her. They continued in a relationship and the Avengers are all OK with this.
This other one is good too:
The Russos must REALLY have impressed Feige with their passion to give them Winter Soldier.
The Russos must REALLY have impressed Feige with their passion to give them Winter Soldier.
It probably wasn't Whedon's intention when he shot the scene to explicitly set that up, but having just rewatched it - its actually pretty easy to interpret it as him faking after he gets it to budge initially so it kinda retroactively works.
Look at Thor's face expression after the little movement of the hammer.
It was the movie's intention at all.
Wow, you mean the director intended to portray the scene ambiguously? But that's insane!
Wat.
Yes he filmed and set up that entire scene and didn't notice the hammer physically move in just that shot
Thor's face? That's Hemsworth showing the camera guy they fucked up the shot.
If you want to read more, please check out this piece written by Carol A. Strickland:
http://carolastrickland.com/comics/msmarvel/index.html
It was done by the time Avengers #200 got printed.
I recall thinking it was an "almost worthy" thing the time. I thought Mjolnir worked like a dimmable light bulb. Now I see Mjolnir is a regular light bulb AND I'M THE REAL DIM BULB.
Wat.
Yes he filmed and set up that entire scene and didn't notice the hammer physically move in just that shot
You almost got me
Marvel also subsituted J'Son with Ego the Living Planet as Star Lord's father. They're going to take their liberties, and the rumor going around was that this was how they were going to use The Mandarin.It really bothers me people are confusing two different asians for the same character.
Mandrin, not Shang Chi's father
Plan Chu, Shang Chi's father
Dr.Sun, also chinese and not SHang Chu's father
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
Comics have some HARDCORE issues with women.
But that plays into his point... wouldn't work because there isn't resonant characters.
His original point is that filmmaking and CGI is so advanced. There isn't anything they can't bring to the screen. The question is whether they should!
And the issue with that story isn't the lack of resonant characters but that it's just disturbing and gross.
I'm surprised people didn't think Steve was able to move Mjolnir in Age of Ultron, I thought the intention was pretty clear that he could move it but didn't to steal Thor's thunder.
Godzilla actually has multiple longer timelines, including a 16 film one that has it's own Avengers equivalent called Destroy All Monsters which has nearly ever monster that appeared in the films before it.
I don't believe a re-occuring human character really started showing up until the 90s Heisei series though, in the original Showa series the state of the monsters was more of the re-occuring element (Rodan being in a volcano, monsters being on monster island, etc).
Godzilla actually has multiple longer timelines, including a 16 film one that has it's own Avengers equivalent called Destroy All Monsters which has nearly ever monster that appeared in the films before it.
I don't believe a re-occuring human character really started showing up until the 90s Heisei series though, in the original Showa series the state of the monsters was more of the re-occuring element (Rodan being in a volcano, monsters being on monster island, etc).
What I meant was he may not have intended for the payoff of Cap picking up the hammer later on in the MCU - but as has been pointed out, it was.
I rather they ahve Shang Chi's brother The Midnight Son
They call him Midnight cause he is black
They should call him Tiny Legs because he has tiny legs.
In a slightly happier ending to that whole story, the next time Carol ran into The Avengers (which was after she'd joined up with the X-Men), she read them the riot act for letting that happen (and it was basically Claremont calling out the Avengers #200 editors/writers for the story).
https://www.cbr.com/meta-messages-chris-claremont-sticks-up-for-ms-marvel/
Exactly. Every actor in this scene is pretending to struggle to lift something.
