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Kevin Feige: "You'll probably need a Disney+ subscription to understand everything in future Marvel movies"

CHC

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Oct 27, 2017
3,098
As with a lot of media today, it's not that I won't spend the money, it's that I don't have the time.
 

Prine

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Oct 25, 2017
6,373
It's ok Feige, these stories are not captivating or interesting enough, I just watch the event movies for the spectacle and forget them on the way out.
 

Felt

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
2,981
Hmm not a fan when films don’t stand on their own and require external content to be considered good...
 

Matt

The Terror that Flaps in the Night
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Oct 24, 2017
3,008
Somehow I think the people who are OK not watching the D+ shows are going to be OK not picking up on whatever callbacks the movies include.
 

4 Get!

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Apr 8, 2019
36
Wait, why are some here acting surprised? I thought we knew this would be the case from the minute they announced those TV shows for movie characters.
 

Calvarok

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Oct 26, 2017
2,416
fuck directly off.

give me a completely self contained black panther 2 while i ignore Literally everything else you put out.
 

Jam

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Oct 25, 2017
4,704
I do think this early interconnectedness will be over stated by Feige and co to be a selling point of D+.

You’ll be okay going into the films with an auxiliary understanding of the show. “Oh Falcon has a bit of experience as Captain and has bonded with Bucky despite their prior misgivings.” Or “Wanda dealt with some personal trauma relating to Vision and has really come into her own”. And even then I’m sure the films will supply the context on their own.

I seriously doubt, especially this first wave of shows, will be essential threadlines for the films.

It’s not as if you’re going to get something like oh I don’t know, that mutants will be introduced in Hawkeye and then the X-Men film drops picking up on an established team and development from the show.

I could be proven wrong but I doubt it. This shows will be stepping stones and cursory content rather than massively important pieces of continuity - if only this initial wave.
 

Soupman Prime

The Fallen
Nov 8, 2017
3,100
Boston, MA
Think we are at the point where anything Marvel causes people to just lose their minds. Just seems disingenuous because there are plenty of people who saw IW or Endgame who don’t care about BP, Ant Man or Captain Marvel and I’m sure they didn’t have a problem at all. I don’t think anyone is gonna be completely lost at all.

Clearly anyone who brings up Art, Cinema, or Martin had no interest to watch these show. If you’re a big fan you’ll catch the series like I will if not then just watch the movies, some people only watch Avengers films 🤷🏾‍♂️
 

NightShift

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Oct 25, 2017
2,940
'straya
For some reason I though they weren't going to attempt another Infinity War/Endgame again. This is going to be really annoying. Especially when we don't know if these TV shows are even going to be good. They're can't apply the same safe formula to episodes.
 

Canucked

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Oct 25, 2017
3,172
Man selling a thing hypes that thing. News at 11

I promise you can watch Black Panther two and understand completely without watching wandavision.

calm down
 

Window

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Oct 27, 2017
5,843
I’m good thanks. I saw Infinity War and End Game without watching every single MCU film prior to them and I was fine. This was always the worst thing about phase 1 films, they often felt like advertisements for the big team up film. They got better at it in later films. Viewers won’t get every single reference or character arc but that’s okay for me. I’m there for the spectacle and the stories of the characters I do care about. The rest are filler most of the time.
 

xxracerxx

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
17,769
I’m good thanks. I saw Infinity War and End Game without watching every single MCU film prior to them and I was fine. This was always the worst thing about phase 1 films, they often felt like advertisements for the big team up film. They got better at it in later films. Viewers won’t get every single reference or character arc but that’s okay for me. I’m there for the spectacle and the stories of the characters I do care about. The rest are filler most of the time.
And that’s the exact same thing that the shows are. I am amazed that people are playing so dumb with what he is saying.
 

Antoo

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May 1, 2019
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What do you want the guy to say? They will all be inconsequential and meaningless? That they won’t further develop the characters? If that was the case you complainers will just be laughing at the fact the shows lacking any form of depth.
 

Biske

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Nov 11, 2017
2,882
It's not as if the movies are particularly deep or hard to understand. You'll be fine, worst case scenario they might accidentally create a bit of mystery and accidentally make the movies more interesting.
 

xxracerxx

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Oct 25, 2017
17,769
I know. I’m just saying that’s okay for me. I can live without knowing every single thing in the team up movies - even if ultimately it’s to their own detriment.
Oh I know, I am just saying people are acting like this is some big different thing to what they have already been doing. Marvel threads make people go bonkers.
 

The Kree

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Oct 25, 2017
9,163
The funny shit is when these shows pop off and start dominating the news, you're all gonna watch them anyway because you won't wanna be left out of the conversation.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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The funny shit is when these shows pop off and start dominating the news, you're all gonna watch them anyway because you won't wanna be left out of the conversation.
What conversation is there to be had about Marvel stuff? Every IRL convo I have had always is this:

Person 1: Did you see Endgame?
Me: Yeah, it was alright.
Person 1: Yeah.

I have never ever ever had or even heard long convos or about the MCU. I even go to boardgame bars and shit and it's actually not that common. For all the money they make, they don't inspire much conversation outside of like nerd places.
 

mbpm

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Oct 25, 2017
2,464
Man if they're going to do it this comic-style I hope they have good separate arcs you can hop into like the comics and hope out of.
 

higemaru

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Nov 30, 2017
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lol watch ten hours of content to make sure you understand a two second reference and/or a plot point they’ll explain regardless in Dr. Strange 2.

okay Feige
 

The Kree

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Oct 25, 2017
9,163
What conversation is there to be had about Marvel stuff? Every IRL convo I have had always is this:

Person 1: Did you see Endgame?
Me: Yeah, it was alright.
Person 1: Yeah.

I have never ever ever had or even heard long convos or about the MCU. I even go to boardgame bars and shit and it's actually not that common. For all the money they make, they don't inspire much conversation outside of like nerd places.
What does your circle of friends being boring have to do with what I said?
 
Oct 26, 2017
10,542
What does your circle of friends being boring have to do with what I said?
We talk about other things. It doesn't seem valuable to discuss whatever the MCU is. Like, what is there to actually discuss about the MCU? Shit gets blown up, folks get power ups, maybe a twist reveal or whatever. It's like talking about the Transformers movies in depth with people. There's nothing there to sustain a conversation outside of "I don't like MCU" versus "I like MCU" arguments. Like, even on Era, what drives the MCU threads is the divide between MCU lovers and haters. The average person doesn't seem to really care which is why the MCU community thread is big but outside of that, it is sustained by the same argument.
 

Bio

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
2,314
Denver, Colorado
How are people still saying stuff like this? You really think, truly, that Marvel are going to make the movies inaccessible to the viewer unless they have watched the shows? Really?
Did Feige stutter or something? I'm not sure why you're acting so incredulous at me, or anyone, taking the man at his word. Do you know something about these shows and movies that the man who oversees them all does not?
 

xxracerxx

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
17,769
Did Feige stutter or something? I'm not sure why you're acting so incredulous at me, or anyone, taking the man at his word. Do you know something about these shows and movies that the man who oversees them all does not?
Because he said “understand everything” not understand the basics. For some reason people are taking his words and making it seem like they will be completely clueless when they walk into the next MCU film. Come on, that is absurd.
 

Pillowtalk

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Oct 10, 2018
318
pretty sure they won't make tv shows and movies as hard to follow as their comics. And as someone reading through the marvel unlimited backlogs, it's not even that bad.