Killing Miiverse seems counterintuitive when the Switch has a dedicated screenshot

[malyse]

Dedicated screenshot button. Character limit.

I get that they're trying to get that general wide social media attention, but I always thought that miiverse was a feather in Nintendo's cap. It was like a less toxic version of gamefaqs boards, with dedicated sub forums for each game available for the platform. It's not like we couldn't have the Facebook and Twitter integration alongside of Miiverse.

On a side note, I dislike that the screenshots and videos you post doesn't automatically have the game name as a hashtag. And that you can't opt in to auto upload screens when you take them (with game name hashtags).

 

[Platy]

If you post on miiverse only people who already own nintendo products will see.

If you post outside of it you are doing free advertising

 

[Deleted member 4021]

Because it cost money and already-existing social media has a far larger reach.

 

[WhoaIsThatMars]

who says they aren't going to launch something similar on Switch?

 

[The Almighty Tria]

I loved Miiverse. Sure, it was redundant, but it was so nice and carefree, and it was fun using it for various things. I used it as a way to create my own achievements.

 

[memoryman3]

If you post on miiverse only people who already own nintendo products will see.

If you post outside of it you are doing free advertising

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Problem is that Twitter and co. aren't exactly kid friendly. And your content is far more likely to be drowned out by the more popular meme and news accounts.

Plus, there's no reason that Miiverse and SNS sharing could be in tandem. Come on Nintendo! We are going to pay for online!

 

[SinCityAssassin]

Problem is that Twitter and co. aren't exactly kid friendly. And your content is far more likely to be drowned out by the more popular meme and news accounts.

Plus, there's no reason that Miiverse and SNS sharing could be in tandem. Come on Nintendo! We are going to pay for online!

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I'm pretty sure the current trend for the switch and for the bigger release games like zelda and Mario Odyssey really benefit from he twitter sharing function than they would from Miiverse.

 

[Ushojax]

Miiverse was a nice idea but it only existed because Nintendo were completely oblivious regarding social media. There is no longer a reason for it to exist.

 

[Deleted member 4208]

who says they aren't going to launch something similar on Switch?

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Nintendo stated on the Miiverse discontinuation FAQ that they have no such plans.

Will there be a similar service to replace Miiverse on Nintendo Switch?

• Currently Nintendo has no plans to implement any services to replace Miiverse, but the Nintendo Switch system includes features for connecting with Facebook and other social networking services.

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[i-Jest]

who says they aren't going to launch something similar on Switch?

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I'd be all for this, as long as it's in the works. I don't see why we can't have Miiverse, or a Miiverse like app, exist side by side with more well known social media.

I'm under the impression it didn't cost much for Nintendo to maintain the Miiverse servers, but I could be wrong. If that's the case then it would be nice to see its return. If someone more knowledgeable on the subject cares to comment, please do.

 

[zroid]

It also seems counter intuitive when it's the only way to get screenshots of most 3DS games! Goddammit!

 

[Neiteio]

They want you to use the "post to social media" function so that you're advertising to people who might not have a Switch yet, vs. Miiverse where it's an echo chamber of people who already own a Switch

 

[cpcz]

The only thing I feel lacking from twitter & fb is ability to hide post as spoiler ._.)

 

[-shadow-]

Still really disappointed that they're killing Miiverse in just days. I don't get it, and neither the argument of 'Free advertisement' to kill it. Yeah great for Twitter and Facebook, but no way in hell am I going to be discussing the games with others on those platforms like I did on Miiverse. That was the magic of it. "Why can't Metroid crawl?" was hilarious, would never have happened without Miiverse and the guy probably wouldn't have beaten the game if it wasn't for Miiverse. Well that and freaking spoilers freakin everywhere!

I genuinely think that if Iwata would've still been around that we've would've still had it, it really felt like an idea he completely stood behind. But, what you gonna do?

What's the progress on the archival anyway?

 

[Fliesen]

Nintendo's twitter integration (apart from maybe the sub-par upload quality) is absolutely amazing. - i find it much less cumbersome, and way snappier than the PS4 upload feature, imho.

I love that they're embracing the "regular people" social networks instead of the - albeit charming, yet extremely locked down Miiverse

 

[WhoaIsThatMars]

Nintendo stated on the Miiverse discontinuation FAQ that they have no such plans.

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I mean, why would they say anything different if it wasn't ready to launch?

 

[Axisofweevils]

Agreed. I had to make a secondary twitter account because I didn't want to spam my followers with endless images.

 

[malyse]

The only thing I feel lacking from twitter & fb is ability to hide post as spoiler ._.)

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It would be cool if #spoiler was something Twitter integrated into the platform. Like, you add "#spoiler" to your tweet and it blacks out everything except the other hashtags so you know what's being spoiled.

Agreed. I had to make a secondary twitter account because I didn't want to spam my followers with endless images.

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I linked in my Miiverse twitter.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

They probably also want to leave the Wii/Mii branding behind.

 

[Deleted member 1273]

I think Nintendo didnt want to give a platform to haters or such? I remember seeing some very questionable stuff here and there.

 

[memoryman3]

I think Nintendo didnt want to give a platform to haters or such? I remember seeing some very questionable stuff here and there.

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That would have been easily fixed by Nintendo tightening up their moderation, especially on drawings. The Splatoon 2 algorithm is SO much better than the Smash Bros algorithm.

 

[malyse]

I think Nintendo didnt want to give a platform to haters or such? I remember seeing some very questionable stuff here and there.

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That would have been easily fixed by Nintendo tightening up their moderation, especially on drawings. The Splatoon 2 algorithm is SO much better than the Smash Bros algorithm.

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The moderation on text was pretty crazy. I got hit with a quickly overturned limited access strike for calling a character in a screenshot I uploaded a jerk.

 

[Quacktion]

Miiverse was one of Nintendo's best ideas ever. Shutting it down is a mistake in general, it should have been expanded instead with the new video capture feature.

 

[Bizu]

Dont think so. Miiverse was a private social network, just a bit of hard users, and the content was boring.

Killing it, perhaps is the step forward to more connectios with other social media, and a solid merchandising.

Switch needs to take his identity clearly, and a social that is exclusevely for Nintendo users is a mistake.

 

[Firefox]

Miiverse and the eShop were such a joy to browse through. The Switch is lifeless in comparison.

You'd rather share videos and screenshots to your friends list than Facebook/ Twitter. Not everyone wants to see your gaming content.


If the Switch implements something like Microsoft has done with their activity feed and communities, I think that would be a happy medium.

 

[Bizu]

Miiverse was one of Nintendo's best ideas ever. Shutting it down is a mistake in general, it should have been expanded instead with the new video capture feature.

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why is the best idea ever?

 

[Phife Dawg]

I liked Miiverse but from a business standpoint it never made sense. Why have all the costs and risks associated with running a social media hub that has a miniscule reach. It's gone and it ain't coming back.

 

[Sander VF]

All those video captures of people doing cool stuff in BotW or Odyssey on Twitter advertise the system and it's games.

Miiverse advertises to the converted.

 

[ImperatorPat]

Miiverse was cool, I'll never post screenshots or videos to my followers on twitter or Facebook, they simply aren't interested in such things. I edited the Nintendo Facebook app to post "only to me" and then I download and delete the picture from my feed after uploading the few times I've used it.

Reminds me of when Xbox had the feature to auto post your Achievements to Facebook as if your Facebook friends would actually appreciate you spamming them with such things. At least in miiverse everyone owned a system and might actually be interested.

Hopefully Nintendo adds a web browser back to the switch with image upload, or adds a network file sharing feature like the 3DS had.

 

[Mastermind85]

I liked it because I don't necessarily want all my gaming related posts up on real social media. Also the spoiler button - I have to avoid Twitter right now due to Odyssey spoilers.

I see why they axed Miiverse, but I'm sad it's gone and won't be sharing much at all without a dedicated service.

 

[Mark H]

Posting on Miiverse means that it's only getting exposed to people who are already interested.
Twitter allows anyone to see it which is far better for marketing, and if you want dedicated community to discuss it, well you've got ResetEra, 4chan, GameFAQ, 2ch, and million other gaming forums out there.
It makes very little sense for Nintendo to spend their money to host and moderate its own social media.

 

[QuixoticNeutral]

Obviously there is some staffing overhead involved in keeping the place moderated, and the way Miiverse was implemented wouldn't quite click with images stored in a standard format on a standard medium as they are now (excellent all around, but missing the game/stage-specific metadata that made Miiverse sing; also, you'd have to curtail just uploading anything from your SD card). But I continue to believe shuttering Miiverse is a bad decision.

Yes, the case for viral marketing is fairly clear, but I expressly keep my video game content off social media and can't be bothered to run alt accounts (especially if the social media link on the Switch eventually doubles as a friend-finding tool). The most appropriate audience for my Nintendo content is other Nintendo players, and the place where I'm most interested in browsing Nintendo content is on a Nintendo-specific service. That would actually be a match of content creators and audiences in both directions. That I can't even doodle in the Splatoon plaza anymore without polluting a social feed is not my idea of fun. The least they could do is support social media platforms like Tumblr that are actually image-oriented, which Facebook isn't anymore.

That said, the new video upload feature has been getting some interesting mileage on Twitter (BotW stunt clips, mostly); it's working out far better than the old MK8 YouTube upload. And every offline aspect of the screenshot album is incredible. I'm willing to lose Miiverse for one-click screenshots that don't interrupt play and which I can dump on my computer en masse. I've taken thousands of screenshots on my Switch, and the way the feature was directly woven into the fabric of Odyssey has already proven to be a significant boon to the game experience. I just miss the way Miiverse doubled as an achievement system as well as a social feature that specifically reached people for whom the content is relevant—the Wind Waker bottles, the Mario Maker comments.

This is also a good reminder to save anything on Miiverse that won't be included in the backup before the service goes down this coming week (comments from other users, for one, which was relevant to my Mario Maker experience).

 

[The Libertine]

I really do miss Miiverse on the Switch. As others have already said, I also don't want to post gaming related screenshots etc. to other social media channels.
I also liked to use it as a little break from playing a game, I find myself hitting the home button on the Switch and having nothing to look at.

 

[Kneefoil]

Maybe counter-intuitive from users' perspective, but probably not business-wise.

I'll miss it. Not just because posting there, and reading other people's posts has been fun, which it has, but also for how they were implemented in to some games, like the Tingle Bottles in The Wind Waker HD. I've even been using it a lot more often lately after I got Animal Crossing: New Leaf in September: I like recording the development of my town, and some random events with screenshots and small blurbs. Doubtful that I keep doing that anywhere else after the shutdown.

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[Zombine]

In 2017, there are currently 25.1 active Twitter users in Japan, 69 million in the US, and about 20 million in the UK. While growth has stalled out on the platform, at the peak of MiiVerse's life there were about 3.6 million people browsing or using the service, and currently there are 4.7 million Nintendo Switches sold world wide.

This data shows that Nintendo would see greater success implementing Twitter sharing for photos and hashtag creation, and should work with Twitter to get the app directly on the console through a partnership. Nintendo would agree to buy some tweets, but ultimately the 4.7+ million users would provide free Marketing with their pictures using the service. What Twitter would charge would be a pittance compared to hiring people to create the app and provide server maintenance & hosting. Using twitter they would reach millions of existing and potential future Switch owners, instead of marketing to people that already own the product.

That's why you haven't seen it yet, and probably won't.

 

[memoryman3]

I liked Miiverse but from a business standpoint it never made sense. Why have all the costs and risks associated with running a social media hub that has a miniscule reach. It's gone and it ain't coming back.

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I would say that...but they are charging for online. Why not add Miiverse as an incentive?

 

[Firefox]

In 2017, there are currently 25.1 active Twitter users in Japan, 69 million in the US, and about 20 million in the UK. While growth has stalled out on the platform, at the peak of MiiVerse's life there were about 3.6 million people browsing or using the service, and currently there are 4.7 million Nintendo Switches sold world wide.

This data shows that Nintendo would see greater success implementing Twitter sharing for photos and hashtag creation, and should work with Twitter to get the app directly on the console through a partnership. Nintendo would agree to buy some tweets, but ultimately the 4.7+ million users would provide free Marketing with their pictures using the service. What Twitter would charge would be a pittance compared to hiring people to create the app and provide server maintenance & hosting. Using twitter they would reach millions of existing and potential future Switch owners, instead of marketing to people that already own the product.

That's why you haven't seen it yet, and probably won't.

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Microsoft offers sharing to Twitter / Facebook but also to your own feed / communities. This requires Microsoft to host the videos / screenshots. The added advantage to this approach are the third party websites which have all your publicly available videos / screens. (Ie. XboxDVR) I don't see how social media affects friend/activity feeds within the console. You can always have both as an option.

The only reason would be cost saving measures really.

 

[Fosko]

Miiverse was a ghetto full of weird kids, it did nothing for the console.

 

[Deleted member 9971]

If you post on miiverse only people who already own nintendo products will see.

If you post outside of it you are doing free advertising

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Pretty much this, Twitter and Facebook are multiple times bigger so it's free advertisement for em if you post your screens on those platforms.

Sad but ohwell.... What do you do about it...
Loved Miiverse:/ atleast people are archiving the whole thing before it gets shut down.

 

[Phife Dawg]

I would say that...but they are charging for online. Why not add Miiverse as an incentive?

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They have nothing to gain out of it really. No one buys a Switch or subscribes to their online services because of Miiverse.

 

[Quacktion]

why is the best idea ever?

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Made people socialise, share experiences and create art, and all of that was integrated into the system and games themselves (like Splatoon or Wind Waker HD or Mario Maker) in a way Twitter or any other social platform will never be able to be integrated realistically.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

To the people saying "why post on echo chamber Miiverse vs Twitter"

Imagine if you could do both, and simultaneously reach out to both prospective customers and also people already invested in your ecosystem

:o

 

[Bizu]

Made people socialise, share experiences and create art, and all of that was integrated into the system and games themselves (like Splatoon or Wind Waker HD or Mario Maker) in a way Twitter or any other social platform will never be able to be integrated realistically.

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Any social network makes it, and have a circle of people so much bigger than miiverse.
And this is.integrated to the people.who own a Nintendo system. Which create a bunch of people who have the same ideia, almost the same experiences. Share to people who doesnt know how the game works, how wonderful can be to.encourage to buy the system and the games.
Locked groups is doomed to be stagnant forever, and Nintendo looks like is learning from their own problems.

 

[Bizu]

Made people socialise, share experiences and create art, and all of that was integrated into the system and games themselves (like Splatoon or Wind Waker HD or Mario Maker) in a way Twitter or any other social platform will never be able to be integrated realistically.

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Any social network makes it, and have a circle of people so much bigger than miiverse.
And this is.integrated to the people.who own a Nintendo system. Which create a bunch of people who have the same ideia, almost the same experiences. Share to people who doesnt know how the game works, how wonderful can be to.encourage to buy the system and the games.
Locked groups is doomed to be stagnant forever, and Nintendo looks like is learning from their own problems.

 

[Undeniablybiased]

Miiverse was super fun (mainly for the drawings), but Twitter is just better for everyone. 30 seconds of glorious Odyssey and BOTW antics flooding twitter is only gonna make things better.

 

[Ogodei]

Because it cost money and already-existing social media has a far larger reach.

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They just need to work with facebook and twitter to get integrations up where you can post drawings. You can already modify the pics you submit to social media.

 

[RionaaM]

I have a ton of Zelda and Mario screenshots (and now videos). I want to upload them, but don't want to spam my Twitter feed with them. Miiverse's death totally sucks.

 

[Terraforce]

A lot of people seem to be down on Miiverse, but I liked how it served as a forum of sorts specifically for Nintendo fans. Like Memoryman stated, Twitter is a variable that you cannot as easily account for. You could post and everyone can see it, or no one can see it. This mostly depends on how much you use Twitter, and if you're like myself and don't use social media all that much, no one is going to see your contribution. At least on Miiverse generally a few people would see your post (if not dozens more).

Yeah using the social media platform makes a lot of sense from a lot of points, but I don't see why Miiverse cannot co-exist with it. Nintendo doesn't even offer groups or easy way to chat with friends or people that play similar games as you as PS4 and Xbox do, so it would be something extra to justify their paid service.

 

[Deleted member 6730]

No it isn't when the other two are doing the exact same thing.

 

[Terraforce]

No it isn't when the other two are doing the exact same thing.

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They aren't though