Kinda Funny |OT| A Baker's Dozen!

Plinkerton · Dec 9, 2019

Sorry but I just don't get the argument; they didn't play all the best games of the year so their opinion on GOTY is invalid? With how much comes out these days, I think you'd struggle to find anyone who's played everything so it seems unfair to criticise KF specifically for that.

For 2017 you've picked an arbitrary list of games which you know they didn't play, but ignored stuff which they clearly did play like BOTW, Horizon, Odyssey, RE7, Hellblade, Cuphead, which are arguably all better games than those you've listed.

I dunno it just seems unfair to criticise anyone these days for not playing everything in any given year.

Lashley · Dec 9, 2019

GOTY Lists are simply opinions, why can't folk ever grasp that?

lemonade · Dec 9, 2019

It's fine when they are just opinions. Makes KF's shows boring to watch but they don't have any other impacts.

It's problematic when they get to decide on awards. Which might be a bigger problem for Game Awards. For example, if each outlet is represented as one vote only, then Gamespot's vote has the same weight as KF's

However, I know the people at Gamespot played way more games than the handful of mainstream hype games KF played.

Going back to 2017, I would value someone's opinion and vote more at game awards if they played Horizon, Zelda, P5, Nier, Y0 than someone at KF who only played Horizon and Zelda. (Again the mainstream hype games)

EDIT: imo, P5, Y0 and Nier were all better than Zelda and Horizon. However, I would respect KF's opinions if they actually played these games and still chose Zelda or Horizon. But I just can't put credit to these game awards choices when I know they didn't play them at all.

Plinkerton · Dec 9, 2019

I'm willing to bet that most people voting on TGA didn't play every game that could realistically have been considered for GOTY, regardless of what outlet they're from. That's just one of the realities of the modern industry; there's too much to play everything (or even everything that's good enough for GOTY).

Again it seems unfair to single KF out just because the types of games they play don't line up with what you personally consider to be GOTY.

lemonade · Dec 9, 2019

Just comparing KF to their peers, Gamespot, Easy Allies, GB etc. KF play such a limited selection of games each year, yet their votes are weighted the same and affects the results of Game Awards.

GB gave pubg GOTY which baffles me, but at least I knew they played games like Nier, P5, Y0. So I can respect their decision. Can't say the same about KF.

Plinkerton · Dec 9, 2019

lemonade said:
Just comparing KF to their peers, Gamespot, Easy Allies, GB etc. KF play such a limited selection of games each year, yet their votes are weighted the same and affects the results of Game Awards.

Do we know that for a fact? Like has Geoff ever confirmed there's no weighting system? Not doubting you just never seen him talk about it.

lemonade · Dec 9, 2019

Plinkerton said:
Do we know that for a fact? Like has Geoff ever confirmed there's no weighting system? Not doubting you just never seen him talk about it.

I have no idea. The fact that in the podcast they were talking about how each outlet is treated as one is more worrying.

Sauce Marlow · Dec 9, 2019

Love to listen to the Gamescast where discussion about actual video games they're playing is relegated to an 8-minute segment, while almost two hours is dedicated to reading out Game Award nominations.

icyflamez96 · Dec 9, 2019

The one topic episodes are usually better in general imo.

Deleted member 437 · Dec 9, 2019

Lashley said:
GOTY Lists are simply opinions, why can't folk ever grasp that?

I agree.

Giantbombs are usually just people relenting and giving in to the fact that their game won't win.

Its just one big compromise.

Its fun watching them break every game down, but who wins GOTY is completely useless information for me. Just give me an individuals top 10.

ghornett · Dec 9, 2019

Sauce Marlow said:
Love to listen to the Gamescast where discussion about actual video games they're playing is relegated to an 8-minute segment, while almost two hours is dedicated to reading out Game Award nominations.

Every time they are really having a good in-depth discussion about something Tim like can't stand it and tries to move it along.

Lashley · Dec 9, 2019

#Don'tLetTimHost

Lashley · Dec 9, 2019

names2hard4you · Dec 9, 2019

I knew there was a lot going on tmrw but seeing it written down kinda makes me excited. Tons of content for creators this week, if you add the Game Awards in there

icyflamez96 · Dec 9, 2019

Screencast for what?

Noog · Dec 9, 2019

I know he's an especially controversial guy, but I really do think Kinda Funny's biggest issue is the lack of a Colin-like host. Colin seemed to have the perfect combination of gaming knowledge, chemistry with the others, and strong hosting personality. Every guest they've brought on since, except Gary and arguably Andrea has lacked at least one of those elements.

The truth is, people followed KF for Greg and Colin. We loved Nick, Tim, and Kevin as well, but those two were the glue. Now that Colin's gone and Greg is only here half to three-quarters of the time, it just isn't as enjoyable anymore. I love all of the new cohosts they've brought on from Danny to Jared to Imran, but for some reason they never clicked quote as well as they should have. Jared was fantastic on Gamescoop and the Comedy Button, but in terms of hosting a podcast with the KF guys, the chemistry never felt right. Same with Fran, same with Imran.

I actually feel bad complaining because I fucking love the KF crew, but it just doesn't feel right for me lately.

ghornett · Dec 9, 2019

icyflamez96 said:
Screencast for what?

Solo. Edit: nvm https://twitter.com/kindafunnyvids/status/1204169457989406720

shaneo632 · Dec 9, 2019

Fran was absolutely insufferable in the Game Awards episode. Jeez.

Also cringe whenever they talk about being "objective." It's art. Your opinion is subjective even if it's the majority opinion.

Plinkerton · Dec 10, 2019

names2hard4you said:
I knew there was a lot going on tmrw but seeing it written down kinda makes me excited. Tons of content for creators this week, if you add the Game Awards in there

It is funny how this random week in December has slowly become one of the biggest of the year... even without PSX this week is still like a mini-E3 these days.

Plinkerton · Dec 10, 2019

If Fran spent half as much time trying to define the rules of the discussions on Gamescast as he does actually having the discussion, he'd make it so much more enjoyable to listen to.

Dimple · Dec 10, 2019

IanGrag said:
I know he's an especially controversial guy, but I really do think Kinda Funny's biggest issue is the lack of a Colin-like host. Colin seemed to have the perfect combination of gaming knowledge, chemistry with the others, and strong hosting personality. Every guest they've brought on since, except Gary and arguably Andrea has lacked at least one of those elements.

The truth is, people followed KF for Greg and Colin. We loved Nick, Tim, and Kevin as well, but those two were the glue. Now that Colin's gone and Greg is only here half to three-quarters of the time, it just isn't as enjoyable anymore. I love all of the new cohosts they've brought on from Danny to Jared to Imran, but for some reason they never clicked quote as well as they should have. Jared was fantastic on Gamescoop and the Comedy Button, but in terms of hosting a podcast with the KF guys, the chemistry never felt right. Same with Fran, same with Imran.

I actually feel bad complaining because I fucking love the KF crew, but it just doesn't feel right for me lately.

Barrett's probably the closest to a Colin esque personality right now, in that he's very knowledgeable when he joins in and has really good chemistry with Greg and Tim.

On another note Fran was particularly obnoxious this last game cast, like I really don't understand how anyone enjoys his presence in Gamescast at this point.

Plinkerton · Dec 10, 2019

Dimple said:
On another note Fran was particularly obnoxious this last game cast, like I really don't understand how anyone enjoys his presence in Gamescast at this point.

I actually don't mind Fran when he's actually participating in discussions, like when he was talking about Fallen Order, a game he seemed genuinely passionate about, it was great the listen to.

The problem is he spends so long waffling and talking about how things should be discussed that he rarely actually contributes anything.

TJ_Electronica · Dec 10, 2019

So after Apple Podcasts totally fucked up yesterday and kept crashing on me (seemed to be a worldwide issue?) I pivoted to Spotify for my podcast needs.

Anyone have experience with Spotify for listening to podcasts? Can I still expect to see the KF shows uploaded around the same time?

names2hard4you · Dec 10, 2019

TJ_Electronica said:
So after Apple Podcasts totally fucked up yesterday and kept crashing on me (seemed to be a worldwide issue?) I pivoted to Spotify for my podcast needs.

Anyone have experience with Spotify for listening to podcasts? Can I still expect to see the KF shows uploaded around the same time?

I only listen to podcasts on Spotify and the uploads are pretty timely. To the point that sometimes the podcast is up quicker on Spotify than YouTube.

ghornett · Dec 10, 2019

I just reset my phone and the problem went away.

Deleted member 135 · Dec 10, 2019

Was Greg drunk while watching the SoP today?

icyflamez96 · Dec 10, 2019

SG-17 said:
Was Greg drunk while watching the SoP today?

y

kiaaa · Dec 10, 2019

Plinkerton said:
If Fran spent half as much time trying to define the rules of the discussions on Gamescast as he does actually having the discussion, he'd make it so much more enjoyable to listen to.

He also created this whole weird vibe that other outlets somehow lack his "objectivity" when picking games and that they just enjoy spectacle.

Plinkerton · Dec 10, 2019

kiaaa said:
He also created this whole weird vibe that other outlets somehow lack his "objectivity" when picking games and that they just enjoy spectacle.

Yeah the whole show seemed a bit off to be honest... like what's with this idea that games will win in specific categories to make up for the fact that they don't win GOTY? Is that really a thing?

I dunno feel like GOTY discussions are arbitrary enough as they are without someone like Fran trying to redefine the rules all the time.

Sauce Marlow · Dec 10, 2019

Plinkerton said:
Yeah the whole show seemed a bit off to be honest... like what's with this idea that games will win in specific categories to make up for the fact that they don't win GOTY? Is that really a thing?

I dunno feel like GOTY discussions are arbitrary enough as they are without someone like Fran trying to redefine the rules all the time.

Yes, this is definitely a real thing. You see it all the time at other award shows like the Oscars, where a film might not necessarily be thought of as a genuine contender for Best Picture, but voters still want to reward it.

Honestly, I was frustrated at everybody on that episode with how they were all trying to define what "Game of the Year" is. Surely GOTY is just whatever you thought was the best game that came out in that year. It's really not that hard. They're always obsessed with such arbitrary bullshit like "what game had the most impact".

Lashley · Dec 10, 2019

I didn't think their list discussions could get any worse and then Fran joined 😢

icyflamez96 · Dec 10, 2019

Well again the episode is predicting what the game awards goty will be, not their own personal lists no? I didn't listen through yet.

Lashley · Dec 10, 2019

icyflamez96 said:
Well again the episode is predicting what the game awards goty will be, not their own personal lists no? I didn't listen through yet.

Anything gets bogged down when Fran just argues over semantics

EdReedFan20 · Dec 11, 2019

I don't like to complain, but man the recent KFP really annoyed me. I'll spoiler it, as it's only available to Patrons until Friday, for those that like to wait for the podcast.

How can Nick seriously ask if Disney+ is an utter failure. If Disney+ only offered the legacy stuff and no original content, it would still be worth it many times over for the price they sell it at. That's actually what drew me to it in the first place. The fact that we're getting new content is icing on the cake. And if they slowly drip fed the old stuff to keep fans wanting more, you know people would complain about that. It's crazy how quickly people can turn on something. I couldn't help but shake my head when I saw the title of the episode after it finished downloading in my podcast app.

Sauce Marlow · Dec 11, 2019

Nick is straight up my least favourite member of Kinda Funny at this point. Dude hasn't had a cognisant thought in years. He quite literally is the film version of 2017-era Colin. It's like he deliberately tries to come up with the most ridiculous hot takes ever just so he has something to say.

I would take Disney+'s extensive back catalogue of great content and a drip-feed of new interesting content any day of the week. Who genuinely needed or even expected dozens of brand new shows upon the launch of Disney+?

ZeoVGM · Dec 11, 2019

Gary going the fuck in on GD today.

Secretofmateria · Dec 11, 2019

I prefer the way it was from like 2014-17, they were smaller scale, and the content was higher in quality. I hate that things with colin went down the way they did, bc i came to kf for them. I was a beyond listener for like 6 years before that. Their personalities complimented each other

Sauce Marlow · Dec 11, 2019

Is it even possible for them to go smaller scale now? They essentially have 3 employees who are hired purely to produce/edit things. They desperately need to focus on quality over quantity, but I can't see them doing that based on their staff.

ZeoVGM · Dec 11, 2019

Secretofmateria said:
I prefer the way it was from like 2014-17, they were smaller scale, and the content was higher in quality. I hate that things with colin went down the way they did, bc i came to kf for them. I was a beyond listener for like 6 years before that. Their personalities complimented each other

Things with Colin went down the only way they could have.

He's a jackass and shouldn't have a platform so it really doesn't matter if their personalities compliment each other.

ElephantShell · Dec 11, 2019

ZeoVGM said:
Things with Colin went down the only way they could have.

He's a jackass and shouldn't have a platform so it really doesn't matter if their personalities compliment each other.

Yeah he was a good host but no host is good enough to be worth putting up with his bullshit.

TJ_Electronica · Dec 12, 2019

Secretofmateria said:
I prefer the way it was from like 2014-17, they were smaller scale, and the content was higher in quality. I hate that things with colin went down the way they did, bc i came to kf for them. I was a beyond listener for like 6 years before that. Their personalities complimented each other

I don't miss Colin but I sort of agree about the scale. I'm not a huge fan of the rebranding of the In Review series, the way they've started just doing generic as hell "YouTube" screenshots for their videos or Greg and Fran jumping on board for the Borderlands show.

I've sort of fallen out of their content -- KFGD, KFP and In Review used to be must listen for me but now I'm only listening to KFGD and that's only when I don't have anything else in my podcast feed.

Plinkerton · Dec 12, 2019

Yesterday's KFGD might have been one of the all-time great episodes. Capped perfectly by Gary going all in on the Tories at the end.

Everything from Screencats talk, all the porn stuff, Blackadder was hilarious.

names2hard4you · Dec 12, 2019

This is peak Gary and Greg content right here. KFGD for yesterday was a riot

icyflamez96 · Dec 12, 2019

Yup great ep

Plinkerton · Dec 12, 2019

KFGD with Greg and Gary > PSILY in my opinion.

On the topic of Colin, there's so much revisionist history around him and Kinda Funny... yes Colin was great back on Beyond, but everyone seems to forget that people hated him on PSILY, especially near the end. Everyone moaned for months about how negative he'd become and how he was clearly disinterested in the show (and what KF was doing generally)... that's what lead to Colin Was Right, which itself ended up only being a bandaid before he left.

I feel like, because he's not there anymore, people associate him with the "good old days" when really the content was probably great in spite of him, not because of him (definitely in his last year or so at least).

Macca · Dec 12, 2019

Plinkerton said:
KFGD with Greg and Gary > PSILY in my opinion.

On the topic of Colin, there's so much revisionist history around him and Kinda Funny... yes Colin was great back on Beyond, but everyone seems to forget that people hated him on PSILY, especially near the end. Everyone moaned for months about how negative he'd become and how he was clearly disinterested in the show (and what KF was doing generally)... that's what lead to Colin Was Right, which itself ended up only being a bandaid before he left.

I feel like, because he's not there anymore, people associate him with the "good old days" when really the content was probably great in spite of him, not because of him (definitely in his last year or so at least).

He was good at the start. But it seemed a couple of months in like he regreted leaving IGN to do this with the other guys, thats when you had certain shows where Colin just sat there and didn't say anything.

Sauce Marlow · Dec 12, 2019

Plinkerton said:
KFGD with Greg and Gary > PSILY in my opinion.

On the topic of Colin, there's so much revisionist history around him and Kinda Funny... yes Colin was great back on Beyond, but everyone seems to forget that people hated him on PSILY, especially near the end. Everyone moaned for months about how negative he'd become and how he was clearly disinterested in the show (and what KF was doing generally)... that's what lead to Colin Was Right, which itself ended up only being a bandaid before he left.

I feel like, because he's not there anymore, people associate him with the "good old days" when really the content was probably great in spite of him, not because of him (definitely in his last year or so at least).

It's baffling that people have such short memories. It wasn't that long ago that Colin's shitty attitude was the BIGGEST issue with Kinda Funny's content. He was a fucking petulant child for his entire last 6 months at the company, and I'm almost 100% sure he was looking to create an incident that would give him an easy excuse to quit the company. I think the moment that encapsulates how awful he was toward the end is his reaction towards the Switch upon release. He'd spent months shitting all over it, and when it finally released to critical acclaim alongside BOTW it was like he just couldn't admit to being wrong.

The PSILY thread over at the old site was almost exclusively used to compile the god awful opinions Colin would spew each week.

Plinkerton · Dec 12, 2019

Sauce Marlow said:
It's baffling that people have such short memories. It wasn't that long ago that Colin's shitty attitude was the BIGGEST issue with Kinda Funny's content. He was a fucking petulant child for his entire last 6 months at the company, and I'm almost 100% sure he was looking to create an incident that would give him an easy excuse to quit the company. I think the moment that encapsulates how awful he was toward the end is his reaction towards the Switch upon release. He'd spent months shitting all over it, and when it finally released to critical acclaim alongside BOTW it was like he just couldn't admit to being wrong.

The PSILY thread over at the old site was almost exclusively used to compile the god awful opinions Colin would spew each week.

Yep that sounds about right... even putting aside Colin's political bullshit, he was the worst part of KF for the majority of the time he was there. And I say that as someone who loved old-school Beyond.

Maximo · Dec 12, 2019

Sauce Marlow said:
It's baffling that people have such short memories. It wasn't that long ago that Colin's shitty attitude was the BIGGEST issue with Kinda Funny's content. He was a fucking petulant child for his entire last 6 months at the company, and I'm almost 100% sure he was looking to create an incident that would give him an easy excuse to quit the company. I think the moment that encapsulates how awful he was toward the end is his reaction towards the Switch upon release. He'd spent months shitting all over it, and when it finally released to critical acclaim alongside BOTW it was like he just couldn't admit to being wrong.

The PSILY thread over at the old site was almost exclusively used to compile the god awful opinions Colin would spew each week.

Yeah Colin was my favourite (before I knew of his political beliefs) but he became insurable as you said the last 6+ months, it was clear he had absolutely no interest and every time the topic was brought up of what games they played recently Colin's response was always *Eh not much done some gardening and hanging out with the girlfriend*. And when he actually showed interest it was shoving politics into everything and dragging topics down that had no correlation together, and the absolute REFUSAL to admit any wrong doing when he got something wrong, saying dumb shit like *I can't believe Australia doesn't have internet as good as America, probably have to pay more tho* or saying he doesn't understand why someone would relate to a video game character HE NEVER DID and couldn't understand why the hell someone would like to see a minority character.

He was looking for an out and played victim when he finally sparked the fire.

Deleted member 179 · Dec 12, 2019

No podcast will ever match the Greg/Colin/Ryan/Goldfarb Beyond days. That includes when Colin was bringing down PS I Love You.

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