Which ia worse because it means every other patch coming is gonna be massive too.
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Kingdom Come: Deliverance Day One Patch Size is 23GB
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And this is why good coding practices are important. Don't build monoliths, kids!
If a patch is going to deter people, then maybe they weren't excited in the first place? Looking for a reason to be put off?
Would you rather not have a patch and have stuff not work as intended, or have a patch and have components of the game improved?
(Sidenote: WOW, WillJPowers! I remember you from THE TESTER man!)
Would you rather not have a patch and have stuff not work as intended, or have a patch and have components of the game improved?
(Sidenote: WOW, WillJPowers! I remember you from THE TESTER man!)
Yeah, started from the bottom, now I'm here. I still think I have the strangest fucking origin story in all of gaming.
To think that this "patch" is larger than the vanilla 1.0 retail release of The Witcher 3...
I think people would have preferred a method of patching that doesn't require re-downloading the entire game every time there's an update. Is that an option or is it only the two you proposed?
Depends entirely on how the game is structured. Hypothetically this massive update might have restructured the game to allow for easier future patching. This is basically the same version of CE as SGW3, which used sequential file names for archives. (Which are simply zip files, although some developers use CE's encryption on them. Since KCD will have mod support, I imagine that won't be done.)
If you put all your script files in an archive named Script.pak, you can patch it by adding a new archive named Script.p1.pak The key is to keep the files compartmentalized as much as possible otherwise it turns into a mess. There's no need to replace archives. (Looking at you, Star Citizen.) You can simply add new ones that overrule them. So we'll have to see how future KCD patches turn out.
Interesting thanks. I think I'm gonna play the waiting game.
It releases tomorrow? where is the steam key? I can't find it on the backer page.
Apologies. This quote is taken from the press release set to go out Monday. The game releases Tuesday, Feb 13th.
Eh whatever
This usually bothers me but I've gotten used to huge downloads on my ps4 and this game is just too important to miss out on
This usually bothers me but I've gotten used to huge downloads on my ps4 and this game is just too important to miss out on
It has been known for a long time for ps4 games its always been like this. Basically even when the fix is small the download will be big regardless because of how ps4 handle data in their games.
If only I live in a place where 22-23ish GB download only add 'an hour' before i can play the game, hahaha.... *sigh*
What about the digital version? Is this patch also required for it?
Are we reading the same comment???
Here's what the developer wrote, and this is what I was referring to:
We could have used this time to get some rest, or we could use it to create some additional content and sell it to you as DLC, but we went back to the version-to-be-released and worked on it. The results are obvious: quests are more balanced, RPG progression is smoother, the game runs faster and every facet of the game got more polish.
He's talking about major stuff. Quest balancing. RPG progression. Making the game run smoother. This is being done AFTER the game was sent out.
I know exactly what you guys are going to say... that this sort of thing is 'normal'. Okay, that argument needs to die fast. Last year I bought game after game that simply wasn't ready - but was released to market anyhow. Valve actually issued me with a warning, saying I was refunding too many games. I sent them an e-mail saying developers are releasing too many unfinished games.
Also, for what it's worth. What you said - namely, that "the patch size is due to how the game files are structured by the engine" - is a weak excuse. The translation of that is, "Our coding is fucked up, and you're going to have to pay the price - hope you don't live in a country where you have slow internet and a small data cap."
I simply don't understand why some gamers will bend over backwards to defend developers when they do things like this.
I seem to remember that this is not the first time this is happening, that in order to patch a broken window devs need to also patch the entire floor too.
I could be wrong but I think that was the case on PS3, not PS4.
Ooooh hmmm perhaps I am wrong.
Still though, the patches for some games are just insane. Doom was like what, 30 GB? That's just insane.
Cant wait for Tuesday to play it, the only issue is splitting time between this and Monster hunter world.
You know this for a fact?
After the terrible year we had in gaming last year, I don't assume things anymore.
It's a day one patch, so it'll be available as soon as the game launches, presumably. It's not adding 23 gigs of content, it's just modifying 23 gigs of files. It shouldn't increase the game's total size by much, if anything.
Also, I thought 2017 was a pretty good year for gaming. Divinity: Original Sin 2, Prey, The Evil Within 2, Wolfenstein 2, AC: Origins, Zelda: BotW, Mario Odyssey, PUBG, Persona 5... a lot of good games came out. There was the whole loot box fiasco but that was largely overblown and really only affected Battlefront 2.
I'm curious about how many pre-rendered cutscenes this game has. I know it has some, but what's the ratio? Are all the excellently acted main story beats pre-rendered?
That's not what I meant.
I meant that last year was a terrible year with regards to the state that games were in upon release - at least on the PC. I can't count the number of games that were buggy and broken on day one.
Hence the reason I said I don't make assumptions anymore.
Which is why I asked you if you know for a fact that the digital release won't have a huge day one patch. It's just not safe to assume anything anymore.
The digital release will already include the day one patch because it's a day one patch. I suppose there's a chance that they could release the patch later in the day, though that would be pretty dumb. If you're really concerned, if you could just wait a day before downloading.
Also, I'm still not seeing how PC games were especially buggy or broken last year. Off the top of my head, I can think of Nier Automata having issues and... that's pretty much it.
FIve bucks says this has to do with the way -paks are handled in base CryEngine. The actual physical changes to the code are comparatively smaller than this, but the whole groups of -paks need to be resent in full.
Base is 900p, Pro is 1080p, there might be some extra difference in graphics settings too (foliage distance etc).
PS4 runs at 900p with lower quality visual effects. PS4 Pro runs at 1080p.
Okay, not too bad, i use a computer monitor so I won't even see the difference
Edit: about language in the game, how does this work? Original voice with english subtitles? ( once you unlock the skill to understand that language i guess)
Edit: about language in the game, how does this work? Original voice with english subtitles? ( once you unlock the skill to understand that language i guess)
It's all in English, you don't have to "learn" the language to understand dialogue in the game, you might be thinking of the book skill, which affects you being able to read things or not.
Played 3-4 hours on X1X now and you can choose the spoken language (Aswell as text language) in the menu. Now there are some people with a different language but it makes sense you can't understand what they say after you learn more about their backstory during the main quest.
So will there really be nowhere to discuss this game then? I went to catch up on the other thread to read impressions and find that it's been derailed and shit down. Then the replacement thread got fucked up even worse.
Can there not just be two separate threads? One to discuss the game itself and then another to discuss Daniel Vavra?
Can there not just be two separate threads? One to discuss the game itself and then another to discuss Daniel Vavra?
Will that 23GB be addded after downloading the game off steam or included with the game download?
At least for the time being. From the sounds of it, the OT will be treated differently?
Given how all the other threads have been handled and we've been hearing about this "policy" for a week or so now, I wouldn't count on it.
Next week should be fun. :/
can someone tell me if the game works without the patch? that's a huge day 1 patch.
as for derailing, maybe keep one thread open, like the "seperating game from its creator" thread, and funnel the discussion there.
edit: PS4 retail version
as for derailing, maybe keep one thread open, like the "seperating game from its creator" thread, and funnel the discussion there.
edit: PS4 retail version
The responsibility for this probably rests mostly with Cryengine. Judging by the only game that I know of that modified the way data is loaded in CE, it requires an understandably non-trivial amount of work to change.
How much time did it take CIG to get to the delta patcher again? :p
How much time did it take CIG to get to the delta patcher again? :p
Considering the pre-load hasn't been enabled yet, the patch should be included.
Seriously. It's fucking annoying. Some people have early copies - I just want to hear some cool shit about the game, straight up. Like, I'm not even some "keep your politics outta mah gaming!!" type dude in any sense whatsoever, but these "discussions" taking place literally have not a single thing to do with the content of the game. Which is, incidentally, something only a couple people even have first hand knowledge of at this point.
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