Compression is a thing you know if the game doesn't have huge video files (and i highly doubt this has any) it should compress pretty well.
if the game cant run at all from the data present on the disc and it doesnt show Internet Connection Required on the box, i'd be scammy af thoScam is definitely a bit much and i really don't see a huge issue here unless your internet connection is truly terrible but then you will probably run into problems with most games now since pretty much everything requires at least a day 1 patch these days, let's face it digital is the future the sooner ppl get used to it the better, i'm on PC only i have not seen a physical game in years you get used to it pretty fast and as far as i'm concerned there are no downsides to digital only.
LOL!!!!!
Not sure if you're serious. If you are, that's not how patches work.
People said in the other thread that the disc only comes with like 100mb of data, so it's not the patch that's huge, this is the whole game.
Wait so what happens if you try to launch the game without updating it?
Looks like it'll be on release according to the subreddit.
A Warhorse PR guy mentioned in a preview video that the game has about 4 hours worth of cutscenes. Don't know about their file size though.Compression is a thing you know if the game doesn't have huge video files (and i highly doubt this has any) it should compress pretty well.
Hey guys, chiming in here for a second. I can talk about the patch to a certain extent, but first, here's a note from Martin Klima, Executive Producer at Warhorse:
"Four years after our Kickstarter campaign, our game is set to be released tomorrow. The task was really big and our team although still quite small and we always wanted to deliver, to create the game we wanted and we believed you wanted. Before talking about some background, all of us at Warhorse would like to thank our community, the backers and friends who helped us to bring this dream to life by giving us the chance to develop what we believe is a unique RPG experience!
The production realities of game development mean that a 'release' version has to be finalized some time before the actual release date. We could have used this time to get some rest, or we could use it to create some additional content and sell it to you as DLC, but we went back to the version-to-be-released and worked on it. The results are obvious: quests are more balanced, RPG progression is smoother, the game runs faster and every facet of the game got more polish. The drawback of course is that most of the data in the old build was replaced and has to be downloaded as a patch. At a hefty size, it's going to take some time to download and it's a shame. Still, we strongly believe that after four years wait it will pay off to wait a little bit longer while the Day 1 patch is downloading. Trust me, it will deliver the awesome experience YOU deserve!"
A Warhorse PR guy mentioned in a preview video that the game has about 4 hours worth of cutscenes. Don't know about their file size though.
The Twitch streams have been fine that I've seen, no major bugs. But of course that doesn't mean on release, with a much larger player pool, that some won't be discovered.I have a strange feeling that Kingdom Come is going to be bug ridden on release, didn't Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5 have similar patch sizes?. This is not a good sign
A Warhorse PR guy mentioned in a preview video that the game has about 4 hours worth of cutscenes. Don't know about their file size though.
Alright. It was just an uneducated guess then.Cutscenes are all in-engine judging by the videos i've seen so far.
Scam is definitely a bit much and i really don't see a huge issue here unless your internet connection is truly terrible but then you will probably run into problems with most games now since pretty much everything requires at least a day 1 patch these days, let's face it digital is the future the sooner ppl get used to it the better, i'm on PC only i have not seen a physical game in years you get used to it pretty fast and as far as i'm concerned there are no downsides to digital only.
if the game cant run at all from the data present on the disc and it doesnt show Internet Connection Required on the box, i'd be scammy af tho
So, let me stop the rumor mill dead in its tracks before everyone continues jumping to conclusions. The way that I've been told that the engine works, is it takes the entire game and separates the PKG or ISO into 2GB archives. If during a patch you so much as alter a 1KB text file within any of these 2GB archives, then you need to reupload the ENTIRE 2GB portion. That beings said, this is a major patch that improves overarching mechanics throughout the game, so it touches almost all of these 2GB archives in the entire game build. Essentially you are having to redownload the game to replace the existing files. It shouldn't stack them and inflate on your harddrive, but rather replace the previously downloaded build files.
People said in the other thread that the disc only comes with like 100mb of data, so it's not the patch that's huge, this is the whole game.
So, let me stop the rumor mill dead in its tracks before everyone continues jumping to conclusions. The way that I've been told that the engine works, is it takes the entire game and separates the PKG or ISO into 2GB archives. If during a patch you so much as alter a 1KB text file within any of these 2GB archives, then you need to reupload the ENTIRE 2GB portion. That beings said, this is a major patch that improves overarching mechanics throughout the game, so it touches almost all of these 2GB archives in the entire game build. Essentially you are having to redownload the game to replace the existing files. It shouldn't stack them and inflate on your harddrive, but rather replace the previously downloaded build files.
because some people only buy retail discs.
They don't really address the disc only having 100ish mb of data (if that's actually true).
That's how a lot of games work, but the rumor part is that the game only comes with 100mb, can you confirm that's not true?So, let me stop the rumor mill dead in its tracks before everyone continues jumping to conclusions. The way that I've been told that the engine works, is it takes the entire game and separates the PKG or ISO into 2GB archives. If during a patch you so much as alter a 1KB text file within any of these 2GB archives, then you need to reupload the ENTIRE 2GB portion. That beings said, this is a major patch that improves overarching mechanics throughout the game, so it touches almost all of these 2GB archives in the entire game build. Essentially you are having to redownload the game to replace the existing files. It shouldn't stack them and inflate on your harddrive, but rather replace the previously downloaded build files.
Well.
Disk = Disc
Netzwerk = Network
And the game specifically said I have to download a 21,82 GB patch
They don't really address the disc only having 100ish mb of data.
Someone needs to test this for sciencePeople said in the other thread that the disc only comes with like 100mb of data, so it's not the patch that's huge, this is the whole game.
That's how a lot of games work, but the rumor part is that the game only comes with 100mb, can you confirm that's not true?
From the other thread:
So the disc only has 100MB on it? Why even bother with the disc and retail to begin with? Should have been a digital download only game.
Hey guys, chiming in here for a second. I can talk about the patch to a certain extent, but first, here's a note from Martin Klima, Executive Producer at Warhorse:
"Four years after our Kickstarter campaign, our game is set to be released tomorrow. The task was really big and our team although still quite small and we always wanted to deliver, to create the game we wanted and we believed you wanted. Before talking about some background, all of us at Warhorse would like to thank our community, the backers and friends who helped us to bring this dream to life by giving us the chance to develop what we believe is a unique RPG experience!
The production realities of game development mean that a 'release' version has to be finalized some time before the actual release date. We could have used this time to get some rest, or we could use it to create some additional content and sell it to you as DLC, but we went back to the version-to-be-released and worked on it. The results are obvious: quests are more balanced, RPG progression is smoother, the game runs faster and every facet of the game got more polish. The drawback of course is that most of the data in the old build was replaced and has to be downloaded as a patch. At a hefty size, it's going to take some time to download and it's a shame. Still, we strongly believe that after four years wait it will pay off to wait a little bit longer while the Day 1 patch is downloading. Trust me, it will deliver the awesome experience YOU deserve!"
That's actually pretty neat if that's the case. Instead of wasting your time making you install the whole game only to replace it, it already detects the patch and ignores the disc. Didn't know consoles could even do that.The same thing happened to LA Noire Remastered. The entire game is probably on the disc if you install it offline, but if you are online, it downloads a patch that is there entire game, and it pretty much overwrites everything that is on the disc. I don`t get why they do this.
Awesome, that puts it to rest, I'll even edit my post in the first page. Thank you!The game only comes with 100mb? This is 100% not true. The game, whether physical or digital, comes as a fully first party QA approved product. However, since we all waiting four years the for game, I'd recommend waiting another hour to download the patch that the Warhorse team was able to use the 6-weeks (at least) between submission of the final build and its release date to continue to work on and polish.
Hey guys, chiming in here for a second. I can talk about the patch to a certain extent, but first, here's a note from Martin Klima, Executive Producer at Warhorse:
"Four years after our Kickstarter campaign, our game is set to be released tomorrow. The task was really big and our team although still quite small and we always wanted to deliver, to create the game we wanted and we believed you wanted. Before talking about some background, all of us at Warhorse would like to thank our community, the backers and friends who helped us to bring this dream to life by giving us the chance to develop what we believe is a unique RPG experience!
The production realities of game development mean that a 'release' version has to be finalized some time before the actual release date. We could have used this time to get some rest, or we could use it to create some additional content and sell it to you as DLC, but we went back to the version-to-be-released and worked on it. The results are obvious: quests are more balanced, RPG progression is smoother, the game runs faster and every facet of the game got more polish. The drawback of course is that most of the data in the old build was replaced and has to be downloaded as a patch. At a hefty size, it's going to take some time to download and it's a shame. Still, we strongly believe that after four years wait it will pay off to wait a little bit longer while the Day 1 patch is downloading. Trust me, it will deliver the awesome experience YOU deserve!"
The same thing happened to LA Noire Remastered. The entire game is probably on the disc if you install it offline, but if you are online, it downloads a patch that is there entire game, and it pretty much overwrites everything that is on the disc. I don`t get why they do this.
That's actually pretty neat if that's the case. Instead of wasting your time making you install the whole game only to replace it, it already detects the patch and ignores the disc. Didn't know consoles could even do that.
Awesome, that puts it to rest, I'll even edit my post in the first page. Thank you!
The game only comes with 100mb? This is 100% not true. The game, whether physical or digital, comes as a fully first party QA approved product. However, since we all waiting four years the for game, I'd recommend waiting another hour to download the patch that the Warhorse team was able to use the 6-weeks (at least) between submission of the final build and its release date to continue to work on and polish.
It doesn`t bother me as long as the entire game is on the disc, but I don`t know why the patch have to replace the entire disc content.
I think it's just an unfortunate consequence of the patch changing things that are all over the place and require full 2GB file replacements, which ended up adding to be the whole game.It doesn`t bother me as long as the entire game is on the disc, but I don`t know why the patch have to replace the entire disc content.
That screenshot is from me and I don't know what should be not true about this. It downloads the complete game and only installs around 100mb from the disc, what can I say, it's what it is.
Haven't tested to install it offline but that's what it does when I'm online.
The game only comes with 100mb? This is 100% not true. The game, whether physical or digital, comes as a fully first party QA approved product. However, since we all waiting four years the for game, I'd recommend waiting another hour to download the patch that the Warhorse team was able to use the 6-weeks (at least) between submission of the final build and its release date to continue to work on and polish.
That screenshot is from me and I don't know what should be not true about this. It downloads the complete game and only installs around 100mb from the disc, what can I say, it's what it is.
Haven't tested to install it offline but that's what it does when I'm online.
1.0 save files don't work on the 1.02 patch as well.
Make sure you're downloading your patch before you play with this one!
I think it's just an unfortunate consequence of the patch changing things that are all over the place and require full 2GB file replacements, which ended up adding to be the whole game.
The 1.02 patch is apparently 5GB by itself if you already had 1.01, so that's like 3 files being replaced.
He's not saying your screenshot is false, only that you can in fact play it offline, the game doesn't require an internet conection.
He allrdy addressed that and this doesn't mean there are only 100mb on the disc just that the patch files take priority...