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daniel77733

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,639
Hmmmm, quick question about the GAME...can it be played in third person or is it strictly in first person? Thanks.
 

Ohto

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
558
Here we go with the both sides thing.

Please, enlighten us on how a guy who supports not only gamergate but alt right fascist movements like kekistan has some good points that we should all listen to. Please tell us what aspects of his beliefs are worthy of consideration and debate.

Is it the "harass all women out of the gaming industry" thing? Or maybe the "Jews will not replace us" thing?

I'll send you a pm instead.
 
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YellowMoose

Banned
Dec 21, 2017
177
The game isn't out yet, so we don't know if his political ideology detracts from that.
He's not making fun of labels, he's proudly showing off his far right labels of being against representation, social justice, and diversity.
He was one of the biggest gamergate supporters and would often go about a persecution complex that he's a misogynist.
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The game will probably be amazing, regardless of his political leanings.
 

Mattchew

Banned
Jan 9, 2018
48
User Banned (1 day): Continued hostility towards others, ignoring a mod post.
Jesus christ it's amazing how the same few idiots constantly derail every single topic about this game. Don't they have anything better to do?

I'd imagine the embargo lift will be...fairly close to release. Certainly for console if they've had problems porting it.
 

SmokingBun

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
2,091
How are injuries handled in this game? I honestly want deep cuts, scars and infections.

Like if you screw up really bad, you can lose and arm and can't hold a shield anymore.
 

Forerunner

Resetufologist
The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
14,640
The combat is the only thing I'm eh about. The rest of it looks fantastic. I'll wait for reviews on this one.
 

philm87

Member
Jan 9, 2018
231
I hope the combat is good. I was hoping it would be good on For Honour, but it just became frustrating. I think this type of combat will work better in a single player environment.
 

ApexNorth

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,178
I posted this in the trailer thread, but I will post this here to: Does anyone know when the embargo lifts?
 

SmokingBun

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
2,091
I know realize Vavra might be doing some of the shit he does on purpose, no such thing as bad publicity and all that
Kingdom Come does look like a giant bore and he probably wants people to buy it just to see if he put any racist/sexist beliefs in the game
Or alternatively, alt right fanboys will buy just so they can stick it to the mean 'ol SJW's and such
 
Oct 27, 2017
2,432
I know realize Vavra might be doing some of the shit he does on purpose, no such thing as bad publicity and all that
Kingdom Come does look like a giant bore and he probably wants people to buy it just to see if he put any racist/sexist beliefs in the game
Or alternatively, alt right fanboys will buy just so they can stick it to the mean 'ol SJW's and such
Not sure I agree with any of this, but you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
 

Feeroper

Member
Oct 25, 2017
488
I cant wait for this game!

I had stayed away from previews before because the concept really appeals to me. Now that we are days away I have started watching some of these videos and Im getting pretty hyped!

Some e voice acting in this video was meh, but Im not worried about that, a game like skyrim for instance had the same issue but it really didn't affect my enjoyment of that game. `

What platform are you folks considering getting this on? I`m thinking of Xbox One X, but at the same time I kinda want PC as well for the mod support too. I may double dip if I like it enough, will probably go for Xbox One X for the comfort of couch play initially. Although I could just use my Steam Link for TV play....
 

Deleted member 27751

User-requested account closure
Banned
Oct 30, 2017
3,997
I cant wait for this game!

I had stayed away from previews before because the concept really appeals to me. Now that we are days away I have started watching some of these videos and Im getting pretty hyped!

Some e voice acting in this video was meh, but Im not worried about that, a game like skyrim for instance had the same issue but it really didn't affect my enjoyment of that game. `

What platform are you folks considering getting this on? I`m thinking of Xbox One X, but at the same time I kinda want PC as well for the mod support too. I may double dip if I like it enough, will probably go for Xbox One X for the comfort of couch play initially. Although I could just use my Steam Link for TV play....

I'mma just do that honestly. Been doing it a lot lately thanks to Switch being of similar nature when I sit down and play so may as well do it for PC. And besides, the Steam Controller is goat controller.
 

Reckheim

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,379
I know realize Vavra might be doing some of the shit he does on purpose, no such thing as bad publicity and all that
Kingdom Come does look like a giant bore and he probably wants people to buy it just to see if he put any racist/sexist beliefs in the game
Or alternatively, alt right fanboys will buy just so they can stick it to the mean 'ol SJW's and such
I highly doubt it, if anything he is regretting voicing his opinion as much as he did. You gotta remember, there are livelihoods riding on this game (beside his own), he wouldn't take a huge risk like creating controversy on purpose to get more coverage.
 

His Majesty

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,171
Belgium
I know realize Vavra might be doing some of the shit he does on purpose, no such thing as bad publicity and all that
Kingdom Come does look like a giant bore and he probably wants people to buy it just to see if he put any racist/sexist beliefs in the game
Or alternatively, alt right fanboys will buy just so they can stick it to the mean 'ol SJW's
Please take off the tinfoil hat mate.
 
Dec 6, 2017
10,991
US
So any word on day/night and weather/season cycles? I watched a gameplay video or two but neither of them featured any so I'm still wondering. Anyone have any info on that?
 

SmokingBun

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
2,091
I highly doubt it, if anything he is regretting voicing his opinion as much as he did. You gotta remember, there are livelihoods riding on this game (beside his own), he wouldn't take a huge risk like creating controversy on purpose to get more coverage.

That's basically why I'm buying the game anyway
He's not the one getting hurt from a lost sale, his employee's are

That said, his views should be made to feel unwelcome (though he probably accepts that and just uses it as ammo)
Hell, if his game did fail and the company went under, you can bet he will be blaming the socialists or SJW's or whoever
 
Dec 6, 2017
10,991
US
I hate The Last of Us, the game just feels like such a rehash of a bunch of zombie tropes thrown in with a really bland "tough guy projects dead daughter onto orphan girl" story.
Not to mention the unsatisfying gameplay that boils down to moving objects so you can climb them.

Day/night is in for sure based on the beta I played,; don't know about the other stuff, was hoping someone else would asnwer.

I don't know shit about game development but I assume having changing seasons would be quite the undertaking? I don't know, either way I think it'd be awesome to see the area during winter especially.

I was originally born near this area and it'd be a cool virtual nostalgia trip of sorts to see different seasons of my (well, near) home.
 

Reckheim

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,379
I don't know shit about game development but I assume having changing seasons would be quite the undertaking? I don't know, either way I think it'd be awesome to see the area during winter especially.

I was originally born near this area and it'd be a cool virtual nostalgia trip of sorts to see different seasons of my (well, near) home.

Same, i'm just gonna spend days just walking around lol. Also i'm pretty big into history and castles so this is pretty much the game made for me.
 

Petezatime

Member
Oct 27, 2017
33
I only skimmed this thread and I was initially very interested in this game, but looking at the way this dude presents himself, I'll pass. I have very limited time for games and I don't need to support this dude. There are thousands of good games out there worth my time.

I'm not even commenting specifically on the guy's politics. I mean I just don't like his attitude. Oh lol yr a very manly man who drinks beer and has a beard and your wife wears a corset. How cool you are! Please tell me more about how interesting and subversive you are.

Just my 2 cents.
 

TheWordyGuy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,623
As far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out on this one.

There are a few red flags going up for me personally though. 1) The most recent 'gameplay' trailer had almost no gameplay in it and was almost all cinematics. The gameplay that was shown was just a few seconds long at a time and was tantamount to a highlight reel. 2) This is supposed to be an RPG'? Eh, we've seen virtually nothing of the rpg elements, yet we're one week from launch? 3) Combat looks janky. I get it that the dev was aiming for realism - but it still looks janky. This is a game. It needs to be fun.

Honestly, if the developer truly believed in this game I think they would have released a demo. I remember laughing out loud a number of years ago at a demo released by some developer called Rocksteady - and, yes, it was pretty funny that a Batman game was about to be released... the vast majority of us snickered at it. And then we played the demo and were blown away.

I think it's very important when a developer is new or relatively unknown to release a demo, and prove to the world they have an outstanding game. The fact that I'm not seeing a demo - or even YouTubers with advanced copies - is worrisome.

Hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.
 
Dec 6, 2017
10,991
US
As far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out on this one.

There are a few red flags going up for me personally though. 1) The most recent 'gameplay' trailer had almost no gameplay in it and was almost all cinematics. The gameplay that was shown was just a few seconds long at a time and was tantamount to a highlight reel. 2) This is supposed to be an RPG'? Eh, we've seen virtually nothing of the rpg elements, yet we're one week from launch? 3) Combat looks janky. I get it that the dev was aiming for realism - but it still looks janky. This is a game. It needs to be fun.

Honestly, if the developer truly believed in this game I think they would have released a demo. I remember laughing out loud a number of years ago at a demo released by some developer called Rocksteady - and, yes, it was pretty funny that a Batman game was about to be released... the vast majority of us snickered at it. And then we played the demo and were blown away.

I think it's very important when a developer is new or relatively unknown to release a demo, and prove to the world they have an outstanding game. The fact that I'm not seeing a demo - or even YouTubers with advanced copies - is worrisome.

Hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.

Good point. Especially for a very niche and somewhat eccentric looking title like this.

The combat looks like something that could really go the right way, it looks cool, but playing even a short combat-focused trial or something would be a potential seller for me.
 

Siresly

Prophet of Regret
Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,580
That's basically why I'm buying the game anyway
He's not the one getting hurt from a lost sale, his employee's are

That said, his views should be made to feel unwelcome (though he probably accepts that and just uses it as ammo)
Hell, if his game did fail and the company went under, you can bet he will be blaming the socialists or SJW's or whoever
He did once accuse games media of blacklisting him because he was telling it like it is (supporting Gamergate) when he claimed they didn't report on an update (they did) that revealed an alpha release date or some such.
I think the game will do ok though. It is a bit of a niche game, but people like RPG's and medieval shit. And the niche stuff is a unique selling point. Doesn't have to be a bad thing. Why I backed it.
 

Ohto

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
558
There is quite an amount of videos about different aspects in Youtube. They are most likely from an outdated beta builds, but can give some insight about stuff.

I posted an archery one, there's that alchemy stuff, they themselves posted that part where they investigate a farm etc...

There has been ppl playing this for ages, they backed the game when crowdfunding was open. I think it is fair to them that they are the ones who get to play betas, and not some random Bobs. I mean, they paid for the development (at least a part) of this game so they get to get some perks at least.

EDIT. In the other topic there's links for a big YT preview from a German site, they apparently got an exclusive peak:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-...om-come-deliverance.21206/page-3#post-4217293
 
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Amnixia

▲ Legend ▲
The Fallen
Jan 25, 2018
10,424
I don't know shit about game development but I assume having changing seasons would be quite the undertaking? I don't know, either way I think it'd be awesome to see the area during winter especially.

I was originally born near this area and it'd be a cool virtual nostalgia trip of sorts to see different seasons of my (well, near) home.

Oops, posted in the wrong thread. Thought I had the "controversial gaming opinion" thread open.

Edit: nvm, did post in the right thread was just cross thread quoted :P
 

His Majesty

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,171
Belgium
As far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out on this one.

There are a few red flags going up for me personally though. 1) The most recent 'gameplay' trailer had almost no gameplay in it and was almost all cinematics. The gameplay that was shown was just a few seconds long at a time and was tantamount to a highlight reel. 2) This is supposed to be an RPG'? Eh, we've seen virtually nothing of the rpg elements, yet we're one week from launch?.

Disagree with that. We've seen how you can approach quests in a lot of ways. They have showcased armour and how different types influence you in combat, e.g. plate armour might offer more protection but will slow you down and give you away easier to enemies. There are 20 armour slots in total. You have several attributes you can level by acquiring experience in battle and visiting trainers. Your effectiveness in dialogue is affected by your speech skill but also by the clothes you wear.

Maybe you haven't been following the game all that much or you have a different definition of RPG than I do but otherwise there can't really be any confusion about the fact that this game is a real RPG.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...by-kingdom-come-deliverances-stiff-characters
 

His Majesty

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,171
Belgium
How are injuries handled in this game? I honestly want deep cuts, scars and infections.

Like if you screw up really bad, you can lose and arm and can't hold a shield anymore.
from developer

You will only be able to "heal yourself" when you are not in combat (alchemy, bandages, sleeping). Body parts can take damage to the point where you may not even be able to use them (ex. arrow through your hands - depends on damage and type of arrow). Get hit in the feet and you will be slowed down and much more :0)
 

Ralemont

Member
Jan 3, 2018
4,508
I don't want a witch hunt either. I don't think anyone here really wants him blacklisted from the industry or anything insane like that as much as there is a general sense of disappointment being expressed. I also don't have any problems with people who still want to buy the game and support it.

I think quite a few people here would be very happy to hear he was blacklisted from the industry. I doubt those calling him a scumbag or racist piece of shit are simultaneously concerned for his financial well-being.
 

Raven117

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,112
As far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out on this one.

There are a few red flags going up for me personally though. 1) The most recent 'gameplay' trailer had almost no gameplay in it and was almost all cinematics. The gameplay that was shown was just a few seconds long at a time and was tantamount to a highlight reel. 2) This is supposed to be an RPG'? Eh, we've seen virtually nothing of the rpg elements, yet we're one week from launch? 3) Combat looks janky. I get it that the dev was aiming for realism - but it still looks janky. This is a game. It needs to be fun.
Of all games, I think RPGs suffer the worst from Demo's. The gameplay loop of an rpg is wide...you can't get a verticle slice of it and it be the whole picture.

Its a story trailer. There are plenty of videos out there on the game play. The story will be a very important part of this game (especially without the use of the more fantastical elements). Did you even watch the video? It talks about skill trees, decisions, non-combat options...the whole bit.

I would agree about the combat. Im curious as to whether it works or it doesn't. It is supposed to be slow (because it would be slow...), but the question is whether its fun.
 

Lappe

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
1,651
I know realize Vavra might be doing some of the shit he does on purpose, no such thing as bad publicity and all that
Kingdom Come does look like a giant bore and he probably wants people to buy it just to see if he put any racist/sexist beliefs in the game
Or alternatively, alt right fanboys will buy just so they can stick it to the mean 'ol SJW's and such
Take it easy with that kind of comments. I for one have no affiliation with said groups, nor do I in any way defend this Vavra persons idiotic behavior.
It seem's pretty unfair for comments like this, because there certainly are gamers who appreciate this kind of game, and who clearly don't want to be lumped into said group.

And no I don't think he is doing expressing his complete toolism for marketing purposes. Unless Donald Trump is the head of the marketing campaign, which doesn't really seem plausible other than his willingness to push the U.S back to the middle-age, but the studio IS based on eastern europe, so I don't know, you might be onto something /s

c'mon now
 

TheWordyGuy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,623
Of all games, I think RPGs suffer the worst from Demo's. The gameplay loop of an rpg is wide...you can't get a verticle slice of it and it be the whole picture.

That's an excuse.

I could say the same of virtually any game. Civilization, say - you really can't understand what the game is going to be like after just fifty turns... you need to play through the ages to make a final judgement.

Demos aren't about final judgements. They're about giving you a feel for the game.

To say that RPGs suffer because you can't get 'the whole picture' is almost condescending. We've all played RPGs. We fully understand that playing a portion of the game isn't going to allow us to experience what character or story progression feels like.

Again, what we have here is an unknown developer with a new IP.

They can show us much promotional footage as they want (almost all of it, btw, has been highly edited) - but it pales in comparison with a demo. Just let me experience some of the game on my own without forcing me to do a Steam refund (there were so many terrible ports last year that Valve issued me with a warning for refunding too many games - yeah, not my fault actually).

A demo would address SO many concerns I have, and the fact that there isn't one is really just a red flag thrown on top of a bunch of red flags.
 
Oct 27, 2017
3,654
Really impressed by the trailers I've seen of this, going to wait for some reviews but at the moment hard to see myself not buying it.


Edit - I asked a question that's addressed in a previous post, comment deleted.
 

Raven117

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,112
That's an excuse.

I could say the same of virtually any game. Civilization, say - you really can't understand what the game is going to be like after just fifty turns... you need to play through the ages to make a final judgement.

Demos aren't about final judgements. They're about giving you a feel for the game.

To say that RPGs suffer because you can't get 'the whole picture' is almost condescending. We've all played RPGs. We fully understand that playing a portion of the game isn't going to allow us to experience what character or story progression feels like.

Again, what we have here is an unknown developer with a new IP.

They can show us much promotional footage as they want (almost all of it, btw, has been highly edited) - but it pales in comparison with a demo. Just let me experience some of the game on my own without forcing me to do a Steam refund (there were so many terrible ports last year that Valve issued me with a warning for refunding too many games - yeah, not my fault actually).

A demo would address SO many concerns I have, and the fact that there isn't one is really just a red flag thrown on top of a bunch of red flags.
I think all demo's suck, not just for RPGs, but especially for RPGs. And ease up man, I wasnt being condescending.


Either a person wants to give it a go on day one or they don't. Wait for impressions or not. I don't view them as necessarily redflags, but you do. Okay. Don't buy it. Problem solved!

Im going to, as it seems like something Id like. I can look past a lot of issues with games if I can see and enjoy the ambition of a game. Some folks don't like to do that. (And they aren't wrong).
 

Artdayne

Banned
Nov 7, 2017
5,015
That's an excuse.

I could say the same of virtually any game. Civilization, say - you really can't understand what the game is going to be like after just fifty turns... you need to play through the ages to make a final judgement.

Demos aren't about final judgements. They're about giving you a feel for the game.

To say that RPGs suffer because you can't get 'the whole picture' is almost condescending. We've all played RPGs. We fully understand that playing a portion of the game isn't going to allow us to experience what character or story progression feels like.

Again, what we have here is an unknown developer with a new IP.

They can show us much promotional footage as they want (almost all of it, btw, has been highly edited) - but it pales in comparison with a demo. Just let me experience some of the game on my own without forcing me to do a Steam refund (there were so many terrible ports last year that Valve issued me with a warning for refunding too many games - yeah, not my fault actually).

A demo would address SO many concerns I have, and the fact that there isn't one is really just a red flag thrown on top of a bunch of red flags.

There are a lot of gameplay videos all over the web, you just need to look. They've talked quite a bit about a lot of the RPG systems that are in the game. The developer isn't entirely unknown, in the very least, the lead was the lead in Mafia 1 and 2 which were both received very well, particularly Mafia 1.
 

anthraxus

Banned
Nov 16, 2017
644
User Warned: Stop threadwhining and making generalizations about the community.
I think quite a few people here would be very happy to hear he was blacklisted from the industry. I doubt those calling him a scumbag or racist piece of shit are simultaneously concerned for his financial well-being.
I think gaming sites like this with such extreme leftest opinions aren't that common. Everywhere else I'm seeing threads about the game none of this stuff even gets brought up.
 

Seductivpancakes

user requested ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,790
Brooklyn
I think gaming sites like this with such extreme leftest opinions aren't that common. Everywhere else I'm seeing threads about the game none of this stuff even gets brought up.
Let's stop acting people wishing bad things to happen to others is exclusive to one political ideology.

Also lmao thinking not wanting to support Nazi or white supremacists is "Extreme".
 
Oct 25, 2017
9,007
Canada
I think gaming sites like this with such extreme leftest opinions aren't that common. Everywhere else I'm seeing threads about the game none of this stuff even gets brought up.
A lot of game sites are populated by young folks and/or people who are not interested in discussing the industry or the creators of the media they consume. That's fine and all, but Resetera is pretty different, would you rather it was just another Gamefaqs/Ign/4chan?