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what if i told you i have this nickname since 2005...
its actually short from "Reanimator", i used to play a healer in mmo.
playing CS1 and CS2 and having everyone address you directly WITH voice acting was a hell of an experience let me tell you lmao
He's like one of the three somewhat interesting characters in those games
I am exactly in the same situation.
Sadly falcom Is almost a Sony first party (and lost jp sales from vita with cs3 did not matter for them) , hopefully nisa will do something in the near future but i find It difficult with cs3/4
Anyway being on ps4 means i will finish cs3 longer than a switch game and Will make the wait for cs4 english bearable lol
I feel bad for Laura whenever people call her boring, but placing her above Jusis? Let's calm down now
There's like 100 characters across the cold steel franchise, so a top 10 is clearly not enough.
yes I'm salty gaius and towa didn't make it
It amuses me to no end how Jusis always finds his way at the top in these polls somehow, whether it be waifu polls or what have you. I'll take a male tsundere hero for Calvard, thanks.
It's not like I NEEDED the power of kizunas or anything, geez...
I don't understand why he's so high. I found him kind of boring, and like, third from the bottom in class vii. (guess the other two. if you like)
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Well, the two worst characters are 1 and 2, so I'm not going to read anything into this.
I like using him for combat, by the end of CS2 he's in a very interesting situation thanks to his family, and also I guess I just have more tolerance towards male tsunderes compared to female ones, I find them actually endearing
Ah, allright. I agree that the most interesting thing about him is Rufus :)
Male tsundere, typically a no nonsense character with a wicked sense of humor in the face of the cheese Lean Mean Rean Machine, and prefers riding horses over motorcycles. Also, great with kids. What's not to like?
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I don't get how anyone can really hate her based on that prologue, sure she has an attitude and doesn't like rean but she's completely justified in that
yea im not forming any character opinions off a demo (which I havent played anyway lol). Like forming any character opinions off the prologue of CS1 would've been ridiculous.
His complete and total lack of personality apart from hating Machias, and not being quite as shitty a noble as his brother, but not as good of a noble as Laura?
I don't think any character has a personality if those are your standards for what constitutes a personality.
No, those were exceptions to his lack of one. He has minor personality traits, 2 of which I mentioned, but for me he was basically a non-entity. Hell, Elliot had more of a personality: he liked playing instruments, he was shy and sensative, he went to thors to please his dead, who he's been living in the shadow of, and he was afraid of disapointing. His considered his sister as somewhat of a mother figure.
I'm of the opinion that Jusis is there just to introduce us to Rufus, who's a far more important character.
You mean you don't like talking about music?
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I feel like a lot of the CS cast got done dirty by the first two games. Some of the field studies in particular being fairly short which is where most of their character development happens. Definitely felt the kind of "rushed nature" considering I played CS1 and 2 after finishing Zero and Ao which even with the not great translation of Zero and while not as terrible as Zero Ao's still kinda spotty in some places there's a lot of character development packed between the two games even for the characters that are just introduced in Ao.
Any scene where Elliot and his dad are on the same screen is great though. I hope CS3 gives some more development on the original cast.
Any scene where Elliot and his dad are on the same screen is great though. I hope CS3 gives some more development on the original cast.
Yeah, it's ridiculous how many voices grew on me throughout CS1. Won't bash any of CS3's voice work until I'm at least halfway in, but I will say I like most of what I hear so far.
Might be because she got to be the unfortunate victim of
of playing as "Alisa" in the callback to the CS1 prologue "Female character fell breast first onto male character" scene, which was already a bad scene and just weird for the characters to do in CS1, let alone call back to it in CS3.
How is he not as good of a noble as Laura? The two aren't exactly competing for a similar spot, but rather they're two sides of the same coin.
Laura's from a stable home, has a doting father who loves her and who she looks up to and she was raised in a small community where she's adored and even has her own harem/fanclub. At the same time, she's extremely sheltered, is rather naïve as a result and tends to relate everything she does to her swordsmanship, which hampers her ability to relate to people who don't share her fixation. This even comes back in her use in battle, where she's your proverbial hammer that turns everything into a nail, but has little utility aside from the one thing she's extremely good at.
Her development comes from becoming aware of this overspecialization and trying to bond with people who fall outside her usual comfort zone in an attempt to become more wholesome. Despite that, she already knows what she wants wants out of life from the get go and where she wants her life's path to go.
Jusis is the antithesis of all of that. He's from a broken home, has a father who merely tolerates his presence at the best of times and he was raised in a large city with a large noble population who kisses up to him to his face and shit-talks him behind his back. Navigating the viper pit of high society, which he wasn't born into but introduced to as a teenager (causing him to aggressively play up the part of the detached noble), left him utterly jaded (pun not intended) and his half noble-half commoner status also left him somewhat isolated, leaving him to find solace in the company of horses and children who are too young to have the complexities of the class system drilled into them. His not-noble/not-commoner status even comes back in his role in battle, where he's Class VII's most prominent jack-of-all-trades.
Jusis is by far the most cynical and world-weary member of Class VII, warning his classmates not to blindly trust others and frequently offering viewpoints that run contrary to the rest of the class, such as the viability of Bracers in the Empire, the uglier side of Osborne's reformists' faction or Rean's lack of self-preservation instincts, which the more optimistic Alisa interpreted as selflessness and a heroic streak, but which the more jaded Jusis (rightly) saw as Rean being a martyr looking for a cause. He has a good instinct for Erebonia's complicated politics which Laura, a fellow Kreuzen junior noble, is relatively ignorant about.
Jusis' development comes from coming out of his shell, learning to trust others and allowing the rest of the class' idealism to rub off on him just a little while trying to define his own concept of nobility and finding his place in the world, which unlike Laura, he wasn't quite sure of at the beginning. Unlike, say, Elliot, I kinda feel that by the end of CS2, Jusis is still busy growing.
I didn't get the impression he considered Fiona a mother figure, seeing that he has more than enough memories of his real mom. His sister just likes to act as one because she shares her father's overbearingly coddling nature.
Also, you just described the peak of Elliot's development. From that point on, he becomes kind of one note (if you pardon the pun) while Jusis continues to gently but gradually develop. Heck, Jusis' bonding events in CS2 are fairly varied and reflect his complex position in the situation of the events that take place during the game. Elliot's bonding events are pretty much all the same thing to the point where you eventually start being able to predict how they're gonna go.
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To be honest, I didn't get that impression of jusis at all, but then i almost completely ignored him when it came to bonding points (which I think is the game's fault for making you choose) and perhaps that impacted my ability to care about the character. When I said "not as good of a noble" I meant that Laura is the kind who holds herself with a quiet dignity, whereas Jusis came off as an asshole. Look at how Laura dealt with her dislike of Fie, versus Jusis. Laura recognized she had a problem, but couldn't bring herself to deal with it for a while. Jusis just antagonized Machias till they overcame it (I forget the details, it's been a while since CS1. Also see previous about my complete and total disinterest in both of them).
Jusis' softer side often shows in his bonding events as he frequently counsils Rean on the particulars and trappings of being a noble in high society, tries to cheer him up (in his own slightly tsunderish way) when he's feeling down and plays hide and seek with kids who were wronged by his father's actions. He'll probably always act a little bit prickish to keep up appearances, but it's not particularly hard to see how much of an act that is and he has his own sense of dignity that other characters take note of.
The difference between the Laura-Fie conflict and the Jusis-Machias conflict was that the former WAS completely on Laura; Fie never did anything to antagonize her and Laura merely judged her on her background, which the latter had no control over. Jusis' problem with Machias wasn't due to his background, but due to his overbearing anti-nobility rants. Unlike the former conflict, the latter was very much a both sides-thing. If anything, Laura's behavior was a lot less justified than Jusis', so it's logical it's kept more low-key.
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Jusis is a cool dude and Machias is a dweeb, that's really all that needs to be said.
Also Alisa is love and I will never not find it amusing how many people keep crying over her because of the prologue years later. I get it, I rolled my eyes at that whole ordeal too because anime but you gotta let some things go!
Also Alisa is love and I will never not find it amusing how many people keep crying over her because of the prologue years later. I get it, I rolled my eyes at that whole ordeal too because anime but you gotta let some things go!
The entire point of Class VII was having people from different social backgrounds live and solve problems together. Jusis does a great job of facilitating this by being a noble who isn't a meme (Patrick) or someone who's alreadt chill with commoners (Laura).
He's extremely important to the overall group dynamic.
He's extremely important to the overall group dynamic.
I still get amused by people who unironically say that they're still bugged after all these years by Alisa "not being able to let things go". ;)
finished the demo yesterday, the localisation reads palatable enough, though the character bios are written in an awkward manner. The turbo addition works perfectly which is great, i'll just keep it on by default probably. I just really dislike the performance of the voice acting so far, it sounds for more stilted than CS1 and 2 did to me.
I also finished Ao last week but i still need to collect my thoughts on it, i find it a mixed bag honestly.
I also finished Ao last week but i still need to collect my thoughts on it, i find it a mixed bag honestly.
To be fair, Machias is one belligerent, obnoxious guy and Jusis simply dishes out what he receives. I wouldn't say Laura's tendency to pull away when faced with interpersonal problems is necessarily better just because it's more "quiet". Especially when not only Fie, she also lets her friendship with Monica deteriorates due to her own insecurities.
Also as nobles, they're both beloved by the people of their respective towns.
That's fair. I probably did discount Machias' part in Jusis' attitude towards him. You're right that Laura running away from her problems isn't necessarily the best way to deal with it, but I do that a lot in my life, so the way she dealt with it was possibly more apealing than Jusis' more aggressive tactics. I should replay and do all the bonding links. Sounds like I misssed a lot.
if you start a new game+ you can get unlimited bonding events so you can see them all for all characters
Yeah, I know, and that was one of the things I was gonna spend points on. I think i might hold off. I don't want to do 6 trails games in the 2 months before CS3 (i've already done 3, and working on the 4th.)
While Legram is pretty much filled with Laura-groupies old and young, Jusis' position in Bareahard is a little bit more complex. At the start of CS1, quite a few nobles look down on him and grovel to his face while sniping at him when he's not around. The commoners have a better impression of him, many of them still believe he's kind of a watered down version of Rufus, who they consider the real golden boy, even though they think Jusis is more approachable. Their opinion of him steadily climbs as the games go on.