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Kojima is crunching to meet Death Stranding's release date
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Most of the people outraged weren't going to buy it anyway.
But anyone who finds crunch abhorrent should definitely cancel their pre-orders.
This thread's an exception because of the subject matter being serious, but most general threads about Kojima just turn sour instantly.
Seriously it might be healthier for all involved to ban talk of him here.
He spent a week using this.
I'm don't condemn crunch, sadly it's normal this days but if he is sick, he should take a break.
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Maybe, someday, people will change their minds from thinking "yep, this is normal, everyone does it" to "this shouldn't be normal no matter how many people does it, there should be changes".
That every dev does it doesn't mean it's good and it doesn't mean that there shouldn't be changes. There should, and the first stop to change is to stop normalizing crunch.
That every dev does it doesn't mean it's good and it doesn't mean that there shouldn't be changes. There should, and the first stop to change is to stop normalizing crunch.
Complacent and whataboutism, get a better job.
Nah both are fucking garbage :)
this thread is based on the vaguest of tweets, i dont think there's much to go off of lol
"You're trying really hard in this thread". What a pathetic comment. Get a grip.
I can't speak for the rest of the team, as I don't know what sort of crunch they are or are not in, but from a psychological perspective I'm not surprised Kojima is pushing himself to unhealthy or unrealistic levels.
He likely feels he has a lot to prove with this project, far more so coming off of the horrible ordeal he went through with Konami, where his entire gaming career was in jeapordy and his reputation challenged.
His haters slandered him as someone who consistently takes too long to make games, wastes too much money and all the rest, hence why Konami was supposedly justified in getting rid of him, even when Kojima himself has come out to confirm that simply wasn't and isn't true, that he's not gone more than a few months over development schedule or budget with any of the MGS games. As a result of all these things, he probably feels even more pressured to stay on schedule and deliver something of the quality we've come to expect from him and his team, hence he's pushing himself far too hard.
Ha, I love discussing Kojima, but he seems to get a few people's blood pressure boiling every time he's brought up.
I remember Kojima mentioning that after MGS4 released, some of his staff went to have 6-month holidays. Whether that includes compensation from crunch-time or those people never got holidays in the previous years, who knows.
" Crunching is normal calm down"
No one gonna like, look at the society that is producing this culture and maybe critique it because we can do better and move towards one that doesn't require that.
Because you know it doesn't have to be normal. We could just... do better.
No one gonna like, look at the society that is producing this culture and maybe critique it because we can do better and move towards one that doesn't require that.
Because you know it doesn't have to be normal. We could just... do better.
It's not so bad in this case because reasons.
If you ask me this shit is unsustainable
If you ask me this shit is unsustainable
It's partly fanboyism driving that thought sadly.
This
People arguing that everyone faces crunch are ignoring that it doesn't launch until November AND the fact that any prolonged crunch is not ok. If shit isn't ready, then don't release it yet.
Will concede that we don't have enough info to truly judge, but people dismissing this as normal is not ok.
I make fun of so much stuff I like, fuck I love like 90% of Kojima games, doesn't mean I won't make fun of him. Fans getting defensive over jokes just makes it funnier
This fanboyism is gonna put the people they are fans of in the fucking hospital or worse
People act like "crunch" is some universal number of hours/week and that all projects which have it do so in unhealthy doses. ERA's total ignorance about how this industry works is showing again. Crunch can (and often does) just mean heads are down to complete final needed work, maybe with a bit of overtime. It's not the end of the world, and doesn't mean the same thing across different parts of the industry, and it doesn't mean anyone is being abused. The fixation with "crunch" lately has just been the flavor of the week here.
But its a Kojima game, so its all fine.
Edit: I honestly cant believe people are defending this.
Edit: I honestly cant believe people are defending this.
A wise man once said :
"A delayed game is never good, so crunch away"
See the images in tweets above. That shit shouldn't be normal. Looks like he (and most likely his team) have been crunching for a while now.
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So even in the pro-union, "enlightened" Era, gamers are forever trash.
Also I like the "That's how things are" excuse. As if that fucking means something. By that logic, several on Era wouldn't be abhorred by murder if the murderer was someone they liked.
Also I like the "That's how things are" excuse. As if that fucking means something. By that logic, several on Era wouldn't be abhorred by murder if the murderer was someone they liked.
As someone who is both 2/3 the way through a (hopefully) 3 month crunch period and a fan of Kojima's games, I want people to understand that crunch is fucking awful and should be de-normalized, regardless of who's at the helm.
Hopefully no one here has actually gone from being against crunch, to suddenly pro crunch, because Kojima. That would be the most spineless thing ever.
Developers in large companies need to unionize, if this problem is ever going to be solved, all we can do is keep anti-crunch discourse going.
Hopefully no one here has actually gone from being against crunch, to suddenly pro crunch, because Kojima. That would be the most spineless thing ever.
Developers in large companies need to unionize, if this problem is ever going to be solved, all we can do is keep anti-crunch discourse going.
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Hey, dozens of millions of americans are okay with rape and pedophilia because their champion did it, crunch is pretty mild in comparison!
crunch time just refers to a specific instance of timefall, i see i see
Literally anyone elses does crunch: "This is awful. Companies should do better to make sure this doesn't happen."
Kojima does it: "Ah well, that's just how things are. Every studio does it."
Kojima does it: "Ah well, that's just how things are. Every studio does it."
At least he should have some modesty, he's asking his employees to sacrifice their rest and personal lives for months.
wouldn't they have a different date than the actual release date? like a gold master date?
You have any information to share about what's happening at Kojima Production ?