Konami announces the TurboGrafx-16 Mini (UP: list of games revealed - see threadmark)

Regiruler

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Of the feasible games that could be on this, I really want Blazing Lazers and Bonk’s Revenge. And Air Zonk. Pretty sure that’ll be on there.

It’s too bad Ys IV and Rondo of Blood probably aren’t coming, since the never did come out in English, although Rondo could still happen, I duppose. Ys IV is a wonderful game, though. It’s far less cryptic than Ys 1&2
Blazing Lasers sucks. They'd be better off putting Soldier Blade on it.
 

sweetmini

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I wonder if Coryoon will make it, i love this fantastic game.
It's cute, colorful, simple yet enjoyable. (and the music <3 )
 

andymcc

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Alright so the CoreGrafx Mini has a PEGI 18 rating.

While it is provisional, I can't help but wonder what included game (or games) could possibly bump the rating up that high.


Splatterhouse is PEGI 12.

Just ran a search. None of the TG16/PCE games that appeared on Nintendo's Virtual Console got a PEGI rating above 12. That includes Rondo.
Dead of Brain in English. PCE Snatcher? Can’t imagine much else that would get that high of a rating.
 

Celine

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Hudson's shovelware was never helping the library shine either.
Hudson software support (be it by being the publisher or by developing the game in-house) for PCE was good.
Some notable Hudson games for PCE:

Military Madness / Neo Nectaris
Neutopia 1 and 2
Bonk 1, 2, 3
Momotarou Katsugeki (though the game was never released in the west)
Bomberman '93/'94
Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu
Dragon's Curse, The Dynastic Hero (Hudson made the port)
New Adventure Island
Soldier Blade, Super Star Soldier, Final Soldier
Star Parodier
Ys Book 1 & 2, Y3 and Ys 4 (sadly Ys 4 was neve released outside Japan)
Tengay Makyou 1, 2 and Fuun Kabuki Den (unreleased in the west)
Buster Bros
Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes
Dungeon Explorer II
Lords of Thunder
World Heroes 2, Fatal Fury Special (unreleased in the west)
Kabuki Ittou Ryoudan (unreleased in the west)
Sapphire (unreleased in the west)
 
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fiendcode

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Hudson's shovelware was never helping the library shine either.
Hudson is what MADE the PCE shine. One of the best 1st party lineups ever imo.

  • 1941 Counter Attack
  • Adventure Quiz: Capcom World
  • Aero Blasters
  • Air Zonk
  • Aoi Blink
  • Appare! Gateball
  • Bakuchō Yoshimoto Shinkigeki
  • Battle Ace
  • Battle Lode Runner
  • Bikkuriman Daijikai
  • Bikkuriman World
  • Blazing Lazers
  • Blood Gear
  • Bomberman
  • Bomberman '93
  • Bomberman '94
  • Bonk 3: Bonk's Big Adventure
  • Bonk 3: Bonk's Big Adventure (CD)
  • Bonk's Adventure
  • Bonk's Revenge
  • Buster Bros.
  • Chew Man Fu
  • China Warrior
  • Cobra II: Densetsu no Otoko
  • Cobra: Kokuryū-Ō no Densetsu
  • Cotton
  • Cratermaze
  • Doraemon: Nobita no Dorabian Night
  • Doraemon: Nobita no Dorabian Night (CD)
  • Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes
  • Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes II
  • Dragon's Curse
  • Dungeon Explorer
  • Dungeon Explorer II
  • Dynastic Hero, The
  • Fighting Street
  • Final Soldier
  • Fushigi no Umi no Nadia
  • Galaxy Fräulein Yuna
  • Galaxy Fräulein Yuna 2
  • Garō Densetsu 2 (Fatal Fury 2)
  • Garō Densetsu Special (Fatal Fury Special)
  • Gate of Thunder
  • Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire
  • Gulliver Boy
  • Gyuwanburā Jiko Chūshin Ha: Gekitō Sanjūroku Janshi
  • Honō no Dōkyūji: Dodge Danpei
  • Hyakumonogatari: Honto ni Atta Kowai Hanashi
  • Hyper Wars
  • Inoue Mami: Kono Hoshi ni Tatta Hitori no Kimi
  • J.B. Harold: Murder Club
  • J.J. & Jeff
  • Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu
  • Jaseiken Necromancer
  • Kabuki Ittō Ryōdan
  • Keith Courage in Alpha Zones
  • Lords of Thunder
  • Madō King Granzort
  • Maniac Pro Wrestling
  • Might and Magic III: Isles of Terra
  • Military Madness
  • Mitsubachi Gakuen
  • Momotaro Densetsu Gaiden: Dai Ichi Shu
  • Momotarou Densetsu II
  • Momotarou Densetsu Turbo
  • Momotarō Katsugeki
  • Neo Nectaris
  • Neutopia
  • Neutopia II
  • New Adventure Island
  • Ninja Ryūkenden (Ninja Gaiden)
  • No-Ri-Ko
  • Panic Bomber
  • Populous
  • Populous: The Promised Lands
  • Power Eleven
  • Power Golf
  • Power Golf 2
  • Power League '93
  • Power League 4
  • Power League II
  • Power League III
  • Power League V
  • Power Tennis
  • Quiz Caravan Cult Q
  • Quiz Nobunaga no Yabō
  • R-Type
  • Raiden
  • Record of Lodoss War
  • Record of Lodoss War II
  • Riot Zone
  • Ryūkō no Ken (Art of Fighting)
  • Sadakichi Sebun: Hideyoshi no Ougon
  • SD Senyō Aldynes
  • Seiryū Densetsu Monbit
  • Seiya Monogatari
  • Sengoku Mahjong
  • Shanghai
  • Shanghai II
  • SimEarth: The Living Planet
  • Soldier Blade
  • Star Parodier
  • Taiken Soft Shū
  • Timeball
  • Super Air Zonk: Rockabilly Paradise
  • Super Momotaro Dentetsu
  • Super Momotarou Dentetsu II
  • Super Raiden
  • Super Star Soldier
  • Susano-ou Densetsu
  • Tengai Makyō: Fū-un Kabuki Den
  • Tengai Makyō: ZIRIA
  • Tengai Makyō II: Manjimaru
  • Urusei Yatsura: Stay With You
  • Victory Run
  • Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair
  • World Class Baseball
  • World Heroes 2
  • World Sports Competition
  • YouYou Jinsei
  • Ys Book I & II
  • Ys III: Wanderers from Ys
  • Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys
 

Piggychan

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some of those are Super Grafx titles tho, not quite bc on the original pc engine although I hear you can get just the audio playing from them...
 

andymcc

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Hudson is what MADE the PCE shine. One of the best 1st party lineups ever imo.

  • 1941 Counter Attack
  • Adventure Quiz: Capcom World
  • Aero Blasters
  • Air Zonk
  • Aoi Blink
  • Appare! Gateball
  • Bakuchō Yoshimoto Shinkigeki
  • Battle Ace
  • Battle Lode Runner
  • Bikkuriman Daijikai
  • Bikkuriman World
  • Blazing Lazers
  • Blood Gear
  • Bomberman
  • Bomberman '93
  • Bomberman '94
  • Bonk 3: Bonk's Big Adventure
  • Bonk 3: Bonk's Big Adventure (CD)
  • Bonk's Adventure
  • Bonk's Revenge
  • Buster Bros.
  • Chew Man Fu
  • China Warrior
  • Cobra II: Densetsu no Otoko
  • Cobra: Kokuryū-Ō no Densetsu
  • Cotton
  • Cratermaze
  • Doraemon: Nobita no Dorabian Night
  • Doraemon: Nobita no Dorabian Night (CD)
  • Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes
  • Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes II
  • Dragon's Curse
  • Dungeon Explorer
  • Dungeon Explorer II
  • Dynastic Hero, The
  • Fighting Street
  • Final Soldier
  • Fushigi no Umi no Nadia
  • Galaxy Fräulein Yuna
  • Galaxy Fräulein Yuna 2
  • Garō Densetsu 2 (Fatal Fury 2)
  • Garō Densetsu Special (Fatal Fury Special)
  • Gate of Thunder
  • Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire
  • Gulliver Boy
  • Gyuwanburā Jiko Chūshin Ha: Gekitō Sanjūroku Janshi
  • Honō no Dōkyūji: Dodge Danpei
  • Hyakumonogatari: Honto ni Atta Kowai Hanashi
  • Hyper Wars
  • Inoue Mami: Kono Hoshi ni Tatta Hitori no Kimi
  • J.B. Harold: Murder Club
  • J.J. & Jeff
  • Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu
  • Jaseiken Necromancer
  • Kabuki Ittō Ryōdan
  • Keith Courage in Alpha Zones
  • Lords of Thunder
  • Madō King Granzort
  • Maniac Pro Wrestling
  • Might and Magic III: Isles of Terra
  • Military Madness
  • Mitsubachi Gakuen
  • Momotaro Densetsu Gaiden: Dai Ichi Shu
  • Momotarou Densetsu II
  • Momotarou Densetsu Turbo
  • Momotarō Katsugeki
  • Neo Nectaris
  • Neutopia
  • Neutopia II
  • New Adventure Island
  • Ninja Ryūkenden (Ninja Gaiden)
  • No-Ri-Ko
  • Panic Bomber
  • Populous
  • Populous: The Promised Lands
  • Power Eleven
  • Power Golf
  • Power Golf 2
  • Power League '93
  • Power League 4
  • Power League II
  • Power League III
  • Power League V
  • Power Tennis
  • Quiz Caravan Cult Q
  • Quiz Nobunaga no Yabō
  • R-Type
  • Raiden
  • Record of Lodoss War
  • Record of Lodoss War II
  • Riot Zone
  • Ryūkō no Ken (Art of Fighting)
  • Sadakichi Sebun: Hideyoshi no Ougon
  • SD Senyō Aldynes
  • Seiryū Densetsu Monbit
  • Seiya Monogatari
  • Sengoku Mahjong
  • Shanghai
  • Shanghai II
  • SimEarth: The Living Planet
  • Soldier Blade
  • Star Parodier
  • Taiken Soft Shū
  • Timeball
  • Super Air Zonk: Rockabilly Paradise
  • Super Momotaro Dentetsu
  • Super Momotarou Dentetsu II
  • Super Raiden
  • Super Star Soldier
  • Susano-ou Densetsu
  • Tengai Makyō: Fū-un Kabuki Den
  • Tengai Makyō: ZIRIA
  • Tengai Makyō II: Manjimaru
  • Urusei Yatsura: Stay With You
  • Victory Run
  • Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair
  • World Class Baseball
  • World Heroes 2
  • World Sports Competition
  • YouYou Jinsei
  • Ys Book I & II
  • Ys III: Wanderers from Ys
  • Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys
Just incredible. Probably the best first party lineup of that generation.
 

NeoZeedeater

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I would rank Sega higher as a publisher that gen (more variety with all the Western-made stuff in addition to many of the best Japan-made games) but yeah, first-party on PCE was amazing.
 

andymcc

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I would rank Sega higher as a publisher that gen (more variety with all the Western-made stuff in addition to many of the best Japan-made games) but yeah, first-party on PCE was amazing.
They’re about tied honestly. The amount of games they put out is mind-boggling compared to what little Nintendo did for SNES/GB. Sega was split between multiple platforms and arcade while Hudson was STILL a prominent third party developer too.
 

InfiniteKing

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Blazing Lasers sucks. They'd be better off putting Soldier Blade on it.
lol What is this nonsense. Is it cause you don't know the mechanic of getting instant respawns through shooting powerups?

What next..
I respect how good R-Type's mechanics are but 1-2 charge shot bosses have always prevented me from taking it seriously.

Haven't heard of those two titles you mentioned.
Nevermind lol. The thing you're supposed to fear in R-Type is the stages not the bosses, but obviously you seemed to 1CC R-type which is impressive.


TG-16 or PC-Engine is one of the most impressive shmup consoles around. I love all the soldier games and blazing lasers and 1943 kai and even it's port of Raiden. I'll take Raiden these days over R-Type tbh. Vertical > sidescroller.
 

fiendcode

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Just incredible. Probably the best first party lineup of that generation.
NEC was honestly not bad either between their two JP divisions.

NEC Avenue / Interchannel
  • After Burner II
  • Ane-san
  • Asuka 120% Maxima
  • Basted
  • Bonanza Brothers
  • CAL II
  • CAL III
  • Chiki Chiki Boys (Mega Twins)
  • Dai Makaimura (Ghouls 'N Ghosts)
  • Daisenpū (Twin Hawk)
  • Daisenpū Custom
  • Darius Alpha
  • Darius Plus
  • DE.JA
  • Download
  • Download 2
  • Dragon Knight & Graffiti
  • Dragon Knight II
  • Dragon Knight III
  • Dōkyūsei
  • F-1 Dream
  • Fantasy Zone
  • Forgotten Worlds
  • Gain Ground SX
  • Helfire S
  • Horror Story
  • Jūōki (Altered Beast)
  • Jūōki (CD)
  • Madō Monogatari I
  • Mahjong on the Beach
  • Might & Magic
  • Monster Maker: Yami no Ryūkishi
  • Morita Shogi PC
  • Operation Wolf
  • OutRun
  • Puyo Puyo CD
  • Puyo Puyo CD Tsuu
  • Quiz Avenue
  • Quiz Avenue 3
  • Quiz Avenue II
  • Rainbow Islands
  • Renny Blaster
  • ROM² Karaoke Vol. 1
  • ROM² Karaoke Vol. 2
  • ROM² Karaoke Vol. 3
  • ROM² Karaoke Vol. 4
  • ROM² Karaoke Vol. 5
  • Side Arms
  • Side Arms Special
  • Son Son II
  • Sotsugyō: Graduation
  • Space Fantasy Zone (unreleased)
  • Space Harrier
  • Space Invaders: The Original Game
  • Splash Lake
  • Strider Hiryū (Strider)
  • Super Darius
  • Super Darius II
  • Tanjō: Debut
  • Tenchi Muyō! Ryōōki
  • Tenchi o Kurau (Dynasty Wars)
  • Thunder Blade
NEC Home Electronics
  • 21 Emon: Mezase! Hotel Ō
  • Artist Tool
  • Bazar dé Gozarre no Game de Gozāru
  • Brandish
  • Dead of the Brain 1 & 2
  • Emerald Dragon
  • Genji Tsūshin Amedama
  • Go! Go! Birdie Chance
  • Götzendiener
  • Hataraku Shōjo: Tekipaki Working Love
  • J. League Tremendous Soccer '94
  • Janshin Densetsu: Quest of Jongmaster
  • Legend of Xanadu
  • Linda³
  • Louga II: The Ends of Shangrila
  • Mad Stalker: Full Metal Force
  • Magicoal
  • Megami Paradise
  • MetamorJupiter
  • Moonlight Lady
  • Nemurenu Yoru Chiisaina Ohanashi
  • Popful Mail
  • Princess Maker 1
  • Princess Maker 2
  • Private Eyedol
  • Sazan Eyes: Sanjiyan Henjō
  • Solid Force
  • Street Fighter II′ Champion Edition
  • Wrestle Angels: Double Impact
  • Xak III: The Eternal Recurrence
 

ReyVGM

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They are shooters. They are horizontal. There are powerups. There are aliens.

They are 100% comparable.

Gradius 2 is better.
 

fiendcode

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Speaking of Gradius, since they're now a retroactive 1st party:

Konami
  • Akumajō Dracula X: Chi no Rondo (Castlevania: Rondo of Blood)
  • Detana!! Twinbee (Bells & Whistles)
  • Gradius (Nemesis)
  • Gradius II: Gofer no Yabou (Vic Viper)
  • Martial Champion
  • Parodius Da! (Parodius: Non-Sense Fantasy)
  • Salamander (LifeForce)
  • Snatcher CD-ROMantic
  • Snatcher CD-ROMantic: Pilot Disk
  • Tokimeki Memorial
 

Piggychan

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Gradius on the pc engine has 4 hidden bonus stages.



Also I wonder if Konami would split the hidden caravan shooters from Tokimeki Memorial and add them individually; Twin Bee Returns and Force Gear.
 
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andymcc

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They are shooters. They are horizontal. There are powerups. There are aliens.

They are 100% comparable.

Gradius 2 is better.
if you're going to compare the incredibly broad spectrum of PCE shooters, Gate of Thunder destroys Gradius II. But even those two are even drastically different.

Also I wonder if Konami would split the hidden caravan shooters from Tokimeki Memorial and add them individually; Twin Bee Returns and Force Gear.
Get M2 on the project and we may get a full game out of Force Gear lmao
 

Piggychan

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Please, Konami...do this.

All I want is a Walkthrough that shows how to unlock Force Gear from Tokimeki Memorial.
I've tried to play through, but I only got a couple weeks into the game before I figured it would take too much effort/time to get...
EDIT

just about 2+hrs worth of play and sticking with the computer club and not leaving it. Once you get to the 3rd year culture festival it will appear there, and all this should be doable without the need to date any of the girls although you still might need to do birthdays, valentines day and Christmas stuff etc..
 
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EDIT

just about 2+hrs worth of play and sticking with the computer club and not leaving it. Once you get to the 3rd year culture festival it will appear there, and all this should be doable without the need to date any of the girls although you still might need to do birthdays, valentines day and Christmas stuff etc..
Well, that’s much more straightforward than I expected!
I believe this indirectly makes Force Gear via Tokimeki Memorial the cheapest shmup on the PC Engine, albeit a very short one with a bit of time investment to unlock it.

How many CD games do we expect to see on this system?
Especially considering they could easily release a stand alone CD-mini unit in Japan with a full line up og great games.
 
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Celine

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Hard to tell.
We don’t even know how mani games there will be in the pce mini.

Imo ys 1&2, rondo of blood, gradius II, star parodier, gates of thunder and winds of thunder are ‘must’.
Maybe even Dynastic Hero and Monster Laur if there aren’t licensing issues.
 
Hard to tell.
We don’t even know how mani games there will be in the pce mini.

Imo ys 1&2, rondo of blood, gradius II, star parodier, gates of thunder and winds of thunder are ‘must’.
Maybe even Dynastic Hero and Monster Laur if there aren’t licensing issues.
I definitely agree on the inclusion of those "musts" - including Dynastic Hero. Monster Lair is alright, but solid enough for inclusion.
So far, it seems like it will be very similar to the offerings on the Virtual Console.

But, oh man, would I love to have the inclusion of rare CD games, such as Ys III, Dungeon Explorer II, and Dragon Slayer - although Dragon Slayer probably hasn't aged quite as well as the other games.
 

ReyVGM

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Please, Konami...do this.

All I want is a Walkthrough that shows how to unlock Force Gear from Tokimeki Memorial.
I've tried to play through, but I only got a couple weeks into the game before I figured it would take too much effort/time to get...
If you're playing on emulators I have a save with both games unlocked.
 

MrCunningham

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I don't really have much say on a wish list, just because I never really put much time into the console, and I really wouldn't know what the cream of the crop vs "just good" games are.



My only real "want" is an english port of the PCE-CDROM version of Snatcher.

I loved Snatcher on the Sega CD since I bought it back in the 90's. But that version has a longer third act, and alternate English dialog that doesn't match up with the Japanese dialog. Kojima had nothing to do with the Sega CD port of Snatcher, so I look at that version as an extended assembly cut.

While the PCE CD-ROMantic version is the one that Kojima worked on personally. It has the third act that the PC88 and MSX versions didn't have. This is the definitive version of Hideo Kojima's Snatcher. If Konami wants to make this collection special, include Snatcher with an english translation.

They don't have to re-dub the original Japanese dialog recordings, the system is using some kind of ARM solution emulation, surely they can use that hardware to add some subtitles for the spoken Japanese dialog and translate the text to english. Hire a translator to do a straight Japanese to English translation... though a few minor censorship edits may need to happen. Just like those fan translations of Policenauts. I think this game could be a huge draw, given the popularity of Kojima's name.

Also, Rondo of Blood has to be there. The english translation is done for this one.
 

MrCunningham

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Rondo of Blood probably aren’t coming, since the never did come out in English
There is an official english translation of Rondo of Blood that was included with Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles on the PSP. Plus, I am pretty sure the english port was also released on the Wii Virtual console as well.
 

MrCunningham

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It didn't, it was the original Japanese version.
No Wii VC was the original untranslated Rondo of Blood
Both posted at the same time. But thanks for the clarification. I remeber the game being released on the VC in the western markets, and I always assumed it was the translated one from the PSP game. But in anycase, they do have all the english audio from the PSP game that they could use.

EDIT: I also forgot about Castlevania: Requiem on the PS4, which includes a version of Rondo that has an english translation as well.
 
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moomoo14

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There is an official english translation of Rondo of Blood that was included with Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles on the PSP. Plus, I am pretty sure the english port was also released on the Wii Virtual console as well.
I didn’t know the VC version was in English. Interesting! I played it in Japanese on my Turbo Duo, so it definitely doesn’t need the translation, but still, that raises its chances. It helps that it’s probably the most in-demand game on the system.
 

MrCunningham

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I didn’t know the VC version was in English. Interesting! I played it in Japanese on my Turbo Duo, so it definitely doesn’t need the translation, but still, that raises its chances. It helps that it’s probably the most in-demand game on the system.
Opps, I was wrong about the VC version being in english. Look at the previous couple posts that corrected me. My mistake. But the game has been released in english twice. There is a PSP version with an english translation as well as a more recent PS4 port, which also has english text. But yeah, the game itself doesn't really need much of a translation.