Konami announces the TurboGrafx-16 Mini (UP: list of games revealed - see threadmark)

Virtua Sanus · Jun 13, 2019

So what could be an excellent 'lost' game to add to this device? Like Star Fox 2 and Darius/Tetris MD?

My biggest hope is the PSP English version of Rondo of Blood, but I am sure plenty of people here have some good ideas too.

retroman said:
Considering Konami games are installed on the Mega Drive Mini, it would be quite fitting to see some Sega games appearing on the PC Engine Mini.

According to Segaretro.org, these are all the Sega games that have appeared on the PC Engine:

After Burner II
Altered Beast
Bonanza Bros (CD)
Columns
Fantasy Zone
Golden Axe (CD)
OutRun
Power Drift
Shinobi
Space Harrier
Thunder Blade

Anybody want to comment on the quality of those ports?

I know Golden Axe is supposed to be horrid, but I haven't played that version myself. From the above list I've only played the PC Engine version of Shinobi, and while some levels are missing, it's a pretty solid conversion of the arcade game.

Most of these games are fine but are not especially exciting as you can get better versions pretty easily elsewhere now. Golden Axe is terrible, but it has tons of new art and cutscenes which is kind of interesting I guess.

There is also Gain Ground which I quite enjoy. Not the best version of the game but it is still an excellent strategy game, especially with friends. I am bummed it missed out on being in the Genesis Mini, so I would love to see it here at the very least.

Other than that though? PC Engine is kind of lacking in the racing department so I would love to see something like OutRun make it in.

daninthemix · Jun 13, 2019

Why is doing this easier than an MGS or Silent Hill collection? And why will this make them more money than either of those things?

retroman · Jun 13, 2019

Virtua Sanus said:
Most of these games are fine but are not especially exciting as you can get better versions pretty easily elsewhere now. Golden Axe is terrible, but it has tons of new art and cutscenes which is kind of interesting I guess.

There is also Gain Ground which I quite enjoy. Not the best version of the game but it is still an excellent strategy game, especially with friends. I am bummed it missed out on being in the Genesis Mini, so I would love to see it here at the very least.

Other than that though? PC Engine is kind of lacking in the racing department so I would love to see something like OutRun make it in.

Thanks, I didn't even know about Gain Ground! Sounds like an interesting version of the game.

https://www.heypoorplayer.com/2016/12/12/gain-ground-sx/

This SX version is actually more of a sequel to the original game than a straight conversion of the arcade or Mega Drive versions. Gain Ground contains more stages that are now also larger in size, remastered CD music and a host of other new features that make it an even more compelling experience than it already was.

Combichristoffersen · Jun 13, 2019

daninthemix said:
Why is doing this easier than an MGS or Silent Hill collection? And why will this make them more money than either of those things?

Do you remember how the last SH collection turned out? :/

BladeoftheImmortal · Jun 13, 2019

Nice. Wish the card slot actually worked

Piggychan · Jun 13, 2019

Virtua Sanus said:
Other than that though? PC Engine is kind of lacking in the racing department so I would love to see something like OutRun make it in.

I've always wanted more of those "3D" style racing games on pc engine. Somehow I've never been that impressed with the way NEC Avenue handled Outrun especially seeing what they did with Afterburner.

Final Lap Twin is great and so is S.C.I. which I think is my favourite 3D racing game for the system.

Victory Run is pretty decent and I wondered why Hudson Soft didn't make a sequel to this.

Not fond of the overhead racing games because I find them difficult to control but maybe F1 Circus 92 will be there....

Fuzzy · Jun 13, 2019

I'll buy my cousin a PCE mini if it means he'll finally give me his PCE and games. 😛

BojTrek · Jun 13, 2019

I was in college in 1988-1990 and I owned the system and almost every game in the US. I also bought the CD attachment and remember showing as many people as possible the Ys opening cinematic.

My roommate and I worked a scam with Toys R Us and were able to buy every game. The scam was really original for that time.

Turbografx 16 is probably my top one/two systems of all-time.

I hope the game library increases... I also hope that the specs and emulation are top notch.

- Military Madness
- Blazing Lazers
- JJ and Jeff
- Devils Crush
- Super Star Soldier
- World Class Baseball

Cthulhu_Steev · Jun 13, 2019

Wonder if it will get the excellent New Zealand Story and Mr Heli conversions

jay · Jun 13, 2019

I didn't expect this but am very happy. This was probably the console I thought I would have to buy a framemeister or OSSC for. With Genesis, SNES, and NES already covered, now we wait for a Saturn mini. Hopefully that upcoming emulation box doesn't suck mega badly.

Piggychan · Jun 13, 2019

Cthulhu_Steev said:
Wonder if it will get the excellent New Zealand Story and Mr Heli conversions

Mr heli is fantastic... New Zealand .... not so much personally I think it's one of Taito's weakest ports for the pc-e

ThorHammerstein · Jun 13, 2019

BojTrek said:
I was in college in 1988-1990 and I owned the system and almost every game in the US. I also bought the CD attachment and remember showing as many people as possible the Ys opening cinematic.

My roommate and I worked a scam with Toys R Us and were able to buy every game. The scam was really original for that time.

Turbografx 16 is probably my top one/two systems of all-time.

I hope the game library increases... I also hope that the specs and emulation are top notch.

- Military Madness
- Blazing Lazers
- JJ and Jeff
- Devils Crush
- Super Star Soldier
- World Class Baseball

My curiosity has been piqued. How did this scam of sorts play out to acquire every TG16 game?

House_Of_Lightning · Jun 13, 2019

BojTrek said:
I was in college in 1988-1990 and I owned the system and almost every game in the US. I also bought the CD attachment and remember showing as many people as possible the Ys opening cinematic.

My roommate and I worked a scam with Toys R Us and were able to buy every game. The scam was really original for that time.

Turbografx 16 is probably my top one/two systems of all-time.

I hope the game library increases... I also hope that the specs and emulation are top notch.

- Military Madness
- Blazing Lazers
- JJ and Jeff
- Devils Crush
- Super Star Soldier
- World Class Baseball

I remember a kid moving into town (I lived deep in the southern boonies) from the market that had the TG16 (NY, LA, etc IIRC). His family was very well off as his dad was a geologist/surveyor/something to do with natural gas excavation. Anyway, point being, since he was from significantly larger cities and his family had the means to do so, when we met and he invited his new school friends over to his house we noticed that he had two game consoles that none of us had really never heard of.

Turbografx and a Neo Geo.

Only game I remember him having on the Turbografx was one of the Crush games.

BojTrek · Jun 13, 2019

ThorHammerstein said:
My curiosity has been piqued. How did this scam of sorts play out to acquire every TG16 game?

I am not proud of it... I have nightmares maybe 1-2 times a year...

But we bought a game... took out the CD case with hu-card and instructions... placed an empty CD case with 4-5 pennies and some paper... and maybe a note all taped inside the CD case. Went to a PC store with a shrink wrap machine... wrapped the mint box and CD case with pennies...

In Illinois there were 4 Toys R Us all within an hour of school. We'd visit one and "I got this game for my birthday and wanted a different one"

They would either give us Geoffrey Bucks (Toys R Us) cash to use in store or told us to go get the other game ticket.

Rinse and repeat for over a year... we'd buy one or two more and return 1-3 games at a time... at one point we'd have 2-3 people returning games.

One day, I walked and the person was wearing a 'Shrink Saver' button. I used the birthday line and she starts opening the game wrap. I said you know what, I have the receipt in the car... and dashed... they finally figured out the scam and opened all games and would only even exchange for the same game.

Stupid... immature... no money... so 4 of us became thieves! But had almost ever single game on Turbografx 16... yes, I was a dirtbag!

Meatwad · Jun 13, 2019

jay said:
now we wait for a Saturn mini

A Saturn Mini is impractical for a number of reasons and Sega already said it'll be 10 years before they could make one

Meatwad · Jun 13, 2019

Just to be clear there will be

No N64 Mini
No Saturn Mini
No Dreamcast Mini
No Playstation 2 Mini
No Gamecube Mini
No Xbox Mini

Basically if you can't comfortably emulate it on a Raspberry Pi it ain't happening

Piggychan · Jun 13, 2019

BojTrek said:
Stupid... immature... no money... so 4 of us became thieves! But had almost ever single game on Turbografx 16... yes, I was a dirtbag!

two of these must be; Magical Chase and Dungeons & Dragons Order of the Griffon!!!!!!

Deleted member 34949 · Jun 13, 2019

Virtua Sanus said:
So what could be an excellent 'lost' game to add to this device? Like Star Fox 2 and Darius/Tetris MD?

I very, very much doubt that there's a complete working build of the game out there, but I would absolutely lose my shit if Space Fantasy Zone popped up.

jay · Jun 13, 2019

Meatwad said:
A Saturn Mini is impractical for a number of reasons and Sega already said it'll be 10 years before they could make one

I don't think anyone actually expects a Saturn mini.

Piggychan · Jun 13, 2019

Just gonna drop a few for now

Nexzr (1992) CD-Rom

Image Fight II (1992) - CD-Rom

Cho Aniki (1992) CD-Rom

retroman · Jun 13, 2019

Meatwad said:
Just to be clear there will be

No N64 Mini
No Saturn Mini
No Dreamcast Mini
No Playstation 2 Mini
No Gamecube Mini
No Xbox Mini

Basically if you can't comfortably emulate it on a Raspberry Pi it ain't happening

The system I'd love to see most, a Vectrex Mini, also definitely won't be happening.

It's such an interesting console thanks to its remarkable vector graphics, but creating a replica would surely be a costly endeavour. Also, the amount of people interested in such a device can probably be counted on one hand...

Meatwad · Jun 13, 2019

retroman said:
The system I'd love to see most, a Vectrex Mini, also definitely won't be happening.

It's such an interesting console thanks to its remarkable vector graphics, but creating a replica would surely be a costly endeavour. Also, the amount of people interested in such a device can probably be counted on one hand...

Yeah shame they're so expensive on the used market

chowyunfatt · Jun 13, 2019

Meatwad said:
Just to be clear there will be

No N64 Mini
No Saturn Mini
No Dreamcast Mini
No Playstation 2 Mini
No Gamecube Mini
No Xbox Mini

Basically if you can't comfortably emulate it on a Raspberry Pi it ain't happening

I reckon there might be in a year or two, the odroid n2 emulates a couple of those systems pretty well and that's not that expensive.
Things only advance so i reckon a n64 mini is doable in a year or so, possibly. Dreamcast and on maybe 5 years? if people still want minis then.

PancakeFlip · Jun 13, 2019

Toybasher said:
No Rondo of Blood?

Yeah its japan exclusive, not sure why people aren't pissed.

retroman · Jun 13, 2019

Meatwad said:
Yeah shame they're so expensive on the used market

I used to have one with quite a large game collection and even the 3D glasses, but I needed money when I moved to a new apartment and ultimately sold everything. I miss that console ;_;

ffvorax · Jun 13, 2019

Never heard of New Adventure Island , but looks like a clone of Wonder Boy!?! :O

Meatwad · Jun 13, 2019

chowyunfatt said:
I reckon there might be in a year or two, the odroid n2 emulates a couple of those systems pretty well and that's not that expensive.
Things only advance so i reckon a n64 mini is doable in a year or so, possibly. Dreamcast and on maybe 5 years? if people still want minis then.

Yeah technology will inevitably catch up to where these systems can be done as cheaply as the systems we're seeing now, it'll just be a matter of whether or not there's any corporate will at that point

Virtua Sanus · Jun 13, 2019

Seven Force said:
I very, very much doubt that there's a complete working build of the game out there, but I would absolutely lose my shit if Space Fantasy Zone popped up.

Man, I never even thought of that. It would absolutely turn heads to see something like that show up!

If M2 is behind this (which I think is likely) they are EXACTLY the kind of crazy people that would be willing to complete that game I bet.

Shion · Jun 13, 2019

ffvorax said:
Never heard of New Adventure Island , but looks like a clone of Wonder Boy!?! :O

Yeah, that's what the Adventure Island series is.

New Adventure Island feels like a remake of Adventure Island 1 (which was Hudson's version of Wonder Boy 1).

Tizoc · Jun 13, 2019

ffvorax said:
Never heard of New Adventure Island , but looks like a clone of Wonder Boy!?! :O

*@ing Prof. Krejlooc , @ing Prof. Krejlooc *

Piggychan · Jun 13, 2019

ffvorax said:
Never heard of New Adventure Island , but looks like a clone of Wonder Boy!?! :O

Based on this fellow Takahashi Meijin and former exec of Hudson Soft

takahashi-meijin-62c7c217-6819-4cf8-96fb-a06200bbde9-resize-750.jpg

Strat · Jun 13, 2019

Toilet Kids! Toilet Kids!

Deleted member 3017 · Jun 13, 2019

PancakeFlip said:
Yeah its japan exclusive, not sure why people aren't pissed.

This isn't confirmed. In fact, Rondo is shown in the background of the NA trailer.

Deleted member 9317 · Jun 13, 2019

Never owned this bad boy. Hmmm...

Setzer · Jun 13, 2019

PCE/TG16 is one of my favorite consoles of all-time but not sure how much I'd use this mini version since I already have a modded TG Express. Still, I'll probably get one anyways.

leehom · Jun 13, 2019

BojTrek said:
I am not proud of it... I have nightmares maybe 1-2 times a year...

But we bought a game... took out the CD case with hu-card and instructions... placed an empty CD case with 4-5 pennies and some paper... and maybe a note all taped inside the CD case. Went to a PC store with a shrink wrap machine... wrapped the mint box and CD case with pennies...

Wouldn't say you were the first to do this. I know some people who did this back in those times with Super Nintendo games. Took some odd years before retailers caught on.

Initially, I thought you were going to talk about the trash bag trick employees used at TRU.

Deleted member 3017 · Jun 13, 2019

leehom said:
Wouldn't say you were the first to do this. I know some people who did this back in those times in a different state. Took some odd years before retailers caught on.

You could say they did this before you because they were doing this with Super Nintendo games.

TG16 launched two years earlier than the SNES

Setzer · Jun 13, 2019

BojTrek said:
I am not proud of it... I have nightmares maybe 1-2 times a year...

But we bought a game... took out the CD case with hu-card and instructions... placed an empty CD case with 4-5 pennies and some paper... and maybe a note all taped inside the CD case. Went to a PC store with a shrink wrap machine... wrapped the mint box and CD case with pennies...

In Illinois there were 4 Toys R Us all within an hour of school. We'd visit one and "I got this game for my birthday and wanted a different one"

They would either give us Geoffrey Bucks (Toys R Us) cash to use in store or told us to go get the other game ticket.

Rinse and repeat for over a year... we'd buy one or two more and return 1-3 games at a time... at one point we'd have 2-3 people returning games.

One day, I walked and the person was wearing a 'Shrink Saver' button. I used the birthday line and she starts opening the game wrap. I said you know what, I have the receipt in the car... and dashed... they finally figured out the scam and opened all games and would only even exchange for the same game.

Stupid... immature... no money... so 4 of us became thieves! But had almost ever single game on Turbografx 16... yes, I was a dirtbag!

I didn't get this creative when I was a teenager but I did something similar.

Games were expensive....$50-60+ for SNES or TG16 games and not having much money and parents who hated video games because they were "works of the devil" means I had to figure out ways to get new games I wanted for free. So what my buddy and I did was play the game, beat it and then carefully damage the connectors on the cart/hu card so that when we took them back to the store(some places would actually test them) they would exchange the game for the same one but give us a new shrink-wrapped game. We then would take said new game to another store where we would give the story about how we got it as a birthday gift and already had it or wanted something else and we would be allowed to exchange it for a different game.

Of course looking back on this now it was totally stupid and I regret doing it but I was teenager and did alot of stupid shit.

KuwabaraTheMan · Jun 13, 2019

daninthemix said:
Why is doing this easier than an MGS or Silent Hill collection? And why will this make them more money than either of those things?

This system outsold the Genesis in Japan. It's way more popular than Silent Hill.

HustleBun · Jun 13, 2019

I totally understand the outrage that some of you have but they'd be insane to leave Bonk and Castlevania out of the TG16 mini in the US. Once again, I'm assuming they will be included.

Am I just being naive?

andymcc · Jun 13, 2019

Sketch said:
I totally understand the outrage that some of you have but they'd be insane to leave Bonk and Castlevania out of the TG16 mini in the US. Once again, I'm assuming they will be included.

Am I just being naive?

They'll be there.

KuwabaraTheMan said:
This system outsold the Genesis in Japan. It's way more popular than Silent Hill.

People lack historical context.

Don't understand why a dude with a Landstalker avatar would even be mad over this decision.

DarthButcher · Jun 13, 2019

All I want is a price and release date. This will be mine, oh yes, it will be mine.

Liquidsnake · Jun 13, 2019

What was the helicopter game?

PepsimanVsJoe · Jun 13, 2019

Apparently Konami of Japan is open to suggestions for games to include on the PCE/TG16 mini.

Also a reminder to everyone who is saying that Rondo won't be included.

https://www.konami.com/games/pcemini/us/en/

The TG16 mini's website has the following note:

*Featured games are in English.

Imports are guaranteed.

andymcc · Jun 13, 2019

I guarantee the big one for Japan is going to be Tokimeki Memorial. Also half expect Snatcher for that territory release too.

Timu · Jun 13, 2019

Some of it's features:

"The consoles have a system-level quick save feature, various display modes - including a retro CRT TV look - and support for four other pads if you buy a separate multitap plug-in adaptor."

Piggychan · Jun 13, 2019

Liquidsnake said:
What was the helicopter game?

Mr Heli ?

Thunder Blade ?

Liquidsnake · Jun 13, 2019

Piggychan said:
Mr Heli ?

Thunder Blade ?

Thunder blade!

I used to play that a lot.

Cthulhu_Steev · Jun 13, 2019

Piggychan said:
Mr Heli ?

Also known as Battle Chopper

I had an Amstrad CP6128 that I sold to fund a PC Engine and Mr Heli made it all worth it - that and Chan and Chan farting on a dinosaur.

ThorHammerstein · Jun 13, 2019

BojTrek said:
I am not proud of it... I have nightmares maybe 1-2 times a year...

But we bought a game... took out the CD case with hu-card and instructions... placed an empty CD case with 4-5 pennies and some paper... and maybe a note all taped inside the CD case. Went to a PC store with a shrink wrap machine... wrapped the mint box and CD case with pennies...

In Illinois there were 4 Toys R Us all within an hour of school. We'd visit one and "I got this game for my birthday and wanted a different one"

They would either give us Geoffrey Bucks (Toys R Us) cash to use in store or told us to go get the other game ticket.

Rinse and repeat for over a year... we'd buy one or two more and return 1-3 games at a time... at one point we'd have 2-3 people returning games.

One day, I walked and the person was wearing a 'Shrink Saver' button. I used the birthday line and she starts opening the game wrap. I said you know what, I have the receipt in the car... and dashed... they finally figured out the scam and opened all games and would only even exchange for the same game.

Stupid... immature... no money... so 4 of us became thieves! But had almost ever single game on Turbografx 16... yes, I was a dirtbag!

That was interesting. I'd never heard of someone doing that. Though, my friend tried to get his hands on free games via renting them... until he realized he needed a credit card to rent. Nelsonhaha.gif

PancakeFlip said:
Yeah its japan exclusive, not sure why people aren't pissed.

And things like this are exactly why hacking the system is so popular.
What troubles me is that big K is taking suggestions on the titles... makes me feel like this hasn't been thoroughly planned out and might be more like PSC than SNESc.

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