Wow, Japan getting the ugliest version of a console rather than the US for once.
ok, this is the worst take of E3 so far.
Wow, Japan getting the ugliest version of a console rather than the US for once.
Nintendo actually started a trend of first party (not licensed to external companies) plug-and-play units with decent quality, though.
It's beige for crying out loud.
Not really, I'd say the very first of these units that was like that was the C64 DTV, which came from the people who actually owned the commodore brand at the time, and most importantly, had JERRI ELSWORTH behind the project. To this day, C64 DTVs are even more sought after than some real models of the commodore 64 because they were, essentially, in 2001, for the first time in over a decade, brand new Commodore 64 hardware that was identical in function to the original. To the point where people took apart c64 dtvs, soldered on floppy disk drive connectors, placed them in breadbin cases, and sold them as NEW C64 units.
Compared to, like, the atari flashback, the NES mini is nice, but the c64 DTV is still the gold standard for these kinds of machines, and not even M2's Sega Genesis Mini topples it.
Wow, Japan getting the ugliest version of a console rather than the US for once.
US gets the best looking console, though Europe gets the best looking pad.
I'd be highly surprised if it was included, considering Rondo is a CD based game.
And yet the bottom one is still better looking.do you know how small the JPN PC engine is?
this aint the mini, this is the real console. For comparison:
Possibly the worst take ever to be seen on Resetera, the Japanese PC Engine is an all time classic design, the Turbografx is the NES idea of "gotta make it BIG for the American market!".Wow, Japan getting the ugliest version of a console rather than the US for once.
US gets the best looking console, though Europe gets the best looking pad.
I'd be highly surprised if it was included, considering Rondo is a CD based game.
I'd be highly surprised if it was included, considering Rondo is a CD based game.
that's not why they expanded the PC Engine, actually, it was because of FCC regulations. The original small PC Engine is actually quite a noisy machine in terms of electrical interfearance. With mine, if I put it next to my CRT television, it'll actually warp the picture. In order to bring the system to the west, they had to spread out components and comply with shielding to get it passed. When the Duo itself actually came out in japan, they used the same design principals as the western Turbo Grafx to ensure the system wasn't noisy. My Duo and Duo R, for example, don't exhibit the CRT warping problem, nor does my Super Grafx, which is also a similar design to the Turbo Grafx.Possibly the worst take ever to be seen on Resetera, the Japanese PC Engine is an all time classic design, the Turbografx is the NES idea of "gotta make it BIG for the American market!".
I missed that, thanks for the info.they announced several cd based games at the conference, including Rondo and Ys I & II, but only for the JPN machine.
The PC Engine CD isn't like the Sega CD, it's really not new hardware, just a new medium. The PC Engine basically sees CD games as very large cards, it's not like the sega CD where it has additional co processors and stuff and is thus harder to emulate. The difference between emulating a PC Engine and a PC Engine CD is really not much at all.
Mattel was the first one in both cases.Nintendo actually started a trend of first party (not licensed to external companies) plug-and-play units with decent quality, though. Even the awful PlayStation Classic is miles better than most of the pre-NES Classic mini-consoles. This device from Konami would not exist if Nintendo hadn't been successful with their line of plug-and-play units.
I really can't believe this is getting flak here. I thought the Wii had pretty much fixed the image of the PC Engine as people finally got familiar with it, and it was pretty widely recognized that there's a great library for the system.
Interesting to know, however they could have gone about it a better way than they did. SNES Jr, NES toploader, Master System 2, CDX, Genesis 3 and 1/2 motherboard Mega Drive 2 are all small and pass FCC - Turbografx didn't need to be wider than an NES, nor have a CD drive that mounts onto the back like an unsightly growth. The width would be alright if you could mount the CD add-on in the dead space on the left to bring the unit size back in line with a PCE+SCD or Duo/R.that's not why they expanded the PC Engine, actually, it was because of FCC regulations. The original small PC Engine is actually quite a noisy machine in terms of electrical interfearance. With mine, if I put it next to my CRT television, it'll actually warp the picture. In order to bring the system to the west, they had to spread out components and comply with shielding to get it passed. When the Duo itself actually came out in japan, they used the same design principals as the western Turbo Grafx to ensure the system wasn't noisy. My Duo and Duo R, for example, don't exhibit the CRT warping problem, nor does my Super Grafx, which is also a similar design to the Turbo Grafx.
Mattel was the first one in both cases.
The Atari Flashback units and some other especially early tech ones based on the Commodore 64 and such are honestly quite good for what they are. I would argue the SEGA Genesis units showing up in shops everywhere is what really soured gamers opinions of them. Before then I recall people being pretty happy with stuff like those Namco arcade plug n plays for example.
Nintendo is obviously a big factor here mostly when it comes to quality control, but I am pretty confident most of these would have existed outside of the PlayStation Classic if Nintendo never got involved.
Interesting to know, however they could have gone about it a better way than they did. SNES Jr, NES toploader, Master System 2, CDX, Genesis 3 and 1/2 motherboard Mega Drive 2 are all small and pass FCC - Turbografx didn't need to be wider than an NES, nor have a CD drive that mounts onto the back like an unsightly growth. The width would be alright if you could mount the CD add-on in the dead space on the left to bring the unit size back in line with a PCE+SCD or Duo/R.
If I didn't already have a MiSTer, Rondo of Blood alone would be a great reason to pick one of these up.they announced several cd based games at the conference, including Rondo and Ys I & II, but only for the JPN machine.
The PC Engine CD isn't like the Sega CD, it's really not new hardware, just a new medium. The PC Engine basically sees CD games as very large cards, it's not like the sega CD where it has additional co processors and stuff and is thus harder to emulate. The difference between emulating a PC Engine and a PC Engine CD is really not much at all.
If there is no fake CD-ROM² Interface Unit available later like the Mega CD and 32X ones for the Mega Drive Mini, I'll have to 3D print one myself.
This place is so weird, according to previous "what's your age" polls most people here are way over 30 years old or even around their 40s, but the kind of opinions you often read here are the ones that you usually hear from teenagers or people in their early 20s, like "ewwwwwww games from more than 5 years ago are so dated and ugly!!!!!! They aged so bad!!!" or "[newest hottest entry of decades long popular ip] looks great, it's going to be first ever in the series for me!!!".This forum isn't nearly as appreciative of the legacy of video games as you'd think. Many users here are in their 20's and many of the older users simply have no interest in exploring gaming platforms they didn't experience growing up. I greatly appreciate the small number of posters here that have an interest in this hobby's entire history.
But Nintendo made the whole plug n play more popular, because NES Classic was amazing. It is a new era, like it or not. Even Sony has surrendered to this era (in a bad way lol)No? These plug n play systems have been around and have been popular for like two decades.
Wow, Japan getting the ugliest version of a console rather than the US for once.
US gets the best looking console, though Europe gets the best looking pad.
Well, we can extrapolate from the size of the USB ports:I really wonder how small the PCE mini is. It'd be kind of neat if it was the actual size of a real PCE and could slot into a real briefcase unit.
Hudson got absorbed by KonamiThat's actually cool?
But isn't NEC supposed to be in charge of this?
Fuck, of course Rondo is JP only. Really god damn bummed. How hard is it expected to import this thing?
I must have missed something. Games outside of those 6 US ones have been confirmed?Fuck, of course Rondo is JP only. Really god damn bummed. How hard is it expected to import this thing?
More popular with gamers that care about the games and the platform legacies maybe, but these things have always sold extremely well. There are seriously hundreds of them out there for a reason.But Nintendo made the whole plug n play more popular, because NES Classic was amazing. It is a new era, like it or not. Even Sony has surrendered to this era (in a bad way lol)
What flak? Frankly haven't seen any. (Oh in this thread? Yeah, it's whakk. In general, I haven't seen much on etc.)I really can't believe this is getting flak here. I thought the Wii had pretty much fixed the image of the PC Engine as people finally got familiar with it, and it was pretty widely recognized that there's a great library for the system.
Since the white one is that small, and how small the SNES mini is, I'd love to see the PCE have the footprint of an HUcard. :D But realistically I'm probably going to get the core version.I really wonder how small the PCE mini is. It'd be kind of neat if it was the actual size of a real PCE and could slot into a real briefcase unit.
Without the slot for the card at the back, something just feels weird about it.Well, we can extrapolate from the size of the USB ports:
Let's do some rough pixel calculation...
EDIT: I have 96mm, so roughly the depth of NES Classic. Not the same scale, but small enough, I'd say.
(I brain fart edited my post perhaps as your response went up ;)This thread is full of pages of "vanwilderwhy.gif" and "LOL" and one dude even was going off about how Ghouls N Ghosts on the system is "utter shit."
Ah, you're right, I didn't notice. Maybe some black tape to mimic it could "fix" that.[...]
Without the slot for the card at the back, something just feels weird about it.
This has got to get some Compile shooters on the next JP announcement of titles or it's just gonna be weird. The PCE has so many great shooters. :D
I still play the hell outta that game.Really surprising to not see Blazing Lazers in the initial announcement. That was THE Turbo Grafx game at launch.