Konami just had their most profitable year ever, again.

Arthands

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Again. Wut??? Konami leaving AAA focus industry is what lead to the company workforce free to do other business like Mobage which is multiple times more successful than MGS.

And pachinko is not even that relevant here as literally the number shows, it is the move to mobage and smaller scale games that lead Konami into such success.

Also, prepare to curse literally all gaming companies for their treatment of employees k?

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/amp/2018-10-26-rockstars-broken-work-ethics

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/amp/2018-09-24-telltales-treatment-of-laid-off-staff-a-problem-endemic-in-the-industry

https://kotaku.com/inside-the-culture-of-sexism-at-riot-games-1828165483

https://www.businessinsider.com/blizzard-responds-claims-bullying-racism-former-employee-2019-1/?IR=T

https://amp.theguardian.com/games/2018/jan/15/game-developer-quantic-dream-accused-of-toxic-and-sexist-working-environment

https://kotaku.com/pissed-off-employees-bash-pretty-much-every-major-video-5940672/amp

Ahh. Guess the whole game industry should burn in hell bruh. Dont forget ur special baby. Rockstar too there lol.
Its weird there's no 'fuckrockstar' or 'shitzzard' etc movement at all. Is it because there's no Kojima-san in those team?
 

Hailinel

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Oct 27, 2017
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What do you mean WUT ? Look at the numbers, forget the business statement (made for the shareholders..), look at the numbers! The growth was higher before the change ! Doing AAA games has nothing to do with focusing on Pachinko... it is completely separate and not related. With the way they treat their employees and everything else, they MUST rot in hell !
That you say this while sporting a Rockstar avatar is hilarious.
 

Josephl64

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Oct 25, 2017
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Still excited about "Love Plus Every", and I so desperately want to have a go at it.

Also PowerPro on Switch is something I see myself picking up. the game looks solid.

I'd be interested in the collections, but those aren't physical so I'm skipping.
 

Chaos2Frozen

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Seems that is a free pass to ill-treatment to employees. Then again on the other hand, I swear people were saying they are boycotting Konami, so no reason for Konami to make AAA games if they are going to flop because of the boycott.
That's my observation.

The main reason why some companies get raked over the coal and some don't is heavily dependent on whether they made a good game or not.

Sure there might be the initial outrage and backlash, but the only way the fire keeps burning is if the game sucks.
 

casiopao

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Oct 28, 2017
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That's my observation.

The main reason why some companies get raked over the coal and some don't is heavily dependent on whether they made a good game or not.

Sure there might be the initial outrage and backlash, but the only way the fire keeps burning is if the game sucks.
The sad thing is. Except for AAA product, Konami effort on A or B games, Arcade or even mobage is all absolutely quality. But due to the hate for no AAA games and No Kojima. It have become F Konami since i dont know how long.
 

Lusamine

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Oct 25, 2017
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The sad thing is. Except for AAA product, Konami effort on A or B games, Arcade or even mobage is all absolutely quality. But due to the hate for no AAA games and No Kojima. It have become F Konami since i dont know how long.
Ehhhhh I’m not sure their newer mobile games are quality. Like, I don’t think there was any new art assets when I played LovePlus.
 

Josephl64

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Oct 25, 2017
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I feel like they should definitely be using all of the old asset just because they're already there.

Not sure I'd say that's indicative of anything. As a smartphone game, there'll always have to be new content added, and after a few months then I'd feel more comfortable judging them on that one.
 

DeniroSerafim

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Apr 5, 2018
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Who cares, if they're not offering what you want then it doesn't matter how successful they are. I hate how some people pretend that just because a company is successful, it means all of their actions are justified. If all the stories about them treating their employees like trash are true, I don't see any reason to support Konami further unless some major changes are made, regardles of their financial success.
 

ResidentDuke

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Jan 16, 2019
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Again. Wut??? Konami leaving AAA focus industry is what lead to the company workforce free to do other business like Mobage which is multiple times more successful than MGS.

And pachinko is not even that relevant here as literally the number shows, it is the move to mobage and smaller scale games that lead Konami into such success.

Also, prepare to curse literally all gaming companies for their treatment of employees k?

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/amp/2018-10-26-rockstars-broken-work-ethics

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/amp/2018-09-24-telltales-treatment-of-laid-off-staff-a-problem-endemic-in-the-industry

https://kotaku.com/inside-the-culture-of-sexism-at-riot-games-1828165483

https://www.businessinsider.com/blizzard-responds-claims-bullying-racism-former-employee-2019-1/?IR=T

https://amp.theguardian.com/games/2018/jan/15/game-developer-quantic-dream-accused-of-toxic-and-sexist-working-environment

https://kotaku.com/pissed-off-employees-bash-pretty-much-every-major-video-5940672/amp

Ahh. Guess the whole game industry should burn in hell bruh. Dont forget ur special baby. Rockstar too there lol.
First:
I dont care about rockstar, i just like their games. I used to like Konami games a LOT until they treated their most famous developer like a dog. Im NOT saying that the other companies are better. did i say that ?... I mean we cant talk about how shitty Konami is because other companies do the same ???

Second:
Isnt this thread about Konami and their profitability. Did you read what i wrote about the growth.... Did you understand that the jump in term of growth was much bigger BEFORE ?? And this fact has nothing to do with my opinion about those idiots

If you are happy that Silent Hill was canned, MGSV not finished or like to play Mobage or Pachinko, good for you !
 

Hailinel

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Oct 27, 2017
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I dont get it.... we are speaking about Konami. They arent even close in term of disrespecting their employees. Did Rockstar removed a producer name from a game, did they forbid an developer to get an award he deserve ?....
Bruh, did you you just conveniently blank out the massive RDR2 crunch controversy from last year?

Like, really?

"Boo hoo, Kojima, the man commanding dozens of millions of dollars in production budget for their massive blockbuster, couldn't go to The Game Awards because Konami forced him to stay in Japan and do his job."

Versus:

"Dan Houser is destroying the health, mental well-being, and social lives of his employees because ART."

No one here is saying that Konami doesn't have shit work practices, nor that they don't deserve criticism for those work practices. But to say that Konami should burn in hell while at the same time blithely ignoring that the AAA game developer you choose to represent you in your forum icon has a long history of toxic workplace practices of their own is comical.
 

Wanderer5

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Oct 25, 2017
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Gotta say, I do appreciate that at least Castlevania is getting some recent love that isn't the mobile game or "Erotic Violence" lol. It has a TV show that is enjoyable, got some awesome rep in smash, and two collections, which the anniversary one in particular looking to be quite good (hell Konami even just announced that the JP versions will be available to all in a later patch, so that's nice). Guess it helps that Bloodstained is a thing also through. XD
 

Menx64

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Oct 30, 2017
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First:
I dont care about rockstar, i just like their games. I used to like Konami games a LOT until they treated their most famous developer like a dog. Im NOT saying that the other companies are better. did i say that ?... I mean we cant talk about how shitty Konami is because other companies do the same ???

Second:
Isnt this thread about Konami and their profitability. Did you read what i wrote about the growth.... Did you understand that the jump in term of growth was much bigger BEFORE ?? And this fact has nothing to do with my opinion about those idiots

If you are happy that Silent Hill was canned, MGSV not finished or like to play Mobage or Pachinko, good for you !
If you dont like konami for how they treated an employee (And probably many others), why do you still like Rockstar games when they treat their employees the same or worse?

You should be honest and say: I dont care about their employees, but just Kojima.

Rockstar is known for their brutal long hours, causing depression on their employees, breaking their families, between others, yet you care more about a price or a name credit.
 

djplaeskool

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Oct 26, 2017
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Is that just a gambling joke or do they actually have somthing popular in Vegas?
Konami is one of the largest developers of video-style slot machines in the world right now, alongside companies like Aristocrat, WMS/Scientific Games, Bally's, and IGT,
They actually are one of the few companies developing new types of large-scale gambling systems, pulling some cues from their Arcade roots.
That Fortune Cup horse-racing simulation game you've seen pictures of in these reports over the last couple years has been super-successful and is a highly sought after piece of hardware in casinos.

You'd be hard pressed to walk into a casino anywhere in North America, and most places worldwide, and not see banks of Konami machines.
 
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casiopao

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Oct 28, 2017
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They should just sell their IPs and keep winning money
Lol. I hope some of you guys never ever be head of company lol. Winning money and selling your best asset. Something does not compute here.

First:
I dont care about rockstar, i just like their games. I used to like Konami games a LOT until they treated their most famous developer like a dog. Im NOT saying that the other companies are better. did i say that ?... I mean we cant talk about how shitty Konami is because other companies do the same ???

Second:
Isnt this thread about Konami and their profitability. Did you read what i wrote about the growth.... Did you understand that the jump in term of growth was much bigger BEFORE ?? And this fact has nothing to do with my opinion about those idiots

If you are happy that Silent Hill was canned, MGSV not finished or like to play Mobage or Pachinko, good for you !
Oh please. Stop acting like you actually care about the employees lol. U are literally saying. I like Rockstar game. I dont give a F about their treatment toward their employees as long as i like their game.

Konami sucks balls because they treat Kojima like shit and there is no more AAA game to please my gaming taste bud.

And you probably should read the financial statement more? MGSV is released in 2015. And the year after the shift to more to smaller budget game and mobage, their growth rise by 12+% which more than what MGSV ever did(9%) so no the shift indeed benefit and lead to the growth Konami is having.

And sure. U guys can go enjoy other AAA game there as there is abundant of AAA gaming companies anyway. While some here or dare i say mass audience can enjoy Konami quality mobage and arcade product.
 

ResidentDuke

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Jan 16, 2019
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If you dont like konami for how they treated an employee (And probably many others), why do you still like Rockstar games when they treat their employees the same or worse?

You should be honest and say: I dont care about their employees, but just Kojima.

Rockstar is known for their brutal long hours, causing depression on their employees, breaking their families, between others, yet you care more about a price or a name credit.
Isnt this thread about Konami ?

Nobody forcing them to work long hours, it is how they operate and they can move somewhere else if they dont like the business strategy/way to operate. Its all about choice in life.

Now imagine you write a Novel then your name get removed from it....

i cant believe it.... because i have a Rockstar tag i cant comment on other company..

I like Rockstar, i dont like Konami,they suck ! sue me !
 
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Kain-Nosgoth

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Oct 25, 2017
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with that many profit, they could at least afford to revive old licences with small budget games in the same way as megaman 11

i don't except it, but who knows, with the success of curse of the moond and soon bloodstained, maybe they will be wiling to
 

TheMadTitan

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Oct 27, 2017
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Isnt this thread about Konami ?

Nobody forcing them to work long hours, it is how they operate and they can move somewhere else if they dont like the business strategy/way to operate. Its all about choice in life.

Now imagine you write a Novel then your name get removed from it....

i cant believe it.... because i have a Rockstar tag i cant comment on other company..
I like Rockstar, i dont like Konami,they suck ! sue me !
Just because it's not explicitly in their schedule doesn't mean they aren't forced to do it in order to meet the baseline for retention during performance reviews or not get passed over for promotions.

And as Rockstar is far from the only company that does this, you can't just up and move to avoid bullshit when the bullshit is everywhere.

Hence the logic behind critiquing all of these companies until they all stop, be it Rockstar, Konami, or whatever. So Rockstar is as much of a viable target as anyone else, if not moreso.
 

Seik

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well, RIP, I'll miss the Konami of old years, but clearly this is the most profitable way for them to operate, so I guess we won't see much actual video games from them in the future.
 

Demacabre

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Nov 20, 2017
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Fun Fact: Ironically, Konami's Pachinko machines are the most ethical and regulated pay-to-win games in the video game industry. (and honest with itself)

Fuck their video game division that does fuck all though.
 
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Menx64

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Oct 30, 2017
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Isnt this thread about Konami ?

Nobody forcing them to work long hours, it is how they operate and they can move somewhere else if they dont like the business strategy/way to operate. Its all about choice in life.

Now imagine you write a Novel then your name get removed from it....

i cant believe it.... because i have a Rockstar tag i cant comment on other company..

I like Rockstar, i dont like Konami,they suck ! sue me !

Nobody said anything about your profile. You said you didnt like Konami because of the way they treated Kojima, but that you dont care about how RockStar treats their employees, because you like their games.
That sounds like hypocrisy.
If you dont like Konami, well, good for you.
 

casiopao

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Oct 28, 2017
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Well, RIP, I'll miss the Konami of old years, but clearly this is the most profitable way for them to operate, so I guess we won't see much actual video games from them in the future.
Stop only playing AAA games lol. Maybe u will be able to enjoy some Konami game lol.

Contra Collection hype baby.
 

casiopao

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Oct 28, 2017
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Meh, I have all the Contra/Castlevania games in their OG formats. So the collections aren't too hype for me. I admit I'm a special case though.

Being physical would surely help me to buy them though! :P
Contra is the collection i have been wanting as playing them on switch will be a blast with split joycons lol. I can literally let any of my friend to suffer on contra with me together.... on the go lol.