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Kotaku: Don't Expect The Outer Worlds To Be As Gigantic As Fallout: New Vegas
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I'm perfectly fine with this. The last game that got the world size completely right was Mankind Divided. We need to go back to smaller worlds.
It's definitely not gigantic if you compare it to new open-world games -and even not so new. Kotaku's headline here is a bit disingenuous. I think what they're trying to say is that New Vegas is gigantic compared to The Outer Worlds.
All I care about are good games made cheap enough so that the studio and series don't fucking die when they don't hit whatever absurd breakeven point they targeted.
Please.
Please.
I'm in. Like people said in this thread Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines was based around a small central hub and it was a really great game so it can work. People need to tamper their expectations considering the AA scope. Obsidian always try different thing and whether they are successful or not they are at least fairly interesting to play.
New Vegas had a much smaller map than 3, heck some people called it an expansion of 3 back then but it had many different paths and factions and they were much better fleshed out than 3 (and 4 lol).
New Vegas had a much smaller map than 3, heck some people called it an expansion of 3 back then but it had many different paths and factions and they were much better fleshed out than 3 (and 4 lol).
Sounds absolutely perfect to me. KotOR II's still my favourite game, and I've been wishing RPG devs would at least try going back to that model of 'sorta open world' design, with small, dense areas separated by a travel mechanic like a ship, for years.
From the KotOR, to Mass Effect, to Dragon Age - and everything in-between - the vast majority of my all-time favourite games have used that structure.
Hmm wait, but the game is supposed to set in various maps/planets, right? So I guess, each planet will not be that big then.
If the game is really like KOTOR II, I'll be completing several playthroughs.
I'm also really curious about the size and scope of DLC.
I'm also really curious about the size and scope of DLC.
The thought didn't even cross my mind, but thanks I guess.
Playing Pillars of Eternity Deadfire the world seems huge to me, but they manage and give you the impression very well. Makes me think how awesome Final Fantasy XII Remake could have been without going overboard with detailing unnecessary stuff.
The universe can seem incredibly huge without allowing you to go anywhere you want on a planet (Mass Effect, Final Fantasy XII zones, etc.).
Playing Pillars of Eternity Deadfire the world seems huge to me, but they manage and give you the impression very well. Makes me think how awesome Final Fantasy XII Remake could have been without going overboard with detailing unnecessary stuff.
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A game that is reasonably sized according to its budget. They could not make this game sound any more enticing.
Have you played mass effect? Cause it'll be like that most likely.
Agreed.
Well, of course. So most of the maps will be linear then.
Tbh, New Vegas wasn't that massive either. It's the smallest open world Fallout game.
Don't know how anyone could take this as a negative. As many are already saying, I'd rather have a smaller and dense world than an enormous and vapid one.
Although, I'd love to see the day where development has become streamlined enough allow devs to focus on populating their massive worlds they want to create with an abundance of things to do.
Although, I'd love to see the day where development has become streamlined enough allow devs to focus on populating their massive worlds they want to create with an abundance of things to do.
Totally fine and expected. I wonder what kind of scale it WILL be though. I never player KOTOR II. Anyone can elaborate on how "vast" that game is?
I don't mind at all about the actual of the world, but I hope it feels varied and vast enough to make exploring feel worthwhlie.
I don't mind at all about the actual of the world, but I hope it feels varied and vast enough to make exploring feel worthwhlie.
As an exclusive for the next Xbox. Sorry PS4 bros, Phil's nice now, but that's going to change.
Yeah but wasn't New Vegas made in just a year? So even if the game world is smaller in size I will expect more content in that small area than in New Vegas.
I enjoyed both Witcher 2 and 3 although both were very different types of RPGs. Witcher 2 had great replayability because a chapter would play very differently depending on your choices. The quests were also very well written. Witcher 3 kept the quest strengths and choices mattered, but never quite as much as in that Witcher 2 chapter. I do think The Outer Worlds with a more tight experience also meets a certain zeitgeist that goes along with 'bigger isn't always better'.
Well good for them to tell today because I totally expected this to be AAA.
Ok. I am alright with this.
Ok. I am alright with this.
Yes, this is music to my ears. Hearing "X will be the biggest open world ever made!" only turns me off these days.
That's incredibly disappointing. I know sometimes open world games can seem too large, but I never felt that way with New Vegas and hearing this won't even be as big as that isn't good news for me.
Around 18 months. What they achieved with that game in the limited time and support from Bethesda was a modern marvel that often goes ignored. It's not reasonable to expect them to duplicate that process and still come out with a huge game (especially since most of the people involved with it left the studio or are there still but aren't involved with this game like Sawyer). As it is if it comes out next year it'll be a completely new IP finished in 3 years or possibly less if it's Q2 2019, which is still really impressive by modern standards.
That's okay, bigger isn't always better plus it can help to start small, I wonder if they own the IP themselves or if it's owned by private division.
Playground is working on a open world rpg if im not mistaken question are they working on the Fable ip or not.