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Kotaku: EA Defense Of Star Wars Battlefront II Becomes Most Downvoted Reddit Comment Ever
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Most downvoted comment wow
I was going to get BF2, since reading up on all this stuff i am holding off.
I was going to get BF2, since reading up on all this stuff i am holding off.
I sense a great disturbance in the force...as if millions cried out...and EA didn't fucking listen.
If the size/budgets of game development studios were on a 1-5 scale, something like
(1) Two guys in Mom's basement >> (2) Indie studio >> (3) DoubleA studio >> (4) TripleA studio>> (5) Massive Multi-Studio conglomerates
The problem is that (5) is getting the 'big-boy' licenses like Star Wars/NBA/NFL/FIFA etc.
Nowadays if you want innovative gameplay with innovative ideas and semi-decent production quality, a game that doesn't just use the "Ubisoft open world formula", you need studios in the (2.5)-(3.5) range to develop your product. Any lower than 2.5 and the budget won't be there and any higher than 3.5 and they will want to play it safe, using tried and tested formulas that gamers have come to be tired of.
In addition to the well deserved negative feedback, maybe we should ask ourselves is there a way to convince the license holders to take a chance with smaller scale studios.
(1) Two guys in Mom's basement >> (2) Indie studio >> (3) DoubleA studio >> (4) TripleA studio>> (5) Massive Multi-Studio conglomerates
The problem is that (5) is getting the 'big-boy' licenses like Star Wars/NBA/NFL/FIFA etc.
Nowadays if you want innovative gameplay with innovative ideas and semi-decent production quality, a game that doesn't just use the "Ubisoft open world formula", you need studios in the (2.5)-(3.5) range to develop your product. Any lower than 2.5 and the budget won't be there and any higher than 3.5 and they will want to play it safe, using tried and tested formulas that gamers have come to be tired of.
In addition to the well deserved negative feedback, maybe we should ask ourselves is there a way to convince the license holders to take a chance with smaller scale studios.
Seems like the only thing that can consistently unify internet is its common hate of EA.
Firstly licence holders don't want good games, they want money, furthermore this idea that only mid tiers studio can provide innovative gameplay elements is not true. Plenty of AAA studio provides new and fresh experiences.
Firstly licence holders don't want good games, they want money, furthermore this idea that only mid tiers studio can provide innovative gameplay elements is not true. Plenty of AAA studio provides new and fresh experiences.
Plolygon's this morning as well...
https://www.polygon.com/2017/11/13/16643302/battlefront-2-40-hours-unlock-vader-luke-ea-response
https://www.polygon.com/2017/11/13/16643302/battlefront-2-40-hours-unlock-vader-luke-ea-response
It won't. The game will still sell 10-13 million copies.
the first game sold that in just the first 2 months,
total you might be looking at 18 million
Well, yeah, if it still sells that well, it won't hurt their bottom line. The hope here is that it won't. Over 400k downvotes is a lot. People are noticing, the question is whether enough of them are noticing and whether enough of them care.
I did my part and downvoted it as well. By all acounts, Battlefront II seems to be a great game based on beta impressions and it's disappointing that the developers, community managers, and so on are all going to suffer because of a scummy top level business decision at EA.
But it won't. As long as they have a solid base of whales to stick around and dole out thousands, they don't give a shit if places like ERA or Reddit are up in arms and boycott the game. They will announce more 'changes' to put this behind them and then go on to rake in the cash, regardless.
Good.
Pay-to-win microtransactions in a full-priced multiplayer game should be the line for everyone. Completely indefensible.
Pay-to-win microtransactions in a full-priced multiplayer game should be the line for everyone. Completely indefensible.
My best friend was psyched about BF 2 to the point that I was going to suck it up (despite not liking Star Wars or EA) and jump in to play with him.
Thankfully he learned about this trash and now I don't have to jump in with him.
Another $120 they have to make up via whales. Every dollar counts.
Thankfully he learned about this trash and now I don't have to jump in with him.
Another $120 they have to make up via whales. Every dollar counts.
Agreed. If this was anything other than a Star Wars game I would hope they change after this. But there's no way this game isn't gonna sell a metric fuck ton.
Meh, I played plenty of hours with Vader in Battlefront 2015, I'll just have to learn the new characters now.
They're complicit, and the game will still sell more than it should, don't feel too bad.
Sad thing about all of this is that microtransacciones are not aimed at us, are aimed at the casual players, who will keep buying things regardless of whatever controversy sourrounds the launch of a game. So we're basically fucked. "Voting with our wallets" is not an option either, while I'm not buying this game, other 5 Star Wars hardcore fans will, so it really doesn't matter and it's pretty depressing.
In big part because practically every gaming related subreddit linked to it, so it got much more visibility than any other comment.
They don't mention it was given Reddit Gold 37 times (so far). At $3.99 per hit, that post has been paid nearly $150!
The direction gaming is going is bad in my opinion. I do feel some sympathy for EA because I do think they are basically taking the brunt of the pushback of GaaS for the whole industry currently. But let's be real. We are the minority here. Most people have been happily accepting microtransactions for years. So if they are the majority why wouldn't publishers cater to the audience that will generate revenue for them. These companies aren't working as charities. They report to their shareholders. Unless the precipitously start losing revenue I expect things to only get worse.
