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test_account

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the grab your pitchforks, Pitchford's a pedophile titles and headlines. anyone who reads further will realize it's empty provocation. I think there is a way to report on this without resorting to exaggeration and clickbait.
I understand. I dont think that will do anything to normalize pedophilia though, or how do you mean? But i fully agree regarding the pitchforks thing. Its so easy to just make a claim and make people believe it without taking the time first to check if its true or not.
 

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The bribery thing seems exaggerated at least. I don't see a critic review higher than 90 on metacritic.

Yeah, just this review http://www.egmnow.com/articles/reviews/egm-review-aliens-colonial-marines/

Which is still funny.

The main show offers a 4-player co-op experience that?s a significant step forward from the storytelling in Borderlands?which, in my book, makes it a pretty big event for the genre as a whole. Add to this the significant multiplayer offerings?and their delivery of Marines-versus-Xeno deathmatch and objective-based modes that populate co-op-style missions with player-controlled enemies?and you?re looking at a genuinely impressive outing.

All things considered, Colonial Marines is a consistently solid, occasionally spectacular shooter that does more than enough to honor the Alien name. It was going to be a tough task from the onset, but despite a ton of potential pitfalls for the talented team at Gearbox, they?ve gone a long way toward reminding us that, for folks who love the craft of building great games, the best challenges only seem impossible.

SUMMARY: Like most successful license-based games, Aliens: Colonial Marinesis much more than a loving homage; it serves as one of the most robust story-driven co-op experiences to date. The concept definitely has room to grow, but as maiden voyages go, Colonial Marines is a clear winner.

"occasionally spectacular shooter"

Bribing reviewers reads like fanfiction though. I've just been scouring twitter for verified accounts/other devs weighing in on this. Sometimes when a dam bursts a flood of comments come in. Where there is smoke there can be fire.
 
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Exactly. If it's his own personal USB I don't care if he has videos of himself furiously jerking off 18 year olds. It's none of anyone's business as long as it's legal. His USB can have whatever weird shit he wants on it, work, porn, baking videos, wtf ever. How the fuck is any of it important or relevant to anything? Cam girl and porn sites get millions of views a day... Bunch of hypocrites in this thread lol. Let's see your search history guys and then we can pass judgment to someone's kinks.

The 12 million dollars stolen is bullshit and a real story. Some guys fetishes as long as legal are not. You people are hilarious
 

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Exactly. If it's his own personal USB I don't care if he has videos of himself furiously jerking off 18 year olds. It's none of anyone's business as long as it's legal. His USB can have whatever weird shit he wants on it, work, porn, baking videos, wtf ever. How the fuck is any of it important or relevant to anything? Cam girl and porn sites get millions of views a day... Bunch of hypocrites in this thread lol. Let's see your search history guys and then we can pass judgment to someone's kinks.

The 12 million dollars stolen is bullshit and a real story. Some guys fetishes as long as legal are not. You people are hilarious

Amen.
 

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Exactly. If it's his own personal USB I don't care if he has videos of himself furiously jerking off 18 year olds. It's none of anyone's business as long as it's legal. His USB can have whatever weird shit he wants on it, work, porn, baking videos, wtf ever. How the fuck is any of it important or relevant to anything? Cam girl and porn sites get millions of views a day... Bunch of hypocrites in this thread lol. Let's see your search history guys and then we can pass judgment to someone's kinks.

The 12 million dollars stolen is bullshit and a real story. Some guys fetishes as long as legal are not. You people are hilarious
Yeah, if it's legal it's a non issue. Over the last few years there's been a big push to support sex workers, and make folks realize that it's in fact, real work. Those top camgirls have talent. It's not something anyone can just do. They have to be engaging and creative at times.

Anyway, my point is--no one should shame them or the men and women who consume their content. Period. I subscribed to a few of them over the years and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I think it's better than just taking free shit from tube sites. Reward them for their hard work.

So if it's legal, whatever. Let's focus on the money.
 

HyGogg

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Randy Pitchford can be tough to side with, but this lawyer does not sound credible to me at all. This sounds like a sleazy scumbag trying to get himself out of trouble by extorting the person suing him.

Which doesn't mean none of it is true, but I'm not just going to take his word for it without evidence or someone less personally invested to back him up.
 
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Virdix

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This is messing with my head. Because I see the name, and it's David Eddings who wrote one or my favorite fantasy series growing up.

Seeing as the author is I'm sure, much more famous. I guess he just doesn't have a Twitter.

David Eddings, the author, died in 2009. I'd guess he never had a Twitter but I'm not sure.

As for this other David Eddings, some clarification would be nice.
 

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Ah, right. I skimmed the thread but I hadn't read every post in detail. The tone of the last few posts in the thread keep talking about the USB thing as if it was just an allegation in a lawsuit when it seems pretty clear that Pitchford has admitted to it (in some form, at least) on uh... a magic podcast, of all things.

It's probably something worth updating in the OP

Why would Randy Pitchfords porn preferences be worth an update to the OP?
 

Fularu

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"Wow. Wow. Wow. "

Really?

That's what he goes with while posting a tweet for everyone to see about someone's (legal according to that tweet) sexual fetishes...
You can interpret the "Wow wow wow" as "Wow wow wow he went on a podcast the following day to talk about the drive and the porn"

In either cases, it's extremely poor journalism and more tabloid level
 

Muffin

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That you all dont even find the timing of him telling that story on a podcast even a bit suspicious is weird to me.

If the girl was 18, sure, weird story but not illegal. If. And as long as that was all on the USB stick besides work related things.

Him saying that doesnt automatically absolve the matter. It's still he said vs he said.
 

Fularu

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That you all dont even find the timing of him telling that story on a podcast even a bit suspicious is weird to me.

If the girl was 18, sure, weird story but not illegal. If. And as long as that was all on the USB stick besides work related things.
This has already been discussed adnauseum

Unless the podcast was broadcasted live (it wasn't) then it's safe to say it was recorded days, if not weeks, in advacnce before beeing prepared for release.

And beeing hung up on the podcast timing but not on who is making the accusation and what his current dealings with Gearbox are is prety telling/amusing
 

Muffin

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This has already been discussed adnauseum

Unless the podcast was broadcasted live (it wasn't) then it's safe to say it was recorded days, if not weeks, in advacnce before beeing prepared for release.

And beeing hung up on the podcast timing but not on who is making the accusation and what his current dealings with Gearbox are is prety telling/amusing
It's still not the automatic absolvement people seemingly are treating it as, even if the the timing is purely coincidence.
 

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I may have been unfairly reactionary if the cam girl on the USB drive is actually of legal age but let's not entirely jump to the defense of Randy here. The porn thing is certainly the most obvious thing to grab headlines from but there are still the widespread accusations of company mismanagement, financial oddities and poor workplace behavior here.

Maybe saying "burn in hell" was far too harsh for a weird guy handwaving away squirting as some sort of magic trick (I... cannot believe I just typed that...) but even still, there sure is a lot of smoke in the air after the accusation of monetary misappropriation for there to be no fire and I think we should dial in on that. So basically, I'll happily concede that Randy thankfully (likely) isn't the pedophilic monster that the accusation wants to portray him as. Even still, Randy certainly still is a bizarre guy with a penchant for bold faced lies, poor workplace conduct and now, as being alleged here and seemingly supported by various tweets cropping up by the hour, misappropriating funds for his own personal gain and frankly, that's still pretty damn bad.
 
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Fularu

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What even is there to absolve at this point?

It's unrelated to the meat of the story, which is financial shenanigans. Just pointless to focus on a rumor with little substance.
Even with this I'm having issues. At my work place, individual bonuses are not disclosed so as to neither foster jealousy nor create expectations. They are discretionary and you'Re told to keep your trap shut (I should know I got one last year).

So Randy's bonus not beeing public isn't a shenanigan (especially if it was 2K's decision to give him one)
 

Dog of Bork

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Even with this I'm having issues. At my work place, individual bonuses are not disclosed so as to neither foster jealousy nor create expectations. They are discretionary and you'Re told to keep your trap shut (I should know I got one last year).

So Randy's bonus not beeing public isn't a shenanigan (especially if it was 2K's decision to give him one)
That's also on the mark. These are allegations, which may or may not be true.

I just don't get the focus on the porn at all when it's not even important to the main thrust of the story.
 

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It's still not the automatic absolvement people seemingly are treating it as, even if the the timing is purely coincidence.
I mean if you want suspicious, look no further than the accuser being someone who is currently being sued by Gearbox and whose entire accusation is not only hearsay, but seemingly carefully worded to provide loopholes in case of libel/slander charges.

Feels like a lot of people in here would believe on faith any shitty thing someone accused Pitchford of.
 

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What even is there to absolve at this point?

It's unrelated to the meat of the story, which is financial shenanigans. Just pointless to focus on a rumor with little substance.

At the end of the day, the fraud and embezzlement accusations are spicy but ultimately kind of boring, while the child porn stuff is a massive, massive bomb shell that calls Gearbox's future into doubt.

And, on the other hand, if it's false, then we need to assume that all of it is false.
 

Thorrgal

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This is messing with my head. Because I see the name, and it's David Eddings who wrote one or my favorite fantasy series growing up.

Seeing as the author is I'm sure, much more famous. I guess he just doesn't have a Twitter.

I thought the same ha ha

PS: Belgarad is pretty bad though :P

The bribery thing seems exaggerated at least. I don't see a critic review higher than 90 on metacritic.

Plus an envelope? Who believes that?

This twitter dude is obviously lying because of a personal vendetta.
 

Nerokis

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"Wow. Wow. Wow. "

Really?

That's what he goes with while posting a tweet for everyone to see about someone's (legal according to that tweet) sexual fetishes...

I love Jason. I don't like Randy. But yes, that tweet felt like a reflexive succumbing to the potential sensationalism/scandalousness of seeing someone's porn preferences described openly and in vulgar terms.

A charitable reading of that tweet is that he saw the podcast discussion as a step toward confirming the underage allegations. Or perhaps he was specifically responding to the lack of professionalism. "Wow wow wow" just isn't good framing, though, even accepting that Twitter itself makes good framing more difficult.
 

Kitsunelaine

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I love Jason. I don't like Randy. But yes, that tweet felt like a reflexive succumbing to the potential sensationalism/scandalousness of seeing someone's porn preferences described openly and in vulgar terms.

To me it was over the admission that the drive existed and had some ammount of porn on it. That it wasn't just a dismissal of the whole event. That seems fair enough to go "Wow." over given the allegations.
 
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Yeah. I respect Jason but if you're going to report on something like this, keep it professional. "Wow Wow Wow" seems a little inappropriate.
 

Nerokis

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To me it was over the admission that the drive existed and had some ammount of porn on it. That it wasn't just a dismissal of the whole event. That seems fair enough to go "Wow." over given the allegations.

Yeah, that speaks to the "step toward confirming the underage allegations" thing. But it doesn't actually confirm anything - an allegation having a kernel of truth, not being made up entirely out of nothing, doesn't necessarily take us anywhere. Randy has a USB drive with an odd work stuff:porn ratio on it != watches underage porn.

"Wow wow wow," which I promise not to say again, just zooms in on the most sensationalistic interpretations without grounding. I get the impulse, because yeah this whole situation is bizarre and shady and probably heading somewhere, but Jason doesn't usually strike me as someone to get caught up in tantalizing but unsubstantiated possibilities.
 

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Meh, Jason's not a robot, who really cares if he wrote a tweet with "wow wow wow".
 

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Yeah, that speaks to the "step toward confirming the underage allegations" thing. But it doesn't actually confirm anything - an allegation having a kernel of truth, not being made up entirely out of nothing, doesn't necessarily take us anywhere. Randy has a USB drive with an odd work stuff:porn ratio on it != watches underage porn.

when you take into account the fact that Randy is a notorious liar you might be less inclined to believe his version of events

Meh, Jason's not a robot, who really cares if he wrote a tweet with "wow wow wow".

bingo
 

Nerokis

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Meh, Jason's not a robot, who really cares if he wrote a tweet with "wow wow wow".

I do. Not that I intend any of this as some stinging criticism, or that I don't understand where he was coming from, or that I expect Twitter Jason to be as rigorous as Kotaku Jason, or that this is a big deal either way - as someone who gives Jason's journalistic perspective a lot of weight, though, it struck me as a small but curious slip up.

when you take into account the fact that Randy is a notorious liar you might be less inclined to believe his version of events

I'm actually not inclined to believe his version of events at all. His lack of credibility, though, doesn't translate into credibility for the allegations in the lawsuit.

Nothing that comes out about Randy will surprise me. I'm just looking back on the discussion and thinking it was all a little more confused than it had to be.
 

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I thought the same ha ha

PS: Belgarad is pretty bad though :P



Plus an envelope? Who believes that?

This twitter dude is obviously lying because of a personal vendetta.
I loved the Belgarad when I was growing up. I haven't read it in a long time. But, it can't be all that bad. That and T.A Barron the lost years of Merlin.
 

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I'm actually not inclined to believe his version of events at all. His lack of credibility, though, doesn't translate into credibility for the allegations in the lawsuit.

There are two versions of the story out there, and in one, a compulsive liar admits to details of the other. By admitting some of the basic foundations of the other story and then making a specific denial, the person who is a compulsive liar cedes an incredible ammount of ground. That's pretty "Wow" to me. Not enough to fall one way or the other. But enough to say, "Wow".

I can't believe we're having discourse on saying "Wow". This is dumb.
 

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So she's 18. Who cares?

Randy's a weird dude, but if accurate this isn't child porn. Just a guy with a squirting fetish.
Yeah, I don't get the focus on a dude looking at legal porn.
Wow wow wow

I expect better from Jason.

The quote about it being an 18-year-old is from Pitchford himself. He obviously isn't going to admit to having child porn on a podcast.

It's weird as hell to go on a podcast and talk about how you have barely legal porn on a USB drive with work secrets. The fact that he told that story and there also happens to be a lawsuit saying he has child porn on the USB drive is something that should be a bit worrying.

Jason isn't focusing on the legal porn aspect. He's focusing on the fact that he admitted on a podcast to having barely legal porn on the USB drive. It's very awkward timing and very close to what the lawsuit is claiming.
 

Nerokis

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There are two versions of the story out there, and in one, a compulsive liar admits to details of the other. By admitting some of the basic foundations of the other story and then making a specific denial, the person who is a compulsive liar cedes an incredible ammount of ground. That's pretty "Wow" to me. Not enough to fall one way or the other. But enough to say, "Wow".

I can't believe we're having discourse on saying "Wow". This is dumb.

Trust me, I understand the logic.

And this is more about sensationalistic, unclear framing, and how such framing can confuse discussion, than a particular word. Also, you're being slightly disingenuous here: he used three wows! And even dedicated a period to each of them. That warrants discourse. :P
 

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?????

The CEO of a major gaming company went on a podcast and talked about his porn preferences, then luridly described a camgirl video he watched and saved on a USB drive that also contained company secrets, which he lost at a Medieval Times.

If this was my boss, I'd be mortified. It's worth a lot more than three wows.
 

Kitsunelaine

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?????

The CEO of a major gaming company went on a podcast and talked about his porn preferences, then luridly described a camgirl video he watched and saved on a USB drive that also contained company secrets, which he lost at a Medieval Times.

If this was my boss, I'd be mortified. It's worth a lot more than three wows.

Pretty fuckin' much.