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[Kotaku] Former Gearbox Lawyer Accuses CEO Randy Pitchford Of Taking Secret $12 Million Bonus In Lawsuit Gearbox Calls 'Absurd'

Oct 28, 2017
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I mean, anyone can say pretty much anything in a lawsuit. Could be a cheap shot to destroy his name, we don't really know anything.

Just to be clear, I've never liked Pitchford. Always seemed like an idiot, especially his handling of the Aliens: Colonial Marines situation.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Ohio
If the lawyer was his personal attorney, he could have known because Randy could have confided in him looking for legal advice.

That's my only guess that lets the lawyer potentially off the hook for the knowledge; Eddings or anyone else on the other hand is a different story. But I have no idea if this guy was a personal attorney for Pitchford.
Mandatory reporting of child abuse varies state-by-state and can become a tricky field to navigate when dealing with attorney-client privilege. I’m based in Ohio and have no idea how Texas works.

Edit: disregard. It seems that attorneys in TX do have mandatory reporting requirements and are not excempt due to attorney-client privilege.
 
Jan 7, 2018
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Yeah at least the lawyer might even have had an ethical obligation to keep Pitchford's secrets if he also acted as a personal attorney.

But I do wonder if Eddings is just confirming the bonus story. But that part just seems like Pitchford being Pitchford.
Yeah. The tweet is too ambiguous. I was specifically asking about a scenario where it comes out he was talking about the sexual misconduct.

If it is about the money then that is another issue entirely.
 
Dec 28, 2017
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Oh boy.
(this is the voice of claptrap and former VP of Gearbox)
He needs to be very, very clear if it's the whole thing.

Cause if it is, he would be just as bad as the lawyer for holding on to that information.

No better than Joe Paterno. You report that shit the instant you see it
 
Oct 25, 2017
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London
The defense force is strong here. compared to similar topics I'm surprised at how many people are defending this guy compared to other scenarios.
I at least am not defending him. But it's valid to ask what the evidence is. There isn't a victim claiming it; it's at best second-hand information.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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That tweet is too ambiguous to really need deletion. It's a vague confirmation of something. Probably confirms Pitchford is a piece of shit in at least 1 way.

Dude fell a long way since Brothers in Arms
 
Jun 7, 2018
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Unless they can produce the USB stick with child pornography on it, Pitchford can sue them for assassination of character. Accusation of pedophilia isn't something to take lightly and unless actual hard evidence is presented I'm going to reserve any judgement on Pitchford.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Proud to be one of the first Randy Pitchfork haters, even before BiA. OG hater. Don't doubt me.

Actually I had even worse personal experiences with several other Gearbox staff than I had with Randy. They seemed to be Randy's friends (although I have no idea if they were or if they've even been at Gearbox in the last 15 years...)
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,137
Ohio
The defense force is strong here. compared to similar topics I'm surprised at how many people are defending this guy compared to other scenarios.
I am inclined to believe the allegations. There is no defense force in explaining to people what evidence is and is not permissible in court.

This:

So calling out bullshit is defending him now? You claimed that a rumored USB is evidence. If the USB exists and the legal system can get a hold of it then it would count as evidence. I don't have a bone to pick in this fight except that we let due process carry out.

The attack force is here even stronger. Claiming that an alleged flash drive from 5 years ago that someone had heard contained child porn on it is solid evidence.

If the flash drive is real and has child porn on it then by all means fuck Randy Pitchford for being a piece of shit. But it is ridiculous that I get blasted as being "the defense force" for pointing out that this 'evidence' literally doesn't exist yet.
 
Jan 7, 2018
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The defense force is strong here. compared to similar topics I'm surprised at how many people are defending this guy compared to other scenarios.
So calling out bullshit is defending him now? You claimed that a rumored USB is evidence. If the USB exists and the legal system can get a hold of it then it would count as evidence. I don't have a bone to pick in this fight except that we let due process carry out.

The attack force is here even stronger. Claiming that an alleged flash drive from 5 years ago that someone had heard contained child porn on it is solid evidence.

If the flash drive is real and has child porn on it then by all means fuck Randy Pitchford for being a piece of shit. But it is ridiculous that I get blasted as being "the defense force" for pointing out that this 'evidence' literally doesn't exist yet.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Child porn is sickening but we need more proof, like why did the lawyer hold this to himself till it suited him? These kids might have needed help so there's no excuses for him holding it, and if it's because he wanted to keep his job, that just makes him a horrible person.

Let's hope it's not true, for those kids sake.
 

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Stop with the derails by attacking each other. Either discuss the topic at hand or leave the thread.
 
Jan 7, 2018
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It sounds like this USB stick isn't itself part of their evidence. Just what they've heard about what was allegedly on it.
You are correct. The guy I was responding to was claiming that the USB stick was enough evidence. The problem is that there is no USB stick in evidence and only word of mouth of it's existence and contents.

Ideally that should then be investigated and hopefully the USB stick (or contents) can be found, but right now there isn't actually evidence of any of it.
 
Dec 5, 2018
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It relates to the fact the guy is shady af.

It relates to the other accusations in the OP as he has a history of shady practices.

So yes, it does relate.
they are unrelated though. being shady when it comes to stealing has nothing to do with that, or making it more likely.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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That's honestly what my mind jumped to. It's probably best anyone in the industry doesn't use Twitter to be cryptic but contacts Jason or some other media outlets who can report in more detail with anonymity.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Child porn is sickening but we need more proof, like why did the lawyer hold this to himself till it suited him?
likely because, just like now, he has no first hand knowledge or proof. Why he’s choosing now to come out with it is probably because of the lawsuit Randy put against him.

He might be hoping that doing so will motivate people with first hand proof to come forward and confirm the details. Or, he might be doing it just to hurt Randy’s image further.

Hopefully Jason is talking to loads of people behind the scenes and we’ll get a clearer picture soon.

And it goes without saying, hopefully this isn’t true as sexual abuse of this nature is fucking disgusting.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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yeah why would you post that cryptic shit in this situation, morons.
Probably worrying about their career/reputation, but I have to say, if you're going to go to a public platform like Twitter, you best go strong. Going cryptic probably creates more mess.

Tbh the authorities are the first stop if you have information that could be useful, not Twitter.
 
Jan 7, 2018
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I had no idea what I was in for when I clicked this thread. Holy. Shit.
Generally disliked public figure accused of sexual misconduct combined with the ERA court of public opinion and cryptic tweets.

Honestly, this thread could be going a lot worse with that combination.
 
Jun 7, 2018
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likely because, just like now, he has no first hand knowledge or proof. Why he’s choosing now to come out with it is probably because of the lawsuit Randy put against him.

He might be hoping that doing so will motivate people with first hand proof to come forward and confirm the details. Or, he might be doing it just to hurt Randy’s image further.
But if there was no USB stick and the whole accusation is false, can't Randy just sue for slander and assassination of character? either the lawyer has strong proof hidden or is playing reckless.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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they are unrelated though. being shady when it comes to stealing has nothing to do with that, or making it more likely.
It is relevant, it's indicative of his character. It's highly likely he's up to more mischief as this and the Aliens controversy with the stolen art style paint a very clear history.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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But if there was no USB stick and the whole accusation is false, can't Randy just sue for slander and assassination of character? either the lawyer has strong proof hidden or is playing reckless.
The lawyers proof could simply be I heard it from other employees.

Which is partly why cryptic tweets right now from ex-employees are a bit mental.
 
Dec 5, 2018
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Yes it does, it's indicative of his character. It's highly likely he's up to more mischief as this and the Aliens controversy with the stolen art style paint a very clear history.
I'm sorry but having an history of being a theif and liar is not indictive of being into kids
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The $12 million sounds plausible after the Colonial Marines disaster but holy shit if dude had child pornography and people KNEW about but didn't say a word.
 

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either the lawyer has strong proof hidden or is playing reckless.
according to Jason in the OP, that accusation is hearsay at this point as the lawyer has no first hand knowledge or proof with his case

so unless the lawyer is keeping something under wraps, and if no one else can provide evidence, then Randy will likely sue for damages, yeah
 
Oct 25, 2017
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well shit, I figured Randy was slimely, but jesus if those allegations are true...holding off until there is some evidence, but that's a serious allegation to throw.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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He could say that, if he was sued for libel. But he'd have to say which ones, and they could be subpoenaed. It would be interesting.
Well, unless David Eddings wants to somehow clear up that tweet asap, he's kind of throwing himself into the mix by his own involvement.

That's hearsay and not proof tho, don't see how it can hold up in court or defend himself from slander suits.
It definitely won't hold up in court, but the lawyer probably knows well enough how hearing it from a 3rd party can be leveraged to clear himself from a slander suit.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Seattle
This thread is not only about that aspect, and astro is referring to the stealing 12 million dollars accusation.
I don’t see where it’s accusing him of stealing.

It says he negotiated a personal bonus and kept it secret. The rest is the lawyer accusing him of exploitation and maybe vaguely suggesting it’s fraudulent behavior because he told employees money was short.

But it says outright the publisher gave him a personal bonus. The lawyer twists this later to make it sound like it was somehow illegal.

I think it’s just Pitchford being a greedy asshole and unfortunately nothing illegal.