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Anti

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Nov 22, 2017
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It is not just the child pornography thing, the allegations about the parties like wtf, if any of this is true...
 

Marano

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Mar 30, 2018
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I wanna hear from people in the know here, we all know corruption is prevalent in all areas of life where there's money involved, politics, sports, media, etc.

Now how prevalent is it in the video game industry? We don't hear much about these things, so I guess bribery is used a lot? Or people in the industry are just better at covering it up with threats, etc.

What do you guys think?
 

Musubi

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've been screaming for years about how Randy Pitchford is a scumbag. This is unfortunately not surprising to me. There has always been something about him that just seemed off to me. Hopefully the trial will result in the truth coming out. I just hope nobody at Gearbox (except Randy) loses their jobs as a result of this lawsuit.
 

Mathieran

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Oct 25, 2017
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Randy Pitchford is pretty obviously a piece of shit but I will wait for some good evidence about the child porn before believing it.
 

Adamska

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Oct 27, 2017
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Completely terrible if truth, but this lawyer dude does seem to be throwing everything and the kitchen sink in this lawsuit, so it could be all bullshit.
I've been screaming for years about how Randy Pitchford is a scumbag. This is unfortunately not surprising to me. There has always been something about him that just seemed off to me. Hopefully the trial will result in the truth coming out. I just hope nobody at Gearbox (except Randy) loses their jobs as a result of this lawsuit.
But do you actually know anything?
 

L Thammy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Here I was ready to post his story about being on a steamboat with Gabe Newell and then child pornography suddenly comes up. What the fuck.
 

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The child pornography & the parties seems like the way bigger story here

We need to get this man the hell out of here
 

OldMuffin

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Nov 1, 2017
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If this turns on to be true.... dam. I use to look up to the guy back in the day... but slowly it became clear how greedy he was and now this.... this is the final nail in the coffin if this is true. My question is, would gearbox survive if these allegations are proven true? Is it possible to just kick Randy out and continue as normal? Well, as normal as you can after a sh*t show like this...
 

Fularu

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Oct 25, 2017
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If Schrier said it's hearsay, this is bound to lead to a countersuit for defamation
 

Jecht

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Oct 25, 2017
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Too many people here seem to think or imply that because he is accused in this lawsuit that it means that it is true with no doubts.

They are accusations at best right now, calm down.

Do you say this with any accusation made against predators or just right now because he's a prominent dev?
 

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Callender's most lurid allegation against Pitchford is an accusation surrounding an event that he says occurred in 2014. Callender says that Pitchford left a USB drive in a Dallas, Texas restaurant containing sensitive corporate documents for Gearbox and its partners including 2K Games, Sega, Sony, Microsoft, and others. Says the lawsuit: "Upon information and belief, Randy Pitchford's USB drive also contained Randy Pitchford's personal collection of 'underage' pornography."

Callender also accuses Pitchford of holding parties in which "adult men have reportedly exposed themselves to minors, to the amusement of Randy Pitchford."

Fucking hell those are some accusations all right.
 

Lowrys

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Oct 25, 2017
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Re. the porn, "on information and belief" means they almost certainly don't have any primary or first-hand evidence. That's my understanding as a lawyer. I could be wrong.
 

MMarston

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Oct 27, 2017
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Says the lawsuit: "Upon information and belief, Randy Pitchford's USB drive also contained Randy Pitchford's personal collection of 'underage' pornography."

Callender also accuses Pitchford of holding parties in which "adult men have reportedly exposed themselves to minors, to the amusement of Randy Pitchford."

Good fucking grief


This better be bullshit
 

Prolepro

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Nov 6, 2017
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Pitchford is a bit toss, as we all know.

I doubt the CP claim is legit, though.

If it is... boy, oh boy, we're in for a ride in 2019.
 

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Do you say this with any accusation made against predators or just right now because he's a prominent dev?

I'll say it's because this guy is getting sued by Gearbox for millions himself for misuse of corporate cards and such

When millions of dollars are on the line you go hard in the paint or you go home
 

LavaBadger

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Nov 14, 2017
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But wouldn't that make him complicit

It depends on the law around it, which I do not recall in regard to something like this specifically. But for example, if someone told you that they killed someone and this is where they buried the body, you're not supposed to say anything since no one is actually in any danger (Crime is already committed). If you said, "I have someone tied up in my basement," then yes, you're complicit if you don't do something because you're allowing harm to occur. But there are different standards for what is and is not considered active or premeditated harm depending on the sort of crime. This feels like a strange middle ground and I'd also question how much duty this lawyer has to Pitchford specifically.
 

BAD

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Oct 25, 2017
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Callender also accuses Pitchford of holding parties in which "adult men have reportedly exposed themselves to minors, to the amusement of Randy Pitchford."

This seems easy to prove and I suspect we will hear about it soon if so
 

Qwark

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Oct 27, 2017
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Oh wow... I was never a fan of Pitchford, but this is insane if true.

I'll wait for more details before passing judgment.
 

Vire

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's almost too much...

He stole millions of dollars, looks at child porn and holds secret society parties where they expose themselves to minors?

I really don't buy it, or don't want to at least. Lawyer sounds deseperate.
 

Thardin

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Do you say this with any accusation made against predators or just right now because he's a prominent dev?

This question seems a little loaded. Do you bring this point up anytime someone mentions waiting for evidence or only when people have preconceived opinions about the accused?

I would hope this applies to every situation, but regardless, it is still a good suggestion to wait for further evidence before immediately believing every accusation. We shouldn't assume accusations are immediately true just because he is a prominent dev either.
 

KillLaCam

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Everyone is a pedo
 

Auctopus

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This forum has no moral standpoint in taking the high ground on a child pornography accusation.
 
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Can't Pitchford counter sue for Libel? Those are EXTREME accusations to make without having hard evidence (not implying that the prosecution doesn't have strong evidence). I assume the FBI would need to get involved to investigate the CP accusations?
 

Jecht

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Oct 25, 2017
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This question seems a little loaded. Do you bring this point up anytime someone mentions waiting for evidence or only when people have preconceived opinions about the accused?

I would hope this applies to every situation, but regardless, it is still a good suggestion to wait for further evidence before immediately believing every accusation.

I tend to take any accusation of sexual misconduct seriously regardless of who is being accused, yes.

I'll say it's because this guy is getting sued by Gearbox for millions himself for misuse of corporate cards and such

When millions of dollars are on the line you go hard in the paint or you go home

Maybe. But theres no reason to fabricate these particular allegations when you have the $12mil one.
 

Quad Lasers

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Oct 26, 2017
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Do you say this with any accusation made against predators or just right now because he's a prominent dev?

The accusation in this instance is originating from a lawyer who got sued first for allegedly running up massive bills for personal expenses on company credit.

There's no real way to sift through this at the moment.
 

Mr.LightMan

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can see the money thing being real but the child porn, damn. I'll wait and see what happens but gee that's tough.
 

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Nov 7, 2017
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Continuous blind-eye turning towards concerning posts and the defense of "ephebophilic" tendencies of some users, actually.
Most of those threads turn in to a honeypot where people defending the sexualization or rationalization of that get permed.