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[Kotaku] Many big games now have two release dates, and the earlier one will cost you
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EA Access is not just Early Access. How many people have EA Access just to play the libary of ea games? I don't pay to play AC:O earlier, i pay to save 10 bucks. Of course there are gamer who pay more to get a game early. A Shop in my town get the games 3-7 days earlier, but take 5 bucks more. Anyway, not all pay to play earlier.
True, but in the case of Assassin's Creed Odyssey i know exactly what i get. There was a Video about the Content, the 2 Chapters and the Remaster of Assassin's Creed 3.
What examples do you have of it always being more expensive? All editions were available to purchase for everyone on Tuesday or Friday.
It's a price increase for normal release date and a delay for the normal price.
If you're anything like me and have ten-mile-long backlogs, and don't get around to playing games until years after they release...
...if the fact that a few people choose to spend more to play early means that the price drops a few months after release for me, I'm perfectly okay with it.
I really don't see a problem. It's not like mobile, where F2P games are free for most people only because it's on the backs of addicted players that spend themselves into oblivion.
...if the fact that a few people choose to spend more to play early means that the price drops a few months after release for me, I'm perfectly okay with it.
I really don't see a problem. It's not like mobile, where F2P games are free for most people only because it's on the backs of addicted players that spend themselves into oblivion.
I have paid extra money for broken street date copies of games I really want. And it was worth it. I got to play Horizon two weeks before zelda, gave me all the time I needed to enjoy it, then suck all time into zelda. So if they are basically removing street dates then fine I am in, offer it weeks in advance to make it worth it. Why the hell do these games have to sit in stores for a week.
Video game publishers don't make enough money and they need to make more money. Stop being selfish!
This is basically what other kinds of industries do, in economics its called minimizing "Consumer Surplus" (if a customer would have spent $90 for a game, paying $60 loses you money on that sale).
Books have Hard cover and then soft cover (though much longer time period), movies move down the classic tier of options and prices over time etc.
I also hate it too in terms of games.
Books have Hard cover and then soft cover (though much longer time period), movies move down the classic tier of options and prices over time etc.
I also hate it too in terms of games.
I've always gotten the Ultimate Forza Horizon editions for the extra content (there's always plenty!), and the early release is just a bonus. I'm not liking how condescending the majority of posts in here are.
Yes it did. And because I don't care about the other incentives I didn't go for it. They reduced VC exploitation ever so slightly yet make up the difference in other ways like that.
For other games, if there's a season pass at a slight discount I'm likely interested anyway, so I would go for that. But when you are as greedy as Take Two, nah, that's too far for me.
I dont like it because I would like to have the game same time as everyone else so people dont finish faster and spoil for me.
You can pre-order earliar (and I did mention that advertising the cheaper price later was a new thing and designed to not lose the people who aren't willing to go over £60) but you want it easrlier you pay more, you want the cheaper, you wait. And stop saying "normal" price - a product price staying the same for 10 years with this inflation rate is not normal. The alternative to this is just the higher price and you don't know exactly when it goes down. That doesn't benefit the consumer or the publisher. It's basically a stealth price increase. Except they make it clear for those that don't have the money or don't want to pay more when it comes out at that price point.
Who cares? Seriously? Who cares about this?
Also... who cares what other people do with their money?
If somebody wants to pay for stuff like this than let them.
But it's funny that you almost always get stuff like the season pass and other dlc shenanigans with it but that never gets mentioned. It's alway just "UH PAY FOR EARLY ACCESS!"
Also... who cares what other people do with their money?
If somebody wants to pay for stuff like this than let them.
But it's funny that you almost always get stuff like the season pass and other dlc shenanigans with it but that never gets mentioned. It's alway just "UH PAY FOR EARLY ACCESS!"
That's literally just a price increase which these games are overdue - the only difference is they would be telling you when the game price will go down. The game price currently goes down after launch quite drastically, you can get some games 50% off after a month. This is just this effect advertised.
So this isn't how it's always been then.
Why wouldn't I keep calling it the normal price? It's the standard price for the vast majority of video games. You have no idea if these delays are the only alternative to a price increase or just publishers capitalizing on the fervor over AAA releases. Or any other number of reasons.
Sounds like Kotaku listened to the Easy Allies podcast this past week. Michael Huber went over all of these in the beginning segment and it was blowing my mind how widespread it had become.
I really don't care about it that much, as long as it stays between 2 - 4 days.
I bought the Forza Horizon 4 Ultimate Edition, but I don't really care that much about the early access. It's nice, but I bought the ultimate for the expansions and the cars.
I bought the Forza Horizon 4 Ultimate Edition, but I don't really care that much about the early access. It's nice, but I bought the ultimate for the expansions and the cars.
the problem is, they market the ultimate edition behind the early access and as the main selling point which it shouldn't be.
Look at this title on the xbox store 2 years ago for FH3
Why can't they just make it early access for all those who pre-order?
Look at the sales for NBA 2k18 and it tells you why, the $99 edition of 2k19 was sold MORE than the standard edition digitally on xbox and I can tell you it wasn't because of the miniscule 100k VC when people buy loads of that shit anyways. It was because of the early access and the ability to play on the friday before. This NEVER happened before because it was always just a pre-order was needed for early access and nothing more. Funny how tacking that in, in the highest paid edition works. Pretty sure the same thing happened with state of decay as well. While there are a good amount of fans who buy the super editions for the content, season pass and what not. That is not what is being used to bait and market them.
The history of video game releases usually has had a price increase by now which hasn't happened - largely cus they are trying to get the costs back in other ways. "Early Access" Special Editions/Services are one of them. You can't complain that it's not following the history of video game releases and isn't "normal", when the normal thing would be that the games are £90 according to some estimates.
In the case of games where I was going to buy whatever expensive edition regardless, it doesn't bother me. In the case of games that are trying to incentivize me to buy an expensive edition solely for a moved up release date? Fuck that noise, keep it chief. I can wait.
A surprisingly high number of folks in various Forza Horizon 4 threads have quite openly — and happily — said that they have preordered the 'ultimate edition', and I find this both laughable and frustrating to see.
A fool and their money and all that.
I am glad that Sony and Nintendo do not feel the need to go down this greedy path...
The only deluxe/expensive editions I've bought this generation were Dying Light and Spider-Man and that was for content not release date. I told my father this year he didn't have to buy Forza if he got Gamepass. But he said he wanted all the extras and to play sooner so he actually bought the ultimate version which surprised me. So this stuff is really working.
This is just publishers punishing those pre-ordering their game at all if they don't go for the more or most expensive versions of the game. Rather than reward anybody that buys your game before launch, you tell them they could play it sooner if they spend $20, $40, or even $60 more for the game.
MLB The Show 18 bucked this trend by letting anybody that pre-ordered it play it the Friday before launch.
MLB The Show 18 bucked this trend by letting anybody that pre-ordered it play it the Friday before launch.
Video games held their prices hovering around 50 bucks fluctuating under and over for 20 -15 years. $60 hasn't been that long.
Publishers saw all those DAY 0 posts and took it a bit further.
I don't agree at all that publishers are using early access as the main selling point. That article proves nothing. Yes, it is a selling point which they are advertising. No, people aren't buying a $100 edition of a game just to play it 4 days early.
The NBA 2K thing looks like it comes with a bunch of shit. The "minuscule" 100k of VC looks to be like $25 worth. What proof do you have that people are buying it just to play it early and not for the bunch of other stuff it comes with?
As a bonus, here's a chart from FH4 that is equally as tenuous as the article you linked to which shows the early access being dead last in the list of selling point.
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If the "early" release date wasn't the main draw, I wonder why publishers don't just release the standard edition on the same day as these meaty special editions then? I mean if just the goodies are worth it it should be fine right?
Yes I'm sure the only reason they are happy about pre ordering the ultimate edition is because of that 4 day early access. That's all anyone gets it for not the all the extra content just that early access
Around 50 bucks was for 5th and 6th gens, so approx. 1995-2005, 10 years. (4th gen and earlier cost a lot more, especially SNES games, due to cart prices. N64 games still costed over $50 some times again due to cart prices.)
I'm pretty sure 360 launch games were $60. That was 13 years ago.
eaxctly, if the ultimate editions offer that much value and won't hurt sales............how much would it hurt to release it for everyone who pre-ordered.
WAIT, we all know exactly why
I kind of like that a lot of editions are releasing on friday. I always hated tuesday releases, gimme that long weekend.
I mean I can just wait few days to buy the game cheaper, hell I don't buy many games at launch, so if people want to buy early access, that's on them.
It is mind boggling that so many people in this thread are defending this practice.
People do realize that if publishers see this as effective, they are going to push it further like they have done with everything else, right?
What is your apologist limit? Getting the game a week early for $100? A month?
People do realize that if publishers see this as effective, they are going to push it further like they have done with everything else, right?
What is your apologist limit? Getting the game a week early for $100? A month?
It's truly unfortunate, but the only way to stop the capitalistic pig publishers from continuing to extort customers is to simply show some restraint and not buy into this crap.
This isn't a new thing though. The $80-100 premium editions has been a thing since last gen the only difference is now they add "get it a few days early" on it now and frankly i am fine with that. If someone is willing to go out and spend that much money on it why not get it early? People like to say they would pay $100 to get X or Y game early all the time on this thread and on twitter. Especially when the new AAA game threads get made a week before release and people show off the game they got early from a shop.
Personally, i have been buying the Forza games, Madden, Fifa, most Ubi games etc. $80-100 editions since they started, long before the "get it x days early edition" started because i want all the DLC etc associated with it. If it means i can now get them a few days earlier i see it as an extra perk. Excersize patience if you want the $60 edition. I almost always buy the deluxe/premium so it's just extra icing on the cake.
Personally, i have been buying the Forza games, Madden, Fifa, most Ubi games etc. $80-100 editions since they started, long before the "get it x days early edition" started because i want all the DLC etc associated with it. If it means i can now get them a few days earlier i see it as an extra perk. Excersize patience if you want the $60 edition. I almost always buy the deluxe/premium so it's just extra icing on the cake.
It is a draw, not the main draw.
Pubs saw success with the ultimate edition concept. They thought "how can we get more people to buy the expensive version", and then they came up with this.
No one is buying these things just to get the game 4 days early. People are buying them because either A) they would have bought it without the early access anyways or B) the early access crosses their tipping point for buying the ultimate edition over the standard edtion, along with the other stuff. It's artificially adding value (not $40 worth, by any means) to your product.
With Shadow of Tomb Raider it was tempting because everyone in the OT was playing, but there are so many other games to play.
The industry just has a way of being shitty when it comes to exploiting people's weaknesses. Like have some fucking dignity.
Oh it's most definitely a draw, especially on a forum like this where everyone feeds on each other's excitement. I have absolutely zero interest in the deluxe edition of games like SoTR and I was really tempted to get it just to play it early. I can definitely see people not having the self control.
The industry just has a way of being shitty when it comes to exploiting people's weaknesses. Like have some fucking dignity.
Oh it's most definitely a draw, especially on a forum like this where everyone feeds on each other's excitement. I have absolutely zero interest in the deluxe edition of games like SoTR and I was really tempted to get it just to play it early. I can definitely see people not having the self control.
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I disagree, I absolutely think it's the main draw, we see evidence in hype threads frequently, I know casual gamers who just get COD and NBA2K every year who absolutely fall into this trap, partly because the marketing completely ignores the standard release anyway.